NSA Leaker Outed by Modern Printer Technology

Chunder said:
It's a shame our whistleblower laws are such garbage in America, the so called "land of the free" where citizens are supposed to hold their government accountable. Hopefully this American hero will be pardoned alongside Edward Snowden the same way Chelsea Manning was. It obviously won't be during the Trump administration, but the inevitable Democratic victory sweep in just over a year and again in 2020 against Trump and his 36% approval rating (Which I'm betting will be either by Sanders or a handpicked progressive runner), will most likely allow these patriots to walk free.
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Hero? Yeah right...youre insane.

Spire3660 said:
Just something to keep in mind, pretty much EVERY printer does this. Its not some spycraft-only level stuff, its everyday, pervasive surveillance. Land of the Free, Home of the Brave, afraid of the printing press.
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It was put in there to prevent money counterfeiting. Just like scanners are required to save images to prevent child porn...
 
nutzo said:
I just want to know how she got a security clearance. Didn't they bother looking at her social media postings?
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She's 25 right? She served 4 years in the Air Force and now she's a contractor for what, 2 or 3 years probably. So she got her security clearance about 6 or 7 years ago when she was maybe 18 or 19.

6 or 7 years ago means her investigation was done before several important events. Before Manning, before Snowden, and before the government decided that they would look at social media activity at all. It's also before the government found out that UNISYS, a contracting company that was doing investigations for the government, was falsifying investigations in order to qualify for bonuses under the contract for rapid completion of investigations, which was frankly a stupid idea to begin with.

It also means there was a 5 year update that was supposed to be done, but they are at least a year behind so maybe she has had her first re investigation and maybe not. Either way, 19 year olds' don't have much of a life to investigate anyway so it's criminal record checks and were you a decent kid in high school, did your neighbors have anything bad to say about you like did they ever see you torturing small animals.

And remember, it was the very recent Presidential race and election of Donald Trump that pushed her "over the edge", perhaps she didn't have much of a history on social media to work with.

And if you got what I said earlier, it's the same personal qualities that made her decide to try and do something that also made her look good for a clearance.

I just think the media is so lost in itself that they just don't realize how they are pushing people's buttons and influencing them to do really bad things. Or, the media knows it and just doesn't care cause hey, it makes more news right.

Even today, they can and maybe do, look at my publicly posted social media comments. But they don't look in your private posts, like a PM from me to you, unless they are actually investigating me. The same is true of FaceBook posts that are limited to her Friends. They won't look there unless they have a real specific reason. Perhaps if she is going through her periodic re-investigation they might, but it might require a more specific investigation where they suspect a problem like in this very case.
 
Chupachup said:
She never read The Handbook, did she? You never, ever, hand off the original to the press. You copy it with higher contrast. Then run to the nearest Kinko's and copy the copy. Then copy that copy with lower contrast and lowered brightness using different copiers. You then scan that at 320px and, using a glib Gmail ID, send it to a friend for THEM to print while you hit the bar for what could be you last beer as a free person. Hopefully, common sense (or the beer) kicks in at some point and you decide to shred all copies and burn the remains in the parking lot:chicken::ROFLMAO:
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Mimeograph a mimeograph, that should blur out anything smaller than 1/16" in size. Bonus that afterward you can bliss out sniffing it old school style.
 
N4CR said:
No they are pozzed too.
To right of 8 is practically invisible and that's quite dense dot spacing. Spread it out more and...
View attachment 26974
I also noticed discrepancies of blank/few letter pages on each letter.

When I heard of this story I wondered if they got her this way.
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Time to start using my old Epson dot matrix printer. :p
 
lcpiper said:
I just think the media is so lost in itself that they just don't realize how they are pushing people's buttons and influencing them to do really bad things. Or, the media knows it and just doesn't care cause hey, it makes more news right.
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I'll agree with you on that.
 
