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Well, they also happen to make the best stuff. Coincidence? I think not
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[sarcasm]Everyone knows that if you attach/embedded enough LED lights into a fan then the "cool" factor goes way, way up. So much so that it will perform 150% better than every other fan on the market.
I've heard this over and over, and yes, it's only 3 anecdotal data points, but my 2x Antec Kuhler 920 and 1x Kuhler 620 have been running pretty much 24/7/365 for the past few years without issues.
And yeah, that's the thing with industrial fans, their intended speed/airflow target is much higher than most consumer fans. So of course a Delta screamer is going to wear out faster and buzz when spun down, but it'll perform a heck of a lot better than an Ultra Kaze or even a Noctua iPPC at high RPMs.
The Gentle Typhoon is one of the few exceptions to that rule. It was a server fan designed for lower speeds, hence the consumer fan market is just now catching up to them.
And that's the best case scenario! Worst case, they are keeping the price the same but sacrificing quality a bit on other components to make up for the cost of the RGB shit.All it is is added cost to products that are already starting to get outrageous and costing us more to build.
You seem a bit butthurt here, more than even I am with all the crap that comes with RGB now.The fuck is wrong with all of you and what the hell is sooooooooo bad about RGB? Like, God forbid people be able to CHOOSE WHAT COLOR they want their PC when they choose.
I mean goddammit, all of you act like just because somethings RGB it has to be cycling colors constantly at epileptic speeds and you just CAN NOT do anything else OTHER THAN THAT! Did you know you can even...*GASP*...TURN THEM OFF COMPLETELY! WTF?!
Noctua having no RGB = them not doing RGB. That's ALL. They aren't some saviors of PC fans. They aren't choosing form over function. They're just deciding not to do something that would sell more fans to people that want to stick with the ole' evil stupid LOL KIDS RGB fans.
It's really annoying how you people act. It makes you all look more ignorant than the so called idiots that like having different colors in their case.
OH I'm sorry...is having lights in your PC just stupid over all now or something? Sorry, didn't get the memo...I guess doing what we've been doing for decades is fucking retarded now.
Someone had too much time on their hands. You should be engineering better blade designs!
The fuck is wrong with all of you and what the hell is sooooooooo bad about RGB? Like, God forbid people be able to CHOOSE WHAT COLOR they want their PC when they choose.
I mean goddammit, all of you act like just because somethings RGB it has to be cycling colors constantly at epileptic speeds and you just CAN NOT do anything else OTHER THAN THAT! Did you know you can even...*GASP*...TURN THEM OFF COMPLETELY! WTF?!
Noctua having no RGB = them not doing RGB. That's ALL. They aren't some saviors of PC fans. They aren't choosing form over function. They're just deciding not to do something that would sell more fans to people that want to stick with the ole' evil stupid LOL KIDS RGB fans.
It's really annoying how you people act. It makes you all look more ignorant than the so called idiots that like having different colors in their case.
OH I'm sorry...is having lights in your PC just stupid over all now or something? Sorry, didn't get the memo...I guess doing what we've been doing for decades is fucking retarded now.
I think most people that are in love with RGB view it as a new concept. Its not. I was building PC's back in late 90's when the LED craze hit, EVERYONE used LED fans in their builds. For those of us that were around back then building PC's its nothing new to us, and we see it as "Its been done". So its not very exciting. You could pick which color you wanted back then too, although sometimes it was a little more difficult because the market wasn't as saturated as it is now days.
Edit-I forgot the name. Cold Cathode! 15 years ago it seems. A trip down memroy lane.I think most people that are in love with RGB view it as a new concept. Its not. I was building PC's back in late 90's when the LED craze hit, EVERYONE used LED fans in their builds. For those of us that were around back then building PC's its nothing new to us, and we see it as "Its been done". So its not very exciting.
What were the vapor lamps that people were using? I forgot the name.15 years ago it seems.
What were the vapor lamps that people were using? I forgot the name.15 years ago it seems.
Cathode rays?
Nope. I like 'em too.Am I the only one who actually likes their beige and brown color fans?
Nope. I like 'em too.
I'm sure I could list things almost endlessly, but my point is made; they are everywhere.
You could pick which color you wanted back then too
Indeed they have been. I think it took them 4 years to create their new fan.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...VCIezCh3bkASiEAQYASABEgJNF_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I have two on my NH-D15 & they're awesome!
My original post in this thread was referring to Noctua as a company, not Nidec. And it was Bawjaws that said they were the epitome of function over form, not I. Reading comprehension -1. If you need a point, then it's just that I've had great results with the GT 1850's and would go with them again. For rad fans, they are hard to beat. A bit dated from Martin's liquid labs, but still a pretty good comparison:
Am I the only one who actually likes their beige and brown color fans?
