Nvidia 4060 dual overclock vs. Nvidia 4070 TUF overclock (friend is trying to convince me the 4060 is faster)

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Need a video card for my build and after 16 years being out of the computer building game, i have no clue. specs are better on the giant 4070 overclock. However my friend says the 4060 dual overclock with 16g of memory will run over the 4070.

What say the masses?
 
I have both 4060 ti and a 4070, I can assure you the 4060 it does not win.

Get a better class of friends
 
I think the title could be a bit misleading, not saying that it is "faster" but that 16GB > 12GB will make it play game better and in some case faster because of the big lack of vram hit.
 
Go for an amd gpu, 16gb on a 4060 is stupid and means practically nothing for games, you won't get anything because the gpu is too weak.
Buy amd RX 7900 GRE if you have a strong enough power supply.
 
The 16 gig doesn't do much. It's barely faster than the 8 gig variant. That narrow bus gimps it.

Also, OP didn't mention monitor resolution. The 4060's are billed as 1080 cards for gaming. The only real advantage for the 16 gig is mostly for AI workloads, large language models.
 
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I feel that >real lovelace" start around the 4070 (4060 and 4060ti does not have the full "feature" benefit nor the pure raster at the same time, the 16gig version put it in a non-sensical price range)

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Would look for what the 6800 situation look like or the 7900GRE first.
 
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BADS197 said:
Need a video card for my build and after 16 years being out of the computer building game, i have no clue. specs are better on the giant 4070 overclock. However my friend says the 4060 dual overclock with 16g of memory will run over the 4070.

What say the masses?
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The 16GB can help in a few games, but the 4070 is a good card. Make sure to get the one with GDDR6X, as they are about to release a version with a bit slower memory.

The 4070 will be faster. His point is that games need more ram. This is a fairly short list of games that if you run at 4k resolution and Ultra texture quality settings, the 12GB might become a constraint. Really, only the 8GB cards have been shown to hit that constraint. 4070 has 12GB. Someday those will hit it as well. You just turn the texture quality down to High and it's fine.
If you can afford it get a 4080, as it will last many years.
 
DogsofJune said:
The 16 gig doesn't do much. It's barely faster than the 8 gig variant. That narrow bus gimps it.

Also, OP didn't mention monitor resolution. The 4060's are billed as 1080 cards for gaming. The only real advantage for the 16 gig is mostly for AI workloads, large language models.
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I have a lenovo gaming monitor and the refresh rate i think it 120... i really need to upgrade it.

I have to say I game currently at 1440 for the time being.. dont want to replace the monitor right away... perhaps in the near future.

I currently play in a Legion I7 xxx laptop and after a few updates some of the games i have from steam, at the same resolution they are now jumpy at times and running into a room with 5 or 6 guys in it and the ensueing firefight is jumpy and often times results in me dead. no more dead... hahahahah
 
Nice. So the GDDR6X was overkill for 4070's and likely 4060's too. Hope that GN and HUB also do this comparison, I trust their results.

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The 20 Gbps GDDR6 memory option, just in numerical terms, presents a 4.75% drop in memory bandwidth over the 21 Gbps GDDR6X..
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Yeah 1% difference I think is expected, as memory bandwidth, as long as it is not a bottleneck, historically shows only small differences in graphics performance.

And to think 5090 will have GDDR7. Memory bandwidth will not be a constraint unless the chip is an absolute monster.

So to OP: Even a 4070 should be good to go.
 
GoodBoy said:
Nice. So the GDDR6X was overkill for 4070's and likely 4060's too. Hope that GN and HUB also do this comparison, I trust their results.


Yeah 1% difference I think is expected, as memory bandwidth, as long as it is not a bottleneck, historically shows only small differences in graphics performance.

And to think 5090 will have GDDR7. Memory bandwidth will not be a constraint unless the chip is an absolute monster.

So to OP: Even a 4070 should be good to go.
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Thanks for the replies folks..

Video cards were always confusing.. soooooo many choices and companies and models and configurations.