Chunder said:
It obviously won't be during the Trump administration, but the inevitable Democratic victory sweep in just over a year and again in 2020 against Trump and his 36% approval rating (Which I'm betting will be either by Sanders or a handpicked progressive runner), will most likely allow these patriots to walk free.
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Keep dreaming.
In spite of his low numbers (should we even believe the poll numbers from a media that hates him?), he still polls better than Democrats in most states.
It's fantasy to think that Bernie would have done any better than Hillary against Trump.
 
DigitalGriffin said:
And in doing so, she potentially jeopardized an investigation which might have yielded more critical evidence.

When you agree to work in intelligence you don't have the luxury of imposing your belief system. You are a tool, a means to an end, directed by those above you to accomplish a goal. If you can't leave your beliefs at the door, you shouldn't be working there. And although it could be incredibly lucrative to get a security clearance, I know I couldn't honestly do intelligence work with a clean conscious, and I wouldn't. Now if I did accept that job, I know I no longer have that right. I made my decision to leave my opinions behind to trust those above me to do the right thing. But it would ethically rub me wrong in the first place, and therefore I couldn't accept that responsibility.

LCPiper,

Despite our disagreements about intelligence agencies taking liberties with our safety through exploits and spying, I will agree that those working these jobs believe they are doing the greater good, even if that is not the reality. I understand that some people want to do the good fight, and want to do some good things.

A couple years back I was quite upset that these young people brought in to do the NSA's work were so blind as to the end consequences. But now I realize that it is really not their job to look ahead to the consequences of their work.

However I am still uneasy about the rather loosely regulated approach the government takes towards spying on our private lives and holding back potential security fixes, and it's potential abuses. (ie: Wannacry) To many career bureaucrats making decisions they shouldn't.
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Although I fully understand your sentiments, I still think that you have an incomplete or slightly mistaken view of the NSA, what it is, and what it's doing.

Many here are finally coming around to understand that most of the workers at the NSA are just young active duty service members. I'm sure they see black suits and long sleeved shirts and ties and black rimmed glasses, but I think that image is slowly changing.

The next concept is what the NSA does and the idea that the NSA is strongly focused inward. First, imagine working for a huge company. That company has engineering positions and management and facilities people, entry level jobs and IT support, legal, HR, etc. The NSA is no different, and also imagine that this company does business all over the world, and in fact, is mostly restricted from doing any work in the US. Well, they can do some work in the US, if the work is about foreign businesses operating in the US.

Now imagine the pie chart with all the business this company does throughout the world in many different business sectors, then imagine this one business sector in the part that is foreign business in the US. The really big slice is everything else, and the tiny sliver is US based. So if the NSA has over 400,000 employees, imagine that 100 of them are working the home based stuff that you focus your attention on and believe is a fast effort.

And no one asks us to shelve our personal beliefs of right and wrong, heck, those are the kind of people they won't to hire. But zealots are not what they are after. I have mentioned it before, William Binney and his strong ethical beliefs was not an exception to the rule, he is normal among these people. But Binney believed something wrong was happening. He wasn't part of the program, he had never been briefed on it, and was never told what steps were being taken to protect against abuse, or that it had been specifically authorized by the President and validated by the White House legal staff. William Binney was acting on the belief that nothing had changed regarding the limits of what they normally do not do. Had he actually known everything I am not so sure that he would have put up the fight he did.

So these people are not robots, they are not told to keep their beliefs to themselves, they are not kept "compartmentalized" so they don't know what they are doing.

And I make $75K as a Journeyman Sysad on these contracts, if I get to work a full year without interruptions due to sequestration. It hurts to loose a month's pay for our disfunctional congress.

Do this search in Google
average salary systems administrator journeyman Tucson
I got this;
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=average+salary+systems+administrator+journeyman+Tucson

Notice that all the defense contractor type jobs are $60K or so, but the non contract work for Boeing is $97K. I could go civilian and get a nice pay raise. Now I will admit, the last few years the government has been trying to low-ball contracts and force salarys down. Contracting companies have also not been able to find people will to accept these low rates and the companies are being forced to let the contracts go as unfilled cause they can't get the people. Then the government comes back and raises the rates back up. But it effects the numbers.
 
nutzo said:
Keep dreaming.
In spite of his low numbers (should we even believe the poll numbers from a media that hates him?), he still polls better than Democrats in most states.
It's fantasy to think that Bernie would have done any better than Hillary against Trump.
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It doesn't matter if Trump polls better than Democrats in Wyoming. It matters whether he polls better than Democrats in some district that went for Clinton in 2016 but has a Republican House representative.
 
