NSA Planned to Hijack Google App Store

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Like most of you, I just assumed that the NSA was already doing this. Bonus points for codenaming the top secret project IRRITANT HORN.

The National Security Agency and its closest allies planned to hijack data links to Google and Samsung app stores to infect smartphones with spyware, a top-secret document reveals.
 

lcpiper

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Damned government computers and their blocked websites.

I can't get to the article.
 

panhead

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Plenty of money to spy on the world
No money to fix crumbling road, bridges, power grid, water mains, etc :mad:
 

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I would like to see the person in the NSA who OK'd this and everyone above him be systematically fired and never be allowed to get another government job ever again.

yeah keep dreaming.
 

Zarathustra[H]

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I think it's just time to completely shut down the NSA and CIA.

They shouldn't be allowed to exist anymore.

They do more harm than good.
 

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I would love to see Google sue the NSA and win.

Google can't win a Law Suite against a Federal Agency performing their due and proper mission.

First off, this report covers two separate topics, the first was a classified document that said the NSA and it's counterparts were "planning", or they were "evaluating", doesn't say anything about actually doing, specifically the article states "While it’s unclear what became of the app store hijacking plan ...."

Second, is the UC Browser vulnerability,
"UC Browser, owned by the powerful Chinese tech giant Alibaba Group. It is the world's most popular mobile browser behind those pre-installed on smartphones."
the UC Browser app leaked its users' phone numbers, SIM card numbers and details about the device to servers in China.
In that stream of data, Five Eyes analysts found one country's military unit using the app as a covert way to communicate about its operations in Western countries.

China and India are far from close Allies and in China's case, they are more adversary then friend. If this Browser, which is 3rd party and not installed as part of the phone's default apps, has a hole in it that is reporting detailed info to the servers in China, I would think it's more by design then mistake, it is China for Christ's sake.

Now these reporters want to spin all this to make it sound like they put our own Citizen's at risk with this and it's just not true, their article makes that clear even though you have to pay attention to see it. This is what our Intelligence Agencies are supposed to be doing and this is an example of them doing it right not the other way around.
 

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You guys are nuts. How do you miss the import of this statement?

Their goal, in tapping into UC Browser and also looking for larger app store vulnerabilities, was to collect data on suspected terrorists and other intelligence targets — and, in some cases, implant spyware on targeted smartphones.

This isn't a mass or bulk action, this is specific, targeted, selective, and it's directed against the right people. This IS their job and it isn't wrong.
 

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You guys are nuts. How do you miss the import of this statement?



This isn't a mass or bulk action, this is specific, targeted, selective, and it's directed against the right people. This IS their job and it isn't wrong.

So you're cool with your smartphone being infected as long as the virus doesn't activate cause you're not the specific target?
 

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So you're cool with your smartphone being infected as long as the virus doesn't activate cause you're not the specific target?

No, I'm cool with them adding a "selected target list" of phones that belong to terror suspects and other legitimate Intelligence targets in China and India, that will be infected if an update is pushed to them.
 

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No, I'm cool with them adding a "selected target list" of phones that belong to terror suspects and other legitimate Intelligence targets in China and India, that will be infected if an update is pushed to them.

Sounds fine, but isn't the way stuxnet worked kinda indicative of how they'd rather go about penetration? (for maximum chances make it non discriminatory)
 

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So you're cool with your smartphone being infected as long as the virus doesn't activate cause you're not the specific target?

What's wrong with that? I mean, it's Google Play which means you have Android which means you're already being spied on pretty much 100% of the time by not only your carrier, but Google and it's partner companies with that data being stored for an unlimited period of time. :D If you use Google products, you deserve every little bit of it and then some.
 

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Sounds fine, but isn't the way stuxnet worked kinda indicative of how they'd rather go about penetration? (for maximum chances make it non discriminatory)

I was never really familiar with Stuxnet but just from pulling up a wiki on it the description sounds like it was used in a specifically targeted effort against one specific target.

Stuxnet is typically introduced to the target environment via an infected USB flash drive.

When they say that the work 'The worm then propagates across the network," this does not assume that it will also attempt to propagate beyond the targeted network.

Langner called the malware "a one-shot weapon" and said that the intended target was probably hit,

These comments don't sound like the idea was to infect everything but only activate on desired targets.
 

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I was never really familiar with Stuxnet but just from pulling up a wiki on it the description sounds like it was used in a specifically targeted effort against one specific target.



When they say that the work 'The worm then propagates across the network," this does not assume that it will also attempt to propagate beyond the targeted network.



These comments don't sound like the idea was to infect everything but only activate on desired targets.

From what I've read on the subject, the way they were able to get it to the specific target was to make it as infectious as possible so that the virus would have the best chance at getting on the network via said USB drive.

Here's a sweet article on the subject: http://arstechnica.com/security/201...-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/
 

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What type of bullsh*t are these fucktards on anyways it's like I'm sure there are plenty of complete no sense havin just do wtf you are told complete dweebs on this site and any other one with no touch to any real world sense of things but damn if this is true the nsaskii is gayskii, nothing more.
No Im not bashin sexuality I could care less what you do thats between you and whoever keep it movin or keep it in the room between you two like ..This is the stupidiest weirdest sh*t ever though,I mean it was formed to help be security right wtfffff kind security is there in just bein dorks, who have nothing better to do than sit around with their damn finger up their ars spinnin around on it like weeeeeee feel the burn babyyyy yeaaahhh ohhh yeah.
So for any organization that was AT LEAST professional to just do shit like this that is so 'way outta the budget' just to, is gayness.
Only reason it was ever in place was to NOTICE if there were any issues either in the making [sign of something just aint right] or some instant flag goin up that some shit is about to go down..
What is any government doing not stayin tf in their place what do you even exist for and how if you are not PART of what is goin on .
How does anyone have any business even whatsoever doin invasive sh*t like wtf do you gaywads get out of that creepy stalker stuff how is it that any one of them with any actual say so isn't telling whoever comes up with bs like this to get their fu*kin sh*t together and get a damn clue..
It's obvious so many companies orgs etc the only threat to their well being is right there sittin right next to them, thinking he/she can do wtfever they wanna do..
Not simply only and solely doin what they gotta do.
Make a damn call pull rank and smack all those b*tches round with tha dick.