I was never on the bleeding edge of video cards like a few friends I had so long ago, but this time around i want something that will last me for a few years. I'm trying to stay away from the monthly upgrade madness like I was used to so many years ago.
 
BADS197 said:
Thanks for the replies folks..

Video cards were always confusing.. soooooo many choices and companies and models and configurations.

I was never on the bleeding edge of video cards like a few friends I had so long ago, but this time around i want something that will last me for a few years. I'm trying to stay away from the monthly upgrade madness like I was used to so many years ago.
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The 4070 will serve you well then at 1440p :).
 
pendragon1 said:
did your friend eat paint chips as a child? no.
welcome to [H] btw.
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haha.. yea i'm not sure all of his reasoning behind it. maybe its the memory on the card or the hype when the card came out.

i'm leaning toward the ASUS TUF Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 OC Edition HDMI 3 x DP GDDR6X 12GB at this moment. If I hit the lottery this week I'll go ahead and order the 5xxx when it comes out.
 
There is no situation on heaven, hell, or earth, No circumstance in any measure with any amount of good faith, on any timeline at any handicap, There is no resolution, setting, load, bottleneck or otherwise... Not a signle absurd scenario wherein a 4060 Ti 16GB would be faster than a 4070
 
4070 SUPER or better yet - get a used 7900 XT. They're around $550 and they are a top 6 GPU (at all resolutions) in terms of performance (source: TPU).

The 4060 series is pretty junky. Although I use a 4060 Ti 8GB for my Plex server. Great for that! :cool:
 
sk3tch said:
4070 SUPER or better yet - get a used 7900 XT. They're around $550 and they are a top 6 GPU (at all resolutions) in terms of performance (source: TPU).

The 4060 series is pretty junky. Although I use a 4060 Ti 8GB for my Plex server. Great for that! :cool:
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I purchased the ASUS Nvidia 4070 TUF 12 GB OC Edition last night and it shipped this morning.
 
4060 has one purpose. Low profile SFF systems. Otherwise it’s not good value.

I have a SFF with one, and it’s great, but really it’s only as good as it can be since the 4060 Isn’t that great. Makes a monster SFF though and will do 4K on a lot of titles
 
matt167 said:
4060 has one purpose. Low profile SFF systems. Otherwise it’s not good value.

I have a SFF with one, and it’s great, but really it’s only as good as it can be since the 4060 Isn’t that great. Makes a monster SFF though and will do 4K on a lot of titles
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Indeed. Laptop GPU in PCIe form factor.

BTW - they are FANTASTIC gaming laptop GPUs. I made the mistake of going 4080/4090 mobile earlier in the gen. I realized that the 4060 was the bang/buck king shortly thereafter. Super cool and great performance esp wtih DLSS/etc.
 
RTX 3060 Ti GPU Name GA104, they let it pull 200W and the Founders Edition did pull 200 on Techpowerup for gaming. RTX 4070 GPU Name AD104 performs much better as the price also increased, it basically also uses 190 or 200W when needed. If they had capped it at 150W it would have gotten a worse reception for sure.

4060 Ti sips power it has the AD106 GPU but they didn't cut the price enough. 152W or close to it. Better name for consumers is RTX 4060 and the 115W, 3072 CUDA junior GPU is 4050. The GA106 is the brains of the GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB that sold so well.
 
DogsofJune said:
Ati 7900 gre? What century are you from? AMD acquired Ati back in 2006.
And didn't someone already say stfu?
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Amd should return the Ati name and sell the graphics department to someone else.I miss ati.They had HBM, but they obviously threatened them not to endanger nvidia.
 
again, stfu. you dont know what the fuck youre talking about, and the "youre a shill" bullshit is getting old.
 
If you're in the US, only 3 GPUs make sense right now 4070S around the $500-550 mark, 4080S around the $800-850 mark and 4090 around the $1200-1300. These are used prices available through retailers regularly and online on forums like this and reddit hsw. Anything else is a waste of money (no NV fan boy here but AMD is lacking too much on features currently to recommend their cards...). Though if you are going absolute low end there are used 4060 8 Gb cards for $230 ish on best buy right now.GL.
 
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