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I know you're answering jobert, and yes, the problem in this image is very similar to mine, still, this very problem happens on other games, made by other developers (such as rdr2 and cod mw). So the problem is not with this specific game, maybe it's some sort of technology that all of them use, but it is not related exclusively to Marvel's Avengers.
Your best is not even close to reality
They have always been able to use the monitor itself just not freesync of course. But many if not most current freesync monitors are "gsync compatible" .
They can only use Freesync VRR thru Displayport. Officially there's a compatibility list but in practice it usually just works.
Yeah, FreeSync won (even though Nvidia will never admit to it).
Wouldn't 1920x1080 on 32" screen look exactly the same as 1920x1080 on say 23" screen?
I'll try putting GTA on 4k, still, I used to have a 32" 720p TV as my monitor for a few time, and this kind of problem didn't occur. The only problem that I had back in that day was blurry textures, but no grid-like shadows and hairYour best is not even close to reality
There is no such thing as 6-bit setting and even if by some miracle GPU sent 6-bit instead of 8/10 bit it would cause entirely different issue. With 6-bit + A-FRC (or just 'dithering') image would look identical to 8 or 10-bit albeit with imperceptible noise.
Not to mention screenshots would not capture any of the differences in how GPU send data to monitor, dooh
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You got 31.5" monitor that is 1920x1080 so you will see some rendering quirks. Games use trickery to fake certain computationally expensive effects and when you start pixel peeping (which is very easy in this case...) you will notice these things.
What would definitely solve your issue is to use DSR and render game at 3840x2160 but of course that is not possible with these games on your GPU with sensible performance. Alternatively you can try just slightly bigger resolution like smaller DSR factor and tweak sharpness until most of the pixelated patterns disappear. The bigger rendering resolution the better the effect will be - this would be the brute force solution.
I am not sure how these game should look or if there is any option to mitigate this rendering quirk so it might just be how the game renders. A lot of games have this, but some of them just hide it eg. Doom 2016 without AA has these dot patterns allover the place.
Definitely do not use any form of artificial sharpening in your GPU drivers or in game. Rather try different AA method in game. TAA should help if it is available, though it will blur image somewhat - and if it does using sharpening is not a solution: it never is.
Otherwise because you have large screen and relatively low resolution for a computer monitor you could sit further away from it. This is not really proper solution but might help.
I don't think GTA V has TAA but I'll look into it anyways. I know Marvel's Avengers had it but, as I said on a post before, I played it on a Steam free weekend. My control panel already have these settings, so I guess my only bet is hoping that games that have this problem also have TAA on their options menu haha. Anyways, thanks for trying to help.
I've been avoiding reinstalling all drivers, but I guess that's the only option I have left. I can take pictures of the screen with my phone, but all the problems I see are also shown on the screenshots, so I guess the problem is not exclusively with the GPU or monitor, but with their interaction.
I guess games should look blurry, not full of gridsWouldn't 1920x1080 on 32" screen look exactly the same as 1920x1080 on say 23" screen?
not really... the DPI of the 32" is lower so pixelation will be more noticeableWouldn't 1920x1080 on 32" screen look exactly the same as 1920x1080 on say 23" screen?
Not if you correct your sitting distance so that both screens take the same amount of field of view.
Actually not so much blurry but aliasedI guess games should look blurry, not full of grids
Well this was with two EVGA 1080Ti's in SLI, Pascal initially did not support 10bit with their gaming cards, only the professional cards. Later they supported it but you had to manually select it.Your best is not even close to reality
There is no such thing as 6-bit setting and even if by some miracle GPU sent 6-bit instead of 8/10 bit it would cause entirely different issue. With 6-bit + A-FRC (or just 'dithering') image would look identical to 8 or 10-bit albeit with imperceptible noise.