Lot more genuine sense there than in those creepy fingers busy even entertainin bullshit.

Damn threats to officials[most of which are prolly dumbasses bringing on themselves anyways or why would anyone anywhere wanna f with them]
And military, and civilians livin life minding their mfn biz.
,And allies. To whatever extent. .

Mfrs must not even graduate middle school until 2020 but swaring they can see something is going on..
No its youuuuu geekass dweebass mfrs
 

KG1O1

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And it's been known at least four years now about uc browser who cares. They need to get a damn life, like seriously.
 

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What type of bullsh*t are these fucktards on anyways it's like I'm sure there are plenty of complete no sense havin just do wtf you are told complete dweebs on this site and any other one with no touch to any real world sense of things but damn if this is true the nsaskii is gayskii, nothing more.
No Im not bashin sexuality I could care less what you do thats between you and whoever keep it movin or keep it in the room between you two like ..This is the stupidiest weirdest sh*t ever though,I mean it was formed to help be security right wtfffff kind security is there in just bein dorks, who have nothing better to do than sit around with their damn finger up their ars spinnin around on it like weeeeeee feel the burn babyyyy yeaaahhh ohhh yeah.
So for any organization that was AT LEAST professional to just do shit like this that is so 'way outta the budget' just to, is gayness.
Only reason it was ever in place was to NOTICE if there were any issues either in the making [sign of something just aint right] or some instant flag goin up that some shit is about to go down..
What is any government doing not stayin tf in their place what do you even exist for and how if you are not PART of what is goin on .
How does anyone have any business even whatsoever doin invasive sh*t like wtf do you gaywads get out of that creepy stalker stuff how is it that any one of them with any actual say so isn't telling whoever comes up with bs like this to get their fu*kin sh*t together and get a damn clue..
It's obvious so many companies orgs etc the only threat to their well being is right there sittin right next to them, thinking he/she can do wtfever they wanna do..
Not simply only and solely doin what they gotta do.
Make a damn call pull rank and smack all those b*tches round with tha dick.

Lot more genuine sense there than in those creepy fingers busy even entertainin bullshit.

Damn threats to officials[most of which are prolly dumbasses bringing on themselves anyways or why would anyone anywhere wanna f with them]
And military, and civilians livin life minding their mfn biz.
,And allies. To whatever extent. .

Mfrs must not even graduate middle school until 2020 but swaring they can see something is going on..
No its youuuuu geekass dweebass mfrs

I'd like to highlight this post as an authentic expression of outraged, anti-government jibberish. Unresearched rants littered with profanity the absence of any sort of critical thinking are certain to be the hinges upon which the door of worldwide change swings. I think that they're like a break in the clouds through which a beam of sunny enlightenment will shine. World governments will suddenly cease controlling their populations after having done so over the entire course of documented human history and everyone who wants to inflict harm on one another will put aside their differences and join hands to encircle the globe in a perpetually singing chorus of peace and human unity that makes it completely unnecessary to worry about greed or conflict. Huzzah for the post that'll bring us utopian bliss!
 

Germanium

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The part I find funniest is that in 2015 we don't have one smartphone available to us in the supposedly greatest country in the world that doesn't spy on you in some way. It's a game of who spy's the most from the manufacturers/carriers.

Android is pissing me off lately though, so anything else that comes onto my radar has an advantage there.
 

KG1O1

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I'd like to blah blah highlight authentic gayness blah blah blah blahh outraged rants profanity absence critical thinking certain hinges upon which blah blah womp womp clouds shine governments populations entire blah blah course wants to inflict harm on one another join hands perpetually makes it completely greed blahblah bliss!

K look just tell me what the F it is that you wannabe, It only takes one more mf'n drink.

You are no different than them, yeah it was youuuuuuu too huh
 

KG1O1

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The part I find funniest is that in 2015 we don't have one smartphone available to us in the supposedly greatest country in the world that doesn't spy on you in some way. It's a game of who spy's the most from the manufacturers/carriers.

Android is pissing me off lately though, so anything else that comes onto my radar has an advantage there.

And here tf you go who told any of you mfrs people could have cellphones, or ever needed them.. Like at least 70% sure as all hell do noot, and for all intents and purposes the world was doing just fine before cars even and doin okay with even landlines ACTUALLY LIVING DAMN LIFE but that isn't some blame on app or people who want to have shit just cuz it is avail weirdo deviant voice sounding deranged mfrs with no honor or sense just doing bullshit instead of their actual proper necessary job or just minding their damn biz like mf'n normal mfrs do[and/or doing wtf I and only I tell em to,as usual as any who have had a chance to find total pleasure in knowin it is only right,and progress very well] or some company who just crossed the nono line one, or ten too many times.

ctfu greatest country huh dude most countries are shit the us is top ten, but lemme tell you brothaaaaa...

Once pon a damn time, yep once pon a mfnnnn time.
 

KG1O1

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Pfff dudes all I actually really know how to do is take off my clothes. If anyone was wondering how I balance bein bruce waynee,by night.
 

Anemone

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Thought Google just said that 99% of all transactions on the store were safe. Hmm...
 
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