No cursing rules on Cod4 servers.

FalseGod said:
The ones that get me are the ones that are overly sensitive about things like the fact that my name has "God" in it. I've been kick/banned from two servers already just because of my name. They wanted me to change the name I have been using for 15 years now, and I would not do it.
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same thing happened to me while playing COD4. i used to play under the name "furious retard" but i got kicked from a server because it offended the admin. i changed my name - not so i could play on that server but because i can understand why it was offensive. if i had a mentally challenged family member i probably would have been offended as well. plus my gf is a special ed teacher so i should have known better. she would have been offended too if i had told her that was my screen name.
 
In my old CS clan server, we had a no homosexual comments rule. Now you could say gay or other stuff as long as you werent specifically directing it at someone. "that was gay" was fine, but calling someone else a F** is not and would get you an hour ban.
I dont mine swearing rules liek that either, where its fine as long as your not over the top. LIke others said, swear your little heart out, then press your mic button.
 
I agree with the "If you dont like it start your own server or go somewhere else". I dont mind playing on those servers since it tends to cut down on the younger crowd that if they cant say "Fuck you N00b I owned you" they dont want to play there. I am mature enough I can refrain from typing cuss words and if you dont have your mic on push to talk its your fault. I will drop some bombs out loud when I am playing but not when I am on the mic on those servers. I can handle it. If you cant refrain from cussing where everyone can hear you then you might need to grow up a bit anyway
 
I figure that if you're so immature that you find it *burdenful* not to swear, I don't want you on the same server I'm playing on anyway.
 
I find it "burdenful" when people dont read a whole post or try to understand it, but like I said the no cussing servers tend to keep away the kids that like to spam shit talking all match that can be distracting. I obviously dont mind cussing but if you dont like a server then dont play there
 
kumquat said:
I figure that if you're so immature that you find it *burdenful* not to swear, I don't want you on the same server I'm playing on anyway.
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HAHAHA qft I liked that one, and full-heartedly agree :D

Method said:
I find it "burdenful" when people dont read a whole post or try to understand it, but like I said the no cussing servers tend to keep away the kids that like to spam shit talking all match that can be distracting. I obviously dont mind cussing but if you dont like a server then dont play there
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What makes you think he was directing that comment at you? Just because he posted after you?
 
turdhat said:
Ok, people will say " kids play on here !" Ok, so its ok for kids to blow up each other but cursing is out ? Isnt this a little backwards ?
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'No cursing' seems to keep out the kids, or at least the childish players anyway.
 
I prefer non swearing servers.
I dont enjoy listening or reading about how long some pre-pubesent teenages dick is. and how they want to **** my mom.

I'm fine what a shit here or a fuck there. but honestly its never like that. its all swearing or no swearing. So I just go with the non swearing servers to avoid the retards.

I'm a firm believer in "John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory"
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19
 
Method said:
I find it "burdenful" when people dont read a whole post or try to understand it, but like I said the no cussing servers tend to keep away the kids that like to spam shit talking all match that can be distracting. I obviously dont mind cussing but if you dont like a server then dont play there
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I believe we were agreeing with each other. My previous post was in no way directed at you :)

I was actually trying to restate exactly what you said in a clever way :p
 
turdhat said:
I am not one to curse much but I can not understand how a violent FPS like Cod4 could have so many prudes.. We are blowing each others brains all over the walls so there is no denying the game is very violent but you cant say F*&k ? Ok, death and violence is fine but foul language is just over the line ? Where the F*&k is the logic ? Ok, people will say " kids play on here !" Ok, so its ok for kids to blow up each other but cursing is out ? Isnt this a little backwards ?