Spire3660 said:
Isnt this essentially Kerberos/TTL? Its not that you dont have privileges to change the local machine, its that if your clock doesn't match the network, it wont talk to you regardless, right?
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It's both, I said if the time is off the machine will drop from the network and that's what I meant, it essentially can't authentic with any services so it essentially "dropped". But this doesn't change the other I mentioned about privileges. Users on these networks can't change their system times cause the admins don't want them screwing up their workstations.
 
The scary issue is was this 25 year old woman, just wasn't a disgruntled democrat. She was an anti American leftist activist. And she was granted high level clearance.
THAT is scary.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
The scary issue is was this 25 year old woman, just wasn't a disgruntled democrat. She was an anti American leftist activist. And she was granted high level clearance.
THAT is scary.
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She was a 6 year Air Force veteran who doesn't like the current administration. She was stupid, but I wouldn't call her an anti-American. In her mind, she felt releasing that info WAS the American thing to do. She's wrong, but she wasn't out looking to destroy democracy.
 
lcpiper said:
She's 25 right? She served 4 years in the Air Force and now she's a contractor for what, 2 or 3 years probably. So she got her security clearance about 6 or 7 years ago when she was maybe 18 or 19.

6 or 7 years ago means her investigation was done before several important events. Before Manning, before Snowden, and before the government decided that they would look at social media activity at all. It's also before the government found out that UNISYS, a contracting company that was doing investigations for the government, was falsifying investigations in order to qualify for bonuses under the contract for rapid completion of investigations, which was frankly a stupid idea to begin with.

It also means there was a 5 year update that was supposed to be done, but they are at least a year behind so maybe she has had her first re investigation and maybe not. Either way, 19 year olds' don't have much of a life to investigate anyway so it's criminal record checks and were you a decent kid in high school, did your neighbors have anything bad to say about you like did they ever see you torturing small animals.

And remember, it was the very recent Presidential race and election of Donald Trump that pushed her "over the edge", perhaps she didn't have much of a history on social media to work with.

And if you got what I said earlier, it's the same personal qualities that made her decide to try and do something that also made her look good for a clearance.

I just think the media is so lost in itself that they just don't realize how they are pushing people's buttons and influencing them to do really bad things. Or, the media knows it and just doesn't care cause hey, it makes more news right.

Even today, they can and maybe do, look at my publicly posted social media comments. But they don't look in your private posts, like a PM from me to you, unless they are actually investigating me. The same is true of FaceBook posts that are limited to her Friends. They won't look there unless they have a real specific reason. Perhaps if she is going through her periodic re-investigation they might, but it might require a more specific investigation where they suspect a problem like in this very case.
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Please stop defending this idiot. http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ity-winner-from-getting-top-secret-clearance/
 
Bandalo said:
She was a 6 year Air Force veteran who doesn't like the current administration. She was stupid, but I wouldn't call her an anti-American. In her mind, she felt releasing that info WAS the American thing to do. She's wrong, but she wasn't out looking to destroy democracy.
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Go read her tweets and the screen-capped facebook posts. Super hardcore lefty SJW who said she'd stand with Iran.
 
Bandalo said:
She was a 6 year Air Force veteran who doesn't like the current administration. She was stupid, but I wouldn't call her an anti-American. In her mind, she felt releasing that info WAS the American thing to do. She's wrong, but she wasn't out looking to destroy democracy.
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Nope.
They looked into her political activities. She supported leftist fringe groups. Sympathized with Iran and "Death to America" organizations. The exact kind of person you DO NOT WANT having security clearances. OF COURSE if you align yourself in this way she believed she was doing the right thing. Sorry, that right thing is illegal.
Likely she will play the "victim" in all of this and get a slap on the wrist by a liberal judge. She is just a little ole girl; she didn't know she couldn't use the printer for that.
 