Yeah okay it was someone else who made the point that these industrial fans were the epitome of function over form, but you were most definitely corroborating it, so I just kind of grouped you two together. So what? You're going to waste half the text of your post nitpicking that? Kay.
Now do you have more recent graphs comparing other offerings? And preferably not all from one source?
Go back and read. I posted two separate review sources. Not sure what exactly is causing your butt-hurt or why you need to cop an attitude. Was just sharing some of my own personal experience as I've been around the block a few times and have been building PC's since the late 80's. I like Noctua fans just fine - own a few myself. You mad bro? Need a hug or something?
Turning it off doesn't solve the issue of having to pay for something with gaudy features. It's not like a riced-out car where I can negotiate the price down by saying he can keep all the lighting.So what? Complaining about it is dumb. Turn it off if you don't want it. Period.
And for most people that's good enough. But you have to deal with the potential of pump failure and leakage. I suppose you could make the argument that heatpipes can leak, but the chances of that are even less.
Both of them can suffer from fan failure.
Another thing to consider is that people are sensitive to varying levels of noise. For some people (myself included) cannot or will not tolerate the additional noise.
Actually my Delta comment was the whole "throw noise concerns out the window". Back when I was younger, my computer was literally a cyclone.
I hadn't heard of the gentle typhoon 1850s until this thread. Looked it up, seems like there are concerns about the noise profile despite the incredible cfm to noise ratio.
In any case, that's one thing Noctua has going for it over all the other comparable (and arguably better?) contenders: they struck first and held onto their lead. They're basically the defacto standard when it comes to high quality silent cooling, regardless of whether or not that's still true.
Between choosing ole reliable over testing new fangled competing fans, that cost about the same, will only result in most choosing the former.
*Also supply is a big issue. Since Noctua was first to market, or close to, most places have stock.
Two sources, again, outdated... anyway...
I don't really know what necessitates this kind of attitude, here... my conduct wasn't exactly inciteful... like are you just a natural douche? I'll just block you either way, since I guess civilized conversation is impossible here.
Everything will be blacked out!
I remember when we all first started cutting holes in the sides of our cases to stick more and larger fans in them. Started with a single exhaust fan of 80mm, then it was a front intake + rear exhaust @ 80mm, then we cut a hole in the side and added another 80mm, then we moved up to 90mm, 120mm, 140mm, 200mm, Deltas moving 120cfm, etc.
Now I just want it to shut up and not let me know it's running at all. Same with RGB. Eventually the folk clamoring for it and blinging their stuff out with it will tire of the light show when they're trying to get work done and it'll all dry up.
Turning it off doesn't solve the issue of having to pay for something with gaudy features.
Since you're the one who is misunderstanding and I've gone out of my way to phrase it all number of different ways to make it easier on you... I'll let you show me the identical, non-RGB versions of motherboards. I can't speak for what's available on Intel's side, but I've not seen any on AMD's side.Show me anything that's more expensive due to RGB or doesn't have a non-RGB option/alternative? Are RGB fans more expensive? Eh, not really, but if they were there's a TON of fans without them. Same for everything else you're complaining about. High end motherboards with RGB are no cheaper than high end motherboards were before RGB.
So, again, you people being mad makes no sense. Either turn them off if they bug you and ignore them, continue buying products for the same price as they were before RGB, or buy products that DON'T have RGB.
What's the problem?
I'll let you show me the identical, non-RGB versions of motherboards.
Gentle Typhoons are actually another "old reliable" fan too, particularly in the watercooling community. I think they're older than any Noctua fans.
lmao If there are not two boards to compare price on, how, praytell, do you expect me to show you whether it impacts cost?? >_>Did you read what I said? High end motherboards now deploy RGB as standard, most of the time. Can you show me a high-end motherboard that's more EXPENSIVE due to RGB? If not then that means that motherboards, in this instance, fall under the "it has RGB that can be TURNED OFF if you don't want it but still cost the same as non-RGB" category. I mean this as "older chipset motherboards before RGB became more standard vs. newer chipset motherboards where RGB is standard".
No, I can't show you two of the same motherboards, one RGB one not RGB as they don't exist but the addition of RGB hasn't increased cost to you, the consumer.
So again, what's the problem?
Same experience here. Exactly the same.Having used a quality $100 AIO vs. an $85 Noctua D15, I will take the D15 all day long (and is what I am using). It is much quieter (silent really) and cools just as well.