Sigh !!
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I agree with you 100%! It's dumb rules like this that drove me to create the FPS Alliance. Me and my members agree with the things you've outlined here. At the moment we have one Crysis server up, it's number 1 in the U.S.. We are a new clan so this why we don't have boat loads of servers up. We are planning on putting up some more servers this month, at least 1 cod 4 server with that. If you're looking to join a clan with "forward thinking" members then feel free to join our ventrilo and get to know us:D

In regards to the non-cursing servers keeping the little kids out, I can't say that our Crysis server has issues with spammers, spamming is a bannable offense and people tend not to break the rules once they see that we DO enforce them.

http://fpsalliance.com/
FPS Alliance
 
Many servers that have and enforce a 'no profanity' rule do so because they consider themselves to be "family" servers. Parents do let their younger kids get in the game, and appreciate having servers with strict no profanity rules.

Another big reason for no-profanity servers is that when a player starts getting mad enough to start cussing over voicechat, things will frequently start to break down from there to the point where you have 2 or more players in a flamewar. Having and enforcing no-profanity helps go a ways towards preventing such hostilities, keeping the game environment fun for the rest of the players.
 
I use to play a lot on a CS:S server with a "gaming community" (They didn't didn't compete or play matches so they didn't use clan). It was a bit of an odd ball server where they wanted people to play a more strategic CS:S. Terroritsts had to stay with or near the hostiges etc. i.e. On Office map, T had to stay IN the building. I found it a nicer place to play and liked the people. Also there wasn't a lot of random chaos that CS:S can turn into. Players who didn't follow the rules got kicked. The MOD explained the server and people don't read those of course and they get kicked.

But its their server if you don't like it go somewhere else. I like no cursing servers, or rather the "litte to no cursing" servers. I don't mind the occasional "FUCKING SHIT" right after someone gets pwnd like a noob. But when thats all you hear over V.chat it gets very very old very very quickly. But if you dno't like a servers rules, their actions, LEAVE. If you come to my house and I tell you to set your drink on a coaster and you dont' like it LEAVE. It's not your house, and it's not your server. (I don't ask people to set drinks on a coaster BTW)
 
Any kid who is too sensitive to see profanities on text buffer is too sensitive to virtually headshot human beings in the game. Period.

Those restrictions are simply lame PC crap or boosting the admins ego when he gets excuses to boot people. There's a thing called 'power rush' which happens very easily to some people online.
 
People who pay for hosting of a server, or host their own server at their own expense are rightly entitled to impose whatever rules they please.

There are plenty of servers, find ones you prefer and stick with them.

Just for the record I think it's equally as stupid to limit strong language on a server for a game where you're shooting bullets through opponents heads and splattering brains all over the wall.
 
I think it's fantastic that so many people believe that just because a game has some sort of simulated violence it instantly enables them to swear and cuss their heads off. Where do you get the correlation between the two? For one thing, it's not real violence, and it's not even gory. The swearing is real, and I don't think it's a matter of being a prude. The swearing isn't originally part of the game, so why should you feel the need to add it in?

I personally prefer to play on strictly moderated servers with no swearing rules. Why? Simply because there is little to no happy medium. I don't mind swearing in the least, but I do mind stupid little children who think that dropping N-Bombs and F-Bombs constantly is cool. I play this game to have fun, not have to put up with a bunch of little idiots who think that sort of behaviour is cool. Not only that, but in my experience the type of people who constantly swear are also the ones who think that racial and homophobic slurs are part and parcel of that as well.

I've played online games for years. I've ran guilds and clans in various MMO's and FPS's. The one rule I have always strictly enforced is that people keep swearing to a minimum. I've had some really really good players in all of these games that I've had to kick out because they didn't understand that.

At the end of the day it all comes down to maturity.
 
Revenicus said:
Know what it comes down to?

violence in COD4 is fake. swearing is real, you cant fake it.. I'll elaborate.

Most people who play violent video games are not phased by it. People know its fake, and its just fun. Now certain swear words just offend people because of the way their grew up and/or their lifestyle. You can't fake a swear word, the way the sound of it gets translated by your brain just offends people.