The yellow dots were widely publicized years ago around the time printers could start printing hq money (though the paper stock is all wrong)
 
lilbabycat said:
After seeing what people dug up on this woman just from her facebook / google / other social media; it worries me who has access to privileged data at the NSA and other alphabet agencies. IF what they dug up was true, she had what was pretty questionable opinions on several very political subjects.

Funny part is nothing she leaked proves anything, just fucks her life/career.
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Been asleep man?

Don't you remember me telling you guys that part of the fallout of Snowden was that the Government decided that they couldn't afford another incident like this. They have been tightening everything down, and they have essentially instituted the most pervasive and complete monitoring program of Cleared employees ever. This is the big brother of big brother. You are seeing the result. Everyone with a clearance, all their records, public and private, are accessible by the government ... end of discussion. By extension, all cleared employees forfeit any resemblance of digital privacy.

And just for the record, how do you know that nothing she leaked proves anything?

Normally information is not classified because of what it is. It's classified because of how it was obtained. Sometimes specific information can only be known to others in a few ways, and the simple fact that someone found out, can risk how it was discovered. And that is the reason why most information is classified. It's not about what it says, it's about how we found out.

So you might not see anything about this report that looks all secret like. But that doesn't mean that this leak didn't risk a very valuable method or source or collection capability.

Maybe it just made a 3 billion dollar satellite useless, or a compromised piece of networking equipment somewhere just got found and replaced. Maybe there is someone dead in an alley. No one is going to tell you the upshot of this.

I don't find anything the least bit funny about any of this. Not what she did, or what is going to happen to her.

And yes, I don't think you really meant funny as in lol, har de har har har. I'm not trying to beat you up or attack you.
 
lcpiper said:
Been asleep man?

Don't you remember me telling you guys that part of the fallout of Snowden was that the Government decided that they couldn't afford another incident like this. They have been tightening everything down, and they have essentially instituted the most pervasive and complete monitoring program of Cleared employees ever. This is the big brother of big brother. You are seeing the result. Everyone with a clearance, all their records, public and private, are accessible by the government ... end of discussion. By extension, all cleared employees forfeit any resemblance of digital privacy.

And just for the record, how do you know that nothing she leaked proves anything?

Normally information is not classified because of what it is. It's classified because of how it was obtained. Sometimes specific information can only be known to others in a few ways, and the simple fact that someone found out, can risk how it was discovered. And that is the reason why most information is classified. It's not about what it says, it's about how we found out.

So you might not see anything about this report that looks all secret like. But that doesn't mean that this leak didn't risk a very valuable method or source or collection capability.

Maybe it just made a 3 billion dollar satellite useless, or a compromised piece of networking equipment somewhere just got found and replaced. Maybe there is someone dead in an alley. No one is going to tell you the upshot of this.

I don't find anything the least bit funny about any of this. Not what she did, or what is going to happen to her.

And yes, I don't think you really meant funny as in lol, har de har har har. I'm not trying to beat you up or attack you.
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And yet, you constantly shill in her defense. I haven't seen you condemn her yet. I did 5 years in the Marines, under a CinC I wasn't a fan of, and then 3 more as a contractor, and yet no one under my charge ever leaked info like a douchebag.

I want you to condemn her in no uncertain terms. I want you to acknowledge reality. If you won't, then quite frankly your clearance should come under review and your contract should be terminated. As a free citizen you can do, say, or think whatever you want. When you hold the position you seemingly hold, you have an obligation. Your constant shilling in this degenerates' defense leads me to believe that you do not hold your vows.

I've filled out an SF-86, held a Secret clearance, generated and loaded keymat, acted as a comsec custodian, reported compromise incidents, theater-wide rekeys, you name it.

