Nokia Axes 7,000 Jobs to Slash Costs

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Bad news if you work for Nokia. The company says it is cutting 7,000 jobs in an attempt to save almost $1.5 billion in costs.

Nokia, the world's largest phone maker by volume, on Wednesday detailed an overhaul of its phone business following its decision to start using Microsoft software instead of its own Symbian platform. The move includes laying off 4,000 staff and transferring another 3,000 to services firm Accenture - a total 12 percent of its phone unit workforce.
 

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The writing was on the wall after Nokia jumped in bed with MS. They are just dumping everyone associated with their other OSes.
 

meatfestival

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I find it astounding that Nokia had so many employees and still couldn't come up with anything even approaching the quality of Android or iPhone user experience.
 

krotch

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Symbian will stick around. It'll just end up being limited to the Japanese.
 

GilmourD

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You know... I honestly haven't seen a Nokia phone with my own eyes in a couple years. I actually forgot about Nokia until somebody mentioned them the other day. LOL
 

TechLarry

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If they're jumping in bed with Microsoft and Accenture this isn't going to end well.

Nope. History has proven Microsoft doesn't have the gumption to stick it out when it comes to hardware/embedded software devices.

They will probably end up canning Phone software eventually, and that will take em' all down the tubes.

Lets face it. MS doesn't stand much of a chance against the Apple/Android Juggernauts.
 

Waambulance

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They need too. The company was way too large for its performance.

People need to lose their jobs because you don't believe that their company's "performance" was up to your standard? I would ask if you knew anything about Symbian, but I would assume not, based on your previous ignorant comment. :rolleyes:
 

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Lets face it. MS doesn't stand much of a chance against the Apple/Android Juggernauts.

Really? http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/gartner-windows-phone-7-will-overtake-ios-by-2015/

Might be total BS but it would be a grave mistake for Google and Apple to ignore Microsoft especially when they do now have a compelling phone offering, love my HTC Arrive and pretty much every major weakness in Windows Phone will be corrected at the end of the year. The developer tools for the next version of Windows Phone come out next month and as of today the Window Phone Market place has over 15,000 apps in just six months. I hope to get my first couple of Windows Phone apps out in the next month or two.
 

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Really? http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/gartner-windows-phone-7-will-overtake-ios-by-2015/

Might be total BS but it would be a grave mistake for Google and Apple to ignore Microsoft especially when they do now have a compelling phone offering, love my HTC Arrive and pretty much every major weakness in Windows Phone will be corrected at the end of the year. The developer tools for the next version of Windows Phone come out next month and as of today the Window Phone Market place has over 15,000 apps in just six months. I hope to get my first couple of Windows Phone apps out in the next month or two.

I'm simply not that convinced about the prospects of Windows Phone 7, Nokia deal or no Nokia deal. The marketshare of Windows actually went DOWN on phones even following Windows Phone 7's introduction, that just doesn't seem like a very impressive result even if it is in the early stages.

Heck, looking at Gartner they're barely above 4% marketshare worldwide in 2010, meanwhile Android is up nearly 900%. Symbian is clearly still a juggernaut at least when it comes to sales in the short term as well.

How long can Microsoft afford to have Nokia take in transitioning to Windows Phone and how quickly can Nokia afford to transition away from Symbian? It doesn't seem to me like you'd instantly want to yank support for something that shipped 110,000,000 units last year.
 

Runningflame570

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It appears I was reading things incorrectly (and I suppose those are aggregate sales data Gartner was using) as evidently Symbian only SHIPPED 31 million units last year.

That is still a pretty huge number though and it would seem like a very bad idea to immediately try and drop support.
 

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The marketshare of Windows actually went DOWN on phones even following Windows Phone 7's introduction, that just doesn't seem like a very impressive result even if it is in the early stages.

But Windows Phone STILL isn't on Verizon yet and Sprint just got it and there's still not a lot of devices. The OS will be just as good as iOS and Android this year, the apps are growing very quickly, and the number of devices is going to jump many fold over the next year. We really won't have a good indication of Windows Phone for another year at least. But everything is in place on on track to make Windows Phone huge. It won't fail because it's bad or lacks apps and capability.
 

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People need to lose their jobs because you don't believe that their company's "performance" was up to your standard? I would ask if you knew anything about Symbian, but I would assume not, based on your previous ignorant comment. :rolleyes:

Yes, there profits are tumbling and their marketshare couldnt possibly be falling faster. Thats a pretty damn good reason to cut costs and people.
 

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I find it astounding that Nokia had so many employees and still couldn't come up with anything even approaching the quality of Android or iPhone user experience.
Nokia was, is and it will be at the top of mobile phones. I had and experienced various brands and so on but nothing is really comparable to Nokias in the ease of use and user friendly design and so on. Although iPhone and Android phones may sell better it doesn't mean they are better for everyone or in everything. Prior to touchscreen phones reaching mainstream market, the Nokia was without real competition.
 

colinstu

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1.5 BILLION / 7000 = ~214k $ per person per year? That sounds like.... some super overpaid people to me.

Unless that 1.5 billion number is a couple years of pay.

And they're "only" laying off 4000. At least 3000 get a job at a different place.


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Businesses gotta do what they gotta do. They're in it for the money, keep investors happy, and buyers of their products to keep coming back.
 

ol1bit

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That works out to the Average Pay being around $214,000! Have to sell a ton of phones to pay that as an average.

I don't make enough money.
 

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what? it's gonna get a Ballmerectomy?

Pretty much:

Background multi-tasking
Gyroscope and better location APIs
IE 9 and HTML 5 support
Slick task switcher
Improved performance
Better minimum hardware specs for new phones
 

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Nokia was, is and it will be at the top of mobile phones. I had and experienced various brands and so on but nothing is really comparable to Nokias in the ease of use and user friendly design and so on. Although iPhone and Android phones may sell better it doesn't mean they are better for everyone or in everything. Prior to touchscreen phones reaching mainstream market, the Nokia was without real competition.

I bought the NOKIA Smarphone that came to compete against the IPHONE because I swallowed the propaganda pill. I am trying to remember its name right now and I still can't. Ease of use? Simplicity? Applications? Don't make me laugh!!

The piece of SHIT Java that Symbian is based on will hang my camera in the middle of a video recording and I will lose what I was recording. I have it as an alarm clock and that's it.
 

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That works out to the Average Pay being around $214,000! Have to sell a ton of phones to pay that as an average.

I don't make enough money.
There are far more costs to employing someone than just headcount.
 

Cerulean

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Despite their CEOs and higher ups making millions of dollars in wages. :rolleyes:
 
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