I swear like a sailor when I play video games, but I never do when elderly people are present because most of them get offended by it.

Now on the other hand if people are not phased by brutal REAL violence but offended by swearing, now that's screwed up.
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Porn is fake sex, so does that mean we should watch it and not take it as sex just because we know its fake? :D
 
the last time i watched porn it sure looked to me like they were doing it but i digress. i dont care about the swearing thing. i never pay attention to the chat and always disable voice anyway.
 
Meh, this country is turning into a sad little place where we're afraid of words and bunch of little women where we live to catch others in verbal miscues.

And in games, every online game is properly rated, you can leave, you can mute people, you can act like a human being and not a moral general and ignore it...
 
FalseGod said:
I don't mind no cursing either, because I barely talk when I'm fragging anyway. If something is directed at me I will respond, or the occassional "nice" or "lol", but I don't get on a server to have an irc conversation or spam binds.

The ones that get me are the ones that are overly sensitive about things like the fact that my name has "God" in it. I've been kick/banned from two servers already just because of my name. They wanted me to change the name I have been using for 15 years now, and I would not do it.

So stay away from Snake and Snot's House of Fun [HOF] server if you don't like this kind of ridiculous stuff.

Luckily there are tons of other servers out there to play on, but it's annoying that a well behaved mature player has to deal with this kind of crap just trying to relax getting some fragging going in an M rated game.

I played Quake from day one through Quake 4 and have NEVER had a problem with this type of thing. The community in COD and apparently other similar games leaves a lot to be desired sometimes compared to a mature one like Quake.
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Yes, luckily for you there are thousands upon thousands of servers to play on. Unfortunately, none are as good as Snake and Snots HOF servers. Actually, you DID change your name to something like "God is Fake" or something. I don't remember what it was exactly. HOF is a COD community that has chosen to host a few public servers. They set up the rules for the servers based on the rules of the community. It's a light hearted, family oriented environment where all it meant to be in good fun. When someone has an offensive, vulgar, or obscene name, they are always asked to change their name if they would like to play on the server. Some choose not to and they leave to go play on another server.

Others, like you, choose not to, then choose to have an attitude, then choose to be an ass about it and end up kicked and/or banned. You say you're a mature player. You didn't execute any level of maturity on the HOF server. You could have said "fine" and left. But no.
I understand you not wanting to change your name since you've had it or a long time. That's your right. As owners of the HOF servers, the admins have a right to set up whatever rules they choose to use and kick and ban those who choose not to follow them.
Why the no cursing or bad names?
Say someone is playing and they have their speakers on. They might have kids in the room and suddenly their kids here "f you f that f this" blah blah blah. Next thing you know, those kids are at school getting in trouble for using those sorts of words.
While it's an "M" rated game, some people do let kids play the game. While letting their kids may be pushing the line, it's definitely over the line when they join a server just to hear vulgar language being thrown around or reading an obscene name being used.
While I wouldn't have personally had a problem with "FalseGod", some more devout religious types apparently did.


- [HOF]Ub3rn00b
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dterror said:
Many servers that have and enforce a 'no profanity' rule do so because they consider themselves to be "family" servers. Parents do let their younger kids get in the game, and appreciate having servers with strict no profanity rules.

Another big reason for no-profanity servers is that when a player starts getting mad enough to start cussing over voicechat, things will frequently start to break down from there to the point where you have 2 or more players in a flamewar. Having and enforcing no-profanity helps go a ways towards preventing such hostilities, keeping the game environment fun for the rest of the players.
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Voice chat is a TOTALLY different story, if soemone is yelling over voip they're gone, doesn't matter what they say. I just got in to CoD 4 so I don't know what the player base is like, maybe I'll find out soon and dislike the game.
 
JesseV1.0 said:
Voice chat is a TOTALLY different story, if soemone is yelling over voip they're gone, doesn't matter what they say. I just got in to CoD 4 so I don't know what the player base is like, maybe I'll find out soon and dislike the game.
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You're welcome to check out Snake and Snots House of Fun servers. There are 2 DM servers and 1 team server.
 