This idiot should have had her clearance revoked, and nothing you can possibly say will change the fact that investigators should have caught the things she was openly dumping out.
 
flashoverride said:
Obviously motivated to do good things? Great sense of loyalty to the Constitution? This "Winner" tweeted to the Foreign Minister of Iran that "If our Tangerine in Chief declares war, we stand with you!" This US Air Force vet, who our government spent plenty of money on to learn Udru, Farsi, and Pashto, communicated DIRECTLY to a foreign government that she would stand in solidarity with them over her own country.

I hope she rots in jail.
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I get you, but she's 25, she's an adult but she's still a kid. She's pissed off at Trump riding the public sentiment train and she's lost all perspective. I'm not saying that she didn't do some seriously wrong things. I'm not saying go easy on her.

I'm trying to get it acrossed that her basic motivation is that she feels the boss is off the rails, and her duty as a citizen is "to resist".

I don't think she's right, but I think that NSA guy has it wrong when he says that people like her are motivated by anything other than her core beliefs.
 
Chunder said:
It's a shame our whistleblower laws are such garbage in America, the so called "land of the free" where citizens are supposed to hold their government accountable. Hopefully this American hero will be pardoned alongside Edward Snowden the same way Chelsea Manning was. It obviously won't be during the Trump administration, but the inevitable Democratic victory sweep in just over a year and again in 2020 against Trump and his 36% approval rating (Which I'm betting will be either by Sanders or a handpicked progressive runner), will most likely allow these patriots to walk free.
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This isn't whistleblowing, this is jail time.

Manning was wrong, Ed Snowden was the worst. These people aren't Heros.
 
lcpiper said:
I get you, but she's 25, she's an adult but she's still a kid. She's pissed off at Trump riding the public sentiment train and she's lost all perspective. I'm not saying that she didn't do some seriously wrong things. I'm not saying go easy on her.

I'm trying to get it acrossed that her basic motivation is that she feels the boss is off the rails, and her duty as a citizen is "to resist".

I don't think she's right, but I think that NSA guy has it wrong when he says that people like her are motivated by anything other than her core beliefs.
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Jesus Christ.

25, she's an adult but she's still a kid? FUCK YOU. One of my Marines lost his life at 20. You think this is a game? On this day 73 years ago 18 and 19 year olds were busy fighting their way through Utah and Omaha beach. YOU THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME CHOICE FUCKING WORDS ABOUT ROOSEVELT?!
 
flashoverride said:
Please stop defending this idiot. http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ity-winner-from-getting-top-secret-clearance/
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See, here's part of the problem. You can't explain things to people without someone thinking your defending someone or something.

I'm not even going to go through the trouble of proving you wrong, and stupid.

You go through all the things they say she posted or said, you look up the dates of the statements, and you figure out if they were posted before or after she was granted her clearance.

If you are unwilling to do so, then you are just talking out of your ass.

You said it, you prove it.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
Nope.
They looked into her political activities. She supported leftist fringe groups. Sympathized with Iran and "Death to America" organizations. The exact kind of person you DO NOT WANT having security clearances. OF COURSE if you align yourself in this way she believed she was doing the right thing. Sorry, that right thing is illegal.
Likely she will play the "victim" in all of this and get a slap on the wrist by a liberal judge. She is just a little ole girl; she didn't know she couldn't use the printer for that.
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What are your sources for these claims?

Again, I'm not saying she wasn't stupid and broke the law, but that's the first I've heard of anything of your claims.
 
flashoverride said:
Go read her tweets and the screen-capped facebook posts. Super hardcore lefty SJW who said she'd stand with Iran.
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See posts where she clearly wasn't a fan of Trump. She was against oil pipelines, and wanted clean water for everyone. I don't see anything about her stance on Iran in any of the articles I've seen.

I think jumping to a label like "super hardcore lefty SJW" may be a bit premature. Disliking the president shouldn't be an immediate death sentence, even if you're a federal employee or contractor.
 
Bandalo said:
See posts where she clearly wasn't a fan of Trump. She was against oil pipelines, and wanted clean water for everyone. I don't see anything about her stance on Iran in any of the articles I've seen.

