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It always was, which is why it won't really be a thing until most of the players have caught up and there is enough market penetration, which is why one shouldn't make the decision today based heavily on raytracing (unless your really gun ho about having a limited library) but rather on all the factors. Your free to spend how you like, but people come to forums like this creeping for advice but never engaging, it does them no good to have fans pushing marketing material rather than being realistic.
And it's the year of the Linux desktop (again)!
Hey, it makes a huge increase in shadow quality in WoW! Instead of an oval blur, you get a well-defined shadow of your character.
The exciting part is being better than everyone else, and attracting the opposite sex by being better than everyone else. And that is worth every cent. Because women are weird like that: they value you according to how you value yourself, and your GPU.
Lmctf to be exact.... that grapple with the railgun.... woo-hoo frag fest central
Nvidia wants to keep prices high but knows they can't unless they trick people into paying more. I'm sure somewhere in Nvidia's offices are employee's screaming ENTITLED GAMERS like they have tourettes syndrome.
Yeah if they released the 4090 tomorrow and had good supply I'd imagine other than the first batch being scalped by the usual suspects, you would pretty easily be able to score one near msrp.
You have to keep in mind that $200 in 2005 was worth a lot more than it is today. And, in 2005, the 7800 GTX was $600. In today's sheckles, that works out to about $865 which is above the theoretical 3080 MSRP that no one was able to get.
They will easily maintain high prices if they release good cards that make a lot of profit for cryptocurrency mining, but considering the state of the world and the consumption of electricity, ecology and other things, somehow I think it won't be like that this time.
You're right - the progress of chip manufacturing over the last few decades has gotten much better and much more efficient. Prices today should be cheaper.
Agreed!
if we compare a gpu of yesteryear to one with cuda cores + tensor cores + video encode there's more than just "that model's number is more than that one" to considerYet here we have the CEO telling us what's up. Lol.
People don't buy things based on inflation. The majority of gamers on Steam do not use a RTX 3080, or a 3070, or even a 3060. They're using 1060's, 1650's, 1050 Ti's, and 2060's, in that order. This is because the price gap is too large and the performance difference is too big. When Nvidia released the GTX 970 for $330, it sold like crazy, and that's because the GTX 980 was only 10% faster, plus the GTX 970 can play games at 1080p. Then Nvidia released Turing with Ray-Tracing with no actual performance increase. Then Nvidia released Ampere with a performance increase but prices went to the moon due to crypto. The RTX 3060 has nearly the same performance as the 2060, but also has massive price increase, which these cards would be what the majority of gamers would buy. Right now a RTX 2060 is less than $300 new off Amazon. The RTX 3060 is over $400 new on Amazon. The RTX 3060 Ti which would be a clear upgrade from a RTX 2060, is nearly $500.
In 2005 the price of GPU's were stupid and that pushed people to buy an Xbox 360. Especially by 2007 when the GeForce 8800 GTX was $570 while the GTS was $380. Was it ever a wonder why the meme "But can it run Crisis" was being thrown around? Plenty of GPU's could run the game but not many of them were affordable. I had a Radeon X1950 GT and it run Crisis just fine, but not many people wanted to buy an ATI product.
Not really, because both have had 6 years apart but 6 years later from the 470's and 480's release the GTX 970 was #1, which made sense. Six years later from the GTX 1060's release and it's still #1. It wasn't just recently #1 either, as you can go as far back as 2018 and see that it's been #1. Nvidia fucked up hard because they're pushing higher prices and catering to crypto miners. Nvidia's stock deserve to hit the ground.
No Kepler's in 2016, just Maxwell. GTX 970 was #1 in 2015. You see Kepler's in 2014 and Intel dominated twice in that year, but by this time it would be 2 years old. So after 3 years of launch, the Kepler cards were quickly replaced by Maxwell.
I really doubt that running a RTX 3060 would be hard to do.
If the 4060 was $300 and the 2050 was $250 then it'll sell fast. I can't even find RTX 3060's for $300 new, and the RTX 3050 is just barely $300 new. Nvidia has been disconnected from their customers for 6 years, and you expect them to get it now? You're more likely to see Nvidia sell a limited edition Jensen Huang leather jacket.
My point was $600($860 adjusted) high-end cards existed, then.
Again, it's sad if someone would accept a console controller. ...for anything other than racing games, or a lack of any other option to play a favorite title. But mobile phone games are a thing, so some people will accept anything, I guess.
Oh they f'd sooo hard... lol Their stock is only worth 20x what it was in 2016 when they lost contact wiff gamer buddies.
But a 3080 or 3090 would require some contemplation for sure.
Yea and nobody bought them then either.
And also true. That was a terrible time for PC gaming. It's technically true now as Sony just raised prices because they know people are flocking to the PS5. It's not like JoeSixPack is aware of GPU prices dropping when he tried to upgrade during the pandemic.
Mobile gaming is popular because most people in the world are broke as shit.
Lets talk about their stock, because it looks like a crypto roller coaster. Remember there was a crypto boom in 2016 which then ended in 2018 with a crash. They went from $67 a share to $33 right after the crypto crash of 2018. Luckily for Nvidia the pandemic soon started and with people stuck at home and crypto exploding, their stock was worth $315. It's currently worth $162 and this isn't even their final stock market form. Their stock will crash so hard that they'll be begging to suck gamer dick. It'll crash harder than BBBY did for the idiots at Wallstreetbets.
Yea you gotta explain to your wifes boyfriend how you spent $700 on a RTX 3080 to play Minecraft. Also just before Nvidia releases the RTX 4080.
I'm broke, but mobile phone gaming has never appealed past 2.5 minutes, mostly because of the controls and size of the screen. I bet my 2018 "smart" phone has a better GPU than my laptop, which is what I'm using right now, until it cools off and I can justify firing up the desktop. It feels weird to have the AC going while I have what amounts to a little space heater going at the same time.
Um, I don't really see that happening. But if I could see what what going to happen, I might've bought a bunch of Domino's Pizza stock.