Ub3rn00b said:
Yes, luckily for you there are thousands upon thousands of servers to play on. Unfortunately, none are as good as Snake and Snots HOF servers. Actually, you DID change your name to something like "God is Fake" or something. I don't remember what it was exactly. HOF is a COD community that has chosen to host a few public servers. They set up the rules for the servers based on the rules of the community. It's a light hearted, family oriented environment where all it meant to be in good fun. When someone has an offensive, vulgar, or obscene name, they are always asked to change their name if they would like to play on the server. Some choose not to and they leave to go play on another server.

Others, like you, choose not to, then choose to have an attitude, then choose to be an ass about it and end up kicked and/or banned. You say you're a mature player. You didn't execute any level of maturity on the HOF server. You could have said "fine" and left. But no.
I understand you not wanting to change your name since you've had it or a long time. That's your right. As owners of the HOF servers, the admins have a right to set up whatever rules they choose to use and kick and ban those who choose not to follow them.
Why the no cursing or bad names?
Say someone is playing and they have their speakers on. They might have kids in the room and suddenly their kids here "f you f that f this" blah blah blah. Next thing you know, those kids are at school getting in trouble for using those sorts of words.
While it's an "M" rated game, some people do let kids play the game. While letting their kids may be pushing the line, it's definitely over the line when they join a server just to hear vulgar language being thrown around or reading an obscene name being used.
While I wouldn't have personally had a problem with "FalseGod", some more devout religious types apparently did.


- [HOF]Ub3rn00b
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No, I have set my name in COD4 exactly ONE time. I have never changed it and never changed it to "God is Fake" for sure. I would never do that because the meaning of my name actually has nothing to with those words, and is not a statement on the existence of God at all. People just assume that without even asking me typically. You have to be thinking of someone else on that matter. I came on, never said a word to anyone (Other than to tell ToeCutter once that I was NOT going to change my name) and just worked on getting my levels. I don't curse and I don't talk trash during games. I am fine with no swearing servers at all. That does not affect me, because as I said, I do not really talk when I am online. I am there to play and that's it. All I was trying to do was get some FFA in and work on getting my challenges completed. I never bothered anyone and actually did say fine inside my head and just left the last time that Snot bugged me about my name and I have never gone back since. Getting harassed by admins while I'm just trying to get a mindless frag on is not my idea of fun.

And I disagree with you, there are thousands of others that are just as good as HOF's server. This one only merited mentioning because it related to this thread.
 
FalseGod said:
No, I have set my name in COD4 exactly ONE time. I have never changed it and never changed it to "God is Fake" for sure. I would never do that because the meaning of my name actually has nothing to with those words, and is not a statement on the existence of God at all. People just assume that without even asking me typically. You have to be thinking of someone else on that matter. I came on, never said a word to anyone (Other than to tell ToeCutter once that I was NOT going to change my name) and just worked on getting my levels. I don't curse and I don't talk trash during games. I am fine with no swearing servers at all. That does not affect me, because as I said, I do not really talk when I am online. I am there to play and that's it. All I was trying to do was get some FFA in and work on getting my challenges completed. I never bothered anyone and actually did say fine inside my head and just left the last time that Snot bugged me about my name and I have never gone back since. Getting harassed by admins while I'm just trying to get a mindless frag on is not my idea of fun.

And I disagree with you, there are thousands of others that are just as good as HOF's server. This one only merited mentioning because it related to this thread.
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I do apologize to you then. I was in fact thinking of someone else. It was a guy named "God is hate" and someone asked him to change his name and he changed it to "God is love" and then the admin who asked him to change it left the game and then he changed his name to something else worse than "god is hate" but can't remember what it was.