I think jumping to a label like "super hardcore lefty SJW" may be a bit premature. Disliking the president shouldn't be an immediate death sentence, even if you're a federal employee or contractor.
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Javad Zarif ✔ @JZarif
We will never use our weapons against anyone, except in self-defense. Let us see if any of those who complain can make the same statement. pic.twitter.com/xwGquvqLvb

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Sara Winners @Reezlie
@JZarif There are many Americans protesting US govt aggression towards Iran. If our Tangerine in Chief declares war, we stand with you!

5:18 AM - 7 Feb 2017
 
flashoverride said:
Jesus Christ.

25, she's an adult but she's still a kid? FUCK YOU. One of my Marines lost his life at 20. You think this is a game? On this day 73 years ago 18 and 19 year olds were busy fighting their way through Utah and Omaha beach. YOU THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD SOME CHOICE FUCKING WORDS ABOUT ROOSEVELT?!
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Don't talk to me like that. My uncle who I am named after died in Germany less than 2 weeks before the end of WW2. You don't have a fucking monopoly on this shit. I retired from the Army after 16 years, I've been a cleared contractor for the last 19 years since, I've spent my entire adult life doing the job and I spent a year doing it in Iraq with mortars and shit being dropped on us and shit.

You are loosing your objectivity. I get it, you have a deep personal stake. But you are not getting my message.

It's simple, I blame our media for inflaming our population, pushing false pictures of reality, and driving young people to do stupid things.

I never ever said that she should not pay for her crime.

I never said she isn't guilty or that anyone should go easy on her.

So get a grip Marine and if you want clarification on something so you know what I am saying just ask me. More then happy to explain myself.
 
lcpiper said:
See, here's part of the problem. You can't explain things to people without someone thinking your defending someone or something.

I'm not even going to go through the trouble of proving you wrong, and stupid.

You go through all the things they say she posted or said, you look up the dates of the statements, and you figure out if they were posted before or after she was granted her clearance.

If you are unwilling to do so, then you are just talking out of your ass.

You said it, you prove it.
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I don't give a shit when she STARTED being a traitor, I care that she IS a traitor.

Standard lawyerly dissemblance. You know she's wrong, you're just trying to cover for the rest of the potential traitors. Quite frankly, Trump should tell Matthis to go down to 8th & I, get a battalion of Marines, and occupy Ft. Meade.
 
flashoverride said:
Javad Zarif ✔ @JZarif
We will never use our weapons against anyone, except in self-defense. Let us see if any of those who complain can make the same statement. pic.twitter.com/xwGquvqLvb

Follow
Sara Winners @Reezlie
@JZarif There are many Americans protesting US govt aggression towards Iran. If our Tangerine in Chief declares war, we stand with you!

5:18 AM - 7 Feb 2017
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That one is a bit unclear IMO...to me that reads like she's standing with the protestors.
 
lcpiper said:
Don't talk to me like that. My uncle who I am named after died in Germany less than 2 weeks before the end of WW2. You don't have a fucking monopoly on this shit. I retired from the Army after 16 years, I've been a cleared contractor for the last 19 years since, I've spent my entire adult life doing the job and I spent a year doing it in Iraq with mortars and shit being dropped on us and shit.

You are loosing your objectivity. I get it, you have a deep personal stake. But you are not getting my message.

It's simple, I blame our media for inflaming our population, pushing false pictures of reality, and driving young people to do stupid things.

I never ever said that she should not pay for her crime.

I never said she isn't guilty or that anyone should go easy on her.

So get a grip Marine and if you want clarification on something so you know what I am saying just ask me. More then happy to explain myself.
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At 19, I was Corporal of Marines. At 21, a Sergeant of Marines. Your constant "oh well you know she was young and just inflamed passionately with politics" rhetoric means nothing to me. So was I, but I understood I had a JOB to do, and the importance of the Chain of Command, and the importance of DISCIPLINE.

Maybe the Army doesn't teach that anymore in the age of Manning, but the Marines haven't forgotten.
 
flashoverride said:
I don't give a shit when she STARTED being a traitor, I care that she IS a traitor.