Not to mention screenshots would not capture any of the differences in how GPU send data to monitor, dooh
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im_shadows
You got 31.5" monitor that is 1920x1080 so you will see some rendering quirks. Games use trickery to fake certain computationally expensive effects and when you start pixel peeping (which is very easy in this case...) you will notice these things.
What would definitely solve your issue is to use DSR and render game at 3840x2160 but of course that is not possible with these games on your GPU with sensible performance. Alternatively you can try just slightly bigger resolution like smaller DSR factor and tweak sharpness until most of the pixelated patterns disappear. The bigger rendering resolution the better the effect will be - this would be the brute force solution.
I am not sure how these game should look or if there is any option to mitigate this rendering quirk so it might just be how the game renders. A lot of games have this, but some of them just hide it eg. Doom 2016 without AA has these dot patterns allover the place.
Definitely do not use any form of artificial sharpening in your GPU drivers or in game. Rather try different AA method in game. TAA should help if it is available, though it will blur image somewhat - and if it does using sharpening is not a solution: it never is.
Otherwise because you have large screen and relatively low resolution for a computer monitor you could sit further away from it. This is not really proper solution but might help.
Used DSR to upscale GTAV to 1440p and 4k. The corners were much sharper, and the game a lot more beautiful. Still, the grids were present. In GTA that's almost imperceptible (regardless of the resolution), I can only notice on Michael's house, but on some games it becomes almost unplayable.Not if you correct your sitting distance so that both screens take the same amount of field of view.
Also not so much if you already see everything there is to see on the screen super clearly, though I suspect some people might be more bothered when stuff in their field of view is actually bigger vs. smaller... kinda like very small tiger is just a cat
Actually not so much blurry but aliased
Rendering works by sampling points and if you sample as much points as pixels on the screen you get aliasing. If you sample more points on the edges to smooth them they won't appear blurry but more defined and this is called Anti-Aliasing. At some point in time games used this technique and it was called MultiSampling Anti-Aliasing or MSAA in short. Another method is SuperSampling Anti Aliasing or SSAA and it is pretty much rendering everything at higher resolution and scaling it down and is what you can use with DSR (Nvidia's Digital Super Resolution).
More modern AA techniques use post-processing filters to fake anti-aliasing so MLAA, FXAA, SMAA, etc. all work on fully rendered image and try to detect some patterns which look like aliasing and smooth them out in clever ways. They do work miracles but do make image blurry. TAA is Temporal Anti-Aliasing and it also uses information from previous frames and various other tricks and it works but blurs image even more.
Most of AA methods work quite well on original aliasing problem but not so much when it comes to aliasing and other artifacts caused by shader programs. So if your game uses shader to fake texture of beard by creating checkerboard pattern then most AA methods will struggle smootching it out.
Now what we always want is how game looks with tons of SSAA so for example if you have 1920x1080p screen you would be satisfied with how game looks eg. rendered in 7680x4320 (literally "8K") and down-scaled to 1080p. This is what all anti-aliasing methods try to fake. IF you did that all your jaggies, aliases, checkerboards, etc. would be nicely smoothed out but in a way that would not produce any blur whatsoever, just higher definition image. Obviously this is not gonna happen on GTX 1070
...so you need to fiddle with settings. Maybe rendering game at slightly higher resolution + other AA method will give good results.
The thing with these modern AA method which blur image is that once you add supersampling (which you can do using Nvidia DSR to enable higher than native resolutions) all the blur they add gets hidden. So even though eg. FXAA or TAA add considerable amount of blur these AA method should be enabled when using DSR because you won't see additional blur they cause and they will help to eliminate some aliasing.
Maybe rendering at 2560x1440 would work with good enough framerate so it could be usable?
Imho worth trying out. Also if you use DSR you have slider for "smoothness" so you can fiddle with that, though I do not recommend setting it do zero because that only works good for the so called "4.00x", in which case on 1920x1080 screen you would render game at 3840x2160, 4x the amount of pixels... which is not gonna happen on 1070 I am affraid... or you can actually check how it will run and look
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