Snot is actually one of the co-owners of the servers. He's like the admin of the admins so if he feels strongly about something, it's a good idea to do what he says if you want to stick around and play on the server ;)

I'm glad you weren't one of the banned players though. You seem like a decent guy that just wants to play and have a good time. Some people do get offended easily but I'm not one of them personally. If someone expresses to me that they are offended about something, I will take it on a case by case basis. Personally, if I'm on the server and you want to play on it, I have no problem with that. My xfire is ub3rnoobee if you use xfire and want to add me. I wouldn't mind playing together on another server sometime either ;)

Yes there are other good servers out there. I play Domination and a few other game modes on them. Some hardcore 'n whatnot that aren't configured on the HOF servers.
Well anyway, enjoy!
 
Im all for it. I detest when smucks do nothing but cuss every other word. I dont cuss, and dont want to hear it from someone I dont know, cussing me out. Because I guarantee they wouldnt do it in real life.
 
Heh a couple things stuck out: Your kids are thoughtpoliced at school i.e. getting in trouble for saying a profanity? LOL! Don't you think that by the time your kids turn 10 they already know every profanity in the book through friends? I know I did. I didn't need internet games to teach me those.

And to the guy who said 'simulated gore is not real, words are real' ROOFFLLMUHAHAAHA!! Words are real OMG get a grip they're just words! A profanity is a profanity only because it's stuck to your brain through cultural conditioning of your PC society.

This is a fact.

As a sidenote IMO voice is a totally useless thing in FPS games. There's nothing more annoying than hearing some monkey moaning on voice in the middle of a good game.
 
Worst server I ever visited was "AcesnEights" or something like that. I would get warned if I typed "damn" or "kickass". Admin sucked ass too, banning people left and right and bitching about how the players need to appreciate what they do for them. The whole admin blew ass at the game, btw. If you would own them bad enough, they would kick you.

Curse words like "f*ck" and "sh*t" I can understand as they can be offensive for some, but not allowing "damn", "kickass", and other such mild forms of expression is just too conservative.
 
I know I'm probably going to strike a few nerves here but what really pisses me off is seeing christian Halo servers, christial CoD4 servers, christian CS servers etc. And I ask why do they play violent games if they generally speaking preach non violence and they always have something stupid to say.
 
w3tw1lly said:
I know I'm probably going to strike a few nerves here but what really pisses me off is seeing christian Halo servers, christial CoD4 servers, christian CS servers etc. And I ask why do they play violent games if they generally speaking preach non violence and they always have something stupid to say.
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Maybe, but how many people who play these games ACTUALLY go out and shoot terrorists or kill aliens after?? Hmm... Also going along with fallguy's comment, it's true, people feel they can be the biggest assholes on the internet just because there are no reprecussions, nobody is going to actually beat them up after they've ran their mouth off. Adolescent pricks are able to feel big and tough.

So for the most part, video games are there for enjoyment, not actually to live out killing fantasies. At least they should be. That's probably why I don't tend to play the more... disgusting games :eek:

BTW, christian or not, I would say 90% of professed "Christians" are still willing to join the army, so playing a violent video game isn't exactly all that bad to most :eek:
 
It's their server, so it's their rules.
Don't mind non swearing rules on servers because I don't curse much.
For the most part I believe the no swearing rules are to warn those with infantile minds that; "f..... bastard, you f.. hacker, you f..... killed me, I f..... shot you first, you f....cheater. etc." is not acceptable . Some admins take it too far sometimes but well, see the first sentence of my post.
 
Hey that's a cool idea make a muslim COD4 server where each round starts with bowing to mecca and you can only use knife kills (beheading) and carbombs. :D
 
w3tw1lly said:
I know I'm probably going to strike a few nerves here but what really pisses me off is seeing christian Halo servers, christial CoD4 servers, christian CS servers etc. And I ask why do they play violent games if they generally speaking preach non violence and they always have something stupid to say.
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Other than violence, other poor self control behavior isn't required to play the game.
 