Standard lawyerly dissemblance. You know she's wrong, you're just trying to cover for the rest of the potential traitors. Quite frankly, Trump should tell Matthis to go down to 8th & I, get a battalion of Marines, and occupy Ft. Meade.
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You know, if you knew that much about the military, you might realize that Matthis doesn't send troops anywhere. The Joint Chiefs do.

Second, I'd imagine those Marines would rather not be involved in a military overthrow of another federal office. Exactly what do you think those guys should do once they've occupied the NSA, Sarge?
 
Bandalo said:
You know, if you knew that much about the military, you might realize that Matthis doesn't send troops anywhere. The Joint Chiefs do.

Second, I'd imagine those Marines would rather not be involved in a military overthrow of another federal office. Exactly what do you think those guys should do once they've occupied the NSA, Sarge?
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Secure the facilities. Also, one part of the Federal government can't "overthrow" another part of the Federal government - and the NSA is a military command. That's why it's on Ft. Meade. It is literally part of the Department of Defense.
 
Bandalo said:
No, the American protestors that she was speaking about in her tweet. You know, the ones who have the right to protest?
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Well then she should resign her post, relinquish her clearance, dispose of all classified material in her possession, attend the out-briefing, and not disclose classified information she's been exposed to. You know, like the rest of us are required to.
 
flashoverride said:
Well then she should resign her post, relinquish her clearance, dispose of all classified material in her possession, attend the out-briefing, and not disclose classified information she's been exposed to. You know, like the rest of us are required to.
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I agree she should have done those things if she was that disappointed or unhappy with the current administration. I agree she certainly shouldn't have released any classified material.

There's a couple LEGAL things to consider though. She's no longer on active duty, and she's not a GS, so she's allowed to have whatever political life she wants outside work, as allowed by her employer.

My original comment was to jumping to name-calling with her, and labeling her as a "super hardcore lefty SJW who said she'd stand with Iran". Reading all the stuff I can find on her, it looks like she REALLY didn't like Trump. But I think more than half of the population in the US has that opinion these days, so I don't think you can hold that against her. What you CAN hold against her, is her illegal release of information for the purpose of damaging Trump. That is clearly wrong and she deserves whatever legal repercussions she gets.
 
flashoverride said:
I don't give a shit when she STARTED being a traitor, I care that she IS a traitor.

Standard lawyerly dissemblance. You know she's wrong, you're just trying to cover for the rest of the potential traitors. Quite frankly, Trump should tell Matthis to go down to 8th & I, get a battalion of Marines, and occupy Ft. Meade.
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I am not trying to cover up for anything. You need to get off my ass cause you're pissing me off son.

If you want to be angry go kick a dog cause I'm not stepping up to fill in for that bullshit.

I told you where I stand and I was clear enough. I already said she was wrong before you ever got into this thing and I'm not trying to cover for anyone.

I do not deserve your anger.
 
Bandalo said:
I agree she should have done those things if she was that disappointed or unhappy with the current administration. I agree she certainly shouldn't have released any classified material.

There's a couple LEGAL things to consider though. She's no longer on active duty, and she's not a GS, so she's allowed to have whatever political life she wants outside work, as allowed by her employer.

My original comment was to jumping to name-calling with her, and labeling her as a "super hardcore lefty SJW who said she'd stand with Iran". Reading all the stuff I can find on her, it looks like she REALLY didn't like Trump. But I think more than half of the population in the US has that opinion these days, so I don't think you can hold that against her. What you CAN hold against her, is her illegal release of information for the purpose of damaging Trump. That is clearly wrong and she deserves whatever legal repercussions she gets.
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Again, go read the link I sent already. http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ity-winner-from-getting-top-secret-clearance/

If you can objectively read through that, and draw a different conclusion, then quite frankly I have to question your cognitive abilities.

Understand this isn't a judgement as to whether she's right or wrong. Clearly, I believe 20000% that she is wrong, but in a free country she's free to hold whatever dumb ass beliefs she wants. However, once she is employed in a certain position and entrusted with certain information, that changes things.
 
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