It looks like the 400 series is going to have to carry the load for the next 9 to 15 months.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idCNN2010933420100921?rpc=44
http://www.reuters.com/article/idCNN2010933420100921?rpc=44
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But you'd also have to be an idiot to think that said refresh will offer something significantly more powerful than what will already be on the market when that refresh arrives.You'd have to be an idiot to think there is not going to be a refresh between now and then..
But you'd also have to be an idiot to think that said refresh will offer something significantly more powerful than what will already be on the market when that refresh arrives.
Nvidia is a generation behind, we've known this for a year now.
Nvidia is getting their ass kicked by an old piece of mold.Actually AMD is still using the moldy old R600 core.
But you'd also have to be an idiot to think that said refresh will offer something significantly more powerful than what will already be on the market when that refresh arrives.
§kynet;1036206457 said:Nvidia is getting their ass kicked by an old piece of mold.
Actually AMD is still using the moldy old R600 core. You know the one that brought us the legendary HD2900.
Looks like the first HD6000 won't be impressing anyone either
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1547183
i do not see anything that backs up your claim. do not believe everything on the interwebs and please do some real research.... god
"3 to 4 times" faster is an awfully vague statement by Huang for a card that isn't even close to being done yet. 12-15 months is probably optimistic, there is always problems going to a smaller dye.
Perhaps he means 3 to 4 times the wooden screws!
If they could have, they would have released one by now. Or what do you actually think that selling a crippled chip with functional units disabled because of bad yields is good business sense? Yeah that must be it, they are going to surprise everyone and anytime they will release a fully functional 512 shader gtx480...LOL. Next thing people are going to say is they purposely delayed the gtx480 to release it after the Christmas buying season when it was supposed to come out to March right?Really? You don't think NVIDIA will release a fully operational Fermi... ever? Doesn't sound that far fetched to me.
Yeah it is. Just because it wins a few benchmarks and a subset of the already small enthusiasts market are jerking off to that does not mean it wins in the market. Speaking conservatively the ratio of 5870's to 480s should be at least 3:1. If we count GF100 to Cypress chip based products the ratio is 4:1Derp. Yea, the 5870 is totally kicking the 480's butt.
I'm an NVIDIA fan (but not a blind one) and haven't bought any 400 series cards.....same for alot of people. Nothing more needs to be said....
3-4 times faster in a year? lol wtf is he smokin
The fact that everyone is talking about the HD6000 is aggravating in and of itself.
All anyone says is BETTER and FASTER and JUST KEEP WAITING, justifying their claims without a single reliable source.
Something new is coming. We know that. That is all we know. You either play the waiting game or you don't. We aren't talking about a new CPU socket, here.
Yup, they aren't able to do a shrink like G92/G80 so I dunno what options are out there to make something appealing to counter the 6xxx series. The fact there are no mention of the refresh besides "a refresh is coming" doesn't exactly tweak me to something exciting, you'd think they would have it ready to go already to counter what is coming in October. I honestly don't see anything much different besides a possible dual gf104 card, which has been mostly a fanboy creation/dream imo. In any case it will be interesting what happens in October, if there is no mention of this so called refresh at the same time or shortly after the 6xxx series I know what product I'm pulling the plug on.
Actually AMD is still using the moldy old R600 core. You know the one that brought us the legendary HD2900.
Looks like the first HD6000 won't be impressing anyone either
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1547183
Similar performance perhaps with a nice helping of extra power bill and extra power bill so the AC and push that extra heat out.
The ole "AMD Drivers suck" BS again. I have gone many upgrades with not a single showstopper issue.
As for whoever takes crowns. The only one that matters is Yield and binning. If you cant get good yields and good binning to put superior silicon into top end models it matters not. As he who rules the yield rules the mid to lower end segments and thus the market.
And AMD is in the same boat, trying to get more performance out of the same process. Unless you're trying to say they have some magical process which doesn't exist yet anywhere...
They didn't list the 2008's 9xxx refresh so not mentioning one on that slide doesn't mean anything. The 465/70/80 cards all suffered from nVidia missing a major engineering problem with the TSMC 40nm process until too late in the game. The more recent 450/460 launches show that they've updated their designs to cope which leaves room for a significantly improved top level chip to be released after the refresh.
You post this in every. Damn. Thread.With the sad state of affairs of AMD's driver dept, I am actually anticipating that tri-SLI GTX 480s will keep the multi-core/card crown.
But AMD's already burned a bridge to me with their GSOD fiasco. Not even considering risking that failboat
AMD has 28nm gloflo. So for the first time in a great deal of time they are not dependent on TSMC. THAT is going to be what shatters any efficiency gains Nvidia makes.
Magic? No but AMD is claiming some 100 percents on complex test patterns a while ago.
(Before some fanboi mentions their 32nm issues be aware that is a COMPLETELY different process. Made for CPUs and APUs. And is not expected to delay them very long 28nm is going well)