Well it doesn't mean they will go and do something but someone who promotes non-violence should start by not partaking in simulations (to some degree). You are watching peoples blood spray all over walls. I just don't think it's normal. I have nothing against Christians so I hope I'm not offending anyone. I myself used to go to church. The thing that makes me mad though mostly is how smart they get when I ask about it. I'm not being snarky when I ask them either. I'll just be asking and some will be like "EVER HEARD OF THE CRUSADES WOW UR DUMB".
 
I'm with the people who think in games rated "M" for MATURE (ie, it's illegal for kids to buy them) people should be mature. I don't swear constantly or get pissed off over a game like some people, but I do say the F and S word from time to time. I like servers where you're allowed to swear as long as you don't overdo it or spam the voice chat and so on.

If you're an incompetent, irresponsible parent or if you have incompetent, irresponsible parents, that's your problem and you shouldn't push that onto other people who know better. If you allow your underage kids to play games where you can blow people's brains onto walls but you're outraged if you hear "fuck" online, you've got problems. Killing people will always be worse than swearing.
 
I hate servers that have a strict no-swearing policy and ban/kick people for saying a curse word. I do not like to play on them and leave generally if it's like that.

Now at the same time, I understand people not wanting to have constant swearing and some 12yr old kid who thinks it's "cool" to swear every little word they say.

Personally, I think most servers can do just fine with allowing swearing, but having an excessive use policy.

I mean when something happens in the game that's extreme/unordinary and you just let out a "fuck/shit" I do not see why on earth that should make anyone upset. It happens.
 
This also pisses me off, im sitting here playing and i get killed by a cheap kill and i get pissed off so i type shit and they are like watch ur mouth(the admins), so i say last time i checked the game is rated M for STRONG language and i get kicked, i agree that they are trying to keep a good environment but if they want it to be realistic( i play on hardcore realism servers) you should be able to swear cuz in RL i dont think you hear people saying nice words when there faces are about the be melted.
 
Why swear in them anyway? Isnt the point to play the game, not chat?

I play in a no swearing server almost every night and I have no problem. Sure I curse in real life, not in the game. If im typing, it is to let them know this objective is clear, watch here, im over here, etc. It does keep most of the rif raff out though which is welcomed.

One guy in the server told the admin 'Sorry it slipped'. Interesting..How do you slip when typing? Cant you see what your typing and backspace it? Made me lol.
 
The people who tend to curse uncontrollably and excessively to the point that their teammates just want to team kill them are generally very bad mannered little kids trying to be internet bad-asses. Most sensible server admins don't want that type playing on their servers.

However, you can't just make a vague or half-assed cursing rule like, "No excessive cursing" and the like; that just leaves a lot of grey area for people to be dicks and argue about the system. What's too much? One swear word per paragraph? One per sentence? Two per sentence? Does context matter? Are you applying your rule equally and unbiased towards everyone on your server? Would any of you really like to answer those questions and make judgment calls constantly or would you rather just set a hard rule and play the game?
 
Neurofreeze said:
The people who tend to curse uncontrollably and excessively to the point that their teammates just want to team kill them are generally very bad mannered little kids trying to be internet bad-asses. Most sensible server admins don't want that type playing on their servers.

However, you can't just make a vague or half-assed cursing rule like, "No excessive cursing" and the like; that just leaves a lot of grey area for people to be dicks and argue about the system. What's too much? One swear word per paragraph? One per sentence? Two per sentence? Does context matter? Are you applying your rule equally and unbiased towards everyone on your server? Would any of you really like to answer those questions and make judgment calls constantly or would you rather just set a hard rule and play the game?
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I'd rather hope/wish people would have enough common sense to know that "excessive" applies to mostly the people who utter a curse word every single time they talk and not the people who just randomly let one fly once in a while.

It's not really that hard to relate the difference between normal use and excessive "potty mouth" style cursing.
 
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