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Trinitrotoluene said:do they autonotify you when they stop sucking so hard?
No wai! Newegg is the worst company evar! Newegg must die a thousand deaths! I'm going to go listen to My Chemical Romance and kill myself now!!!InorganicMatter said:Meh, what can you say? They're Newegg!
Oh yeah, and:
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sirholio said:Have any of you been watching the pricing of these processors on newegg at all? over the last couple days they've been at normal levels, and this obviously absurd price will not stay the same. I don't honestly see how people can think that this is a problem.... wait till they're back in stock again and it'll drop to the usual price. Not a difficult thing.
Core 2 Extreme X6800 4 MB L2 2.93GHz 1066 MHz $999
Core 2 Duo E6700 4 MB L2 2.66 GHz 1066 MHz $530
Core 2 Duo E6600 4 MB L2 2.40 GHz 1066 MHz $316
Core 2 Duo E6400 2 MB L2 2.13 GHz 1066 MHz $224
Core 2 Duo E6300 2 MB L2 1.86 GHz 1066 MHz $183
ok, so I read 66 as 64 for some reason, but the point still stands. they're not in stock, and haven't been. this isn't their real selling price... it'll drop. get over it. the ones they have are a little more than that, but not awefully priced.
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Donnie27 said:I don't want to make excuses for Newegg but this is BS! Crap loads of folks ran falling over eachother to buy 3800+'s that sold for barely $15 less than that. Many even bragged about buying 4600+ for $644 , geesh are these now double standards?
E6600 is a better deal that the FX62
FX-62
SO is it Newegg or AMD who's greedy?
Sure Newegg is Greedy. If you don't like it be a smart shopper and shop elsewhere, don't just sit here and bitch about Newegg! I ended up getting an E6400 for a whole $17 cheaper than what Newegg listed, big deal.
ToastMaster said:I don't get why people think that just because an E6600 (hell, the E6400) can outperform the FX-62, that AMD should make it a bargain-bin processor selling for like $200. Would it be nice if the price was lower? Yes. But remember, yields of processors such as the FX62 are likely low to begin with, and the fact that even before Conroe, a very small % of people, easily less than 1% of the overall computer buying market, were looking to buy one, means that AMD has no real reason to sharply cut the price, and thus take a loss or break even on it.
I mean, use the same arguement then against the X6800 costing $1000. Why? Because Intel doesn't produce nearly as many as they do the other Core 2 Duos, so they can demand a premium, especially when even with the X6800, it's a small % of the Core 2 Duo-buying public.
dark_reign said:I'm getting really tired of these "Newegg are greedy bastards" threads.
Low supply + high demand = insanely high prices. Everybody who is selling C2D is getting in on it and why not? It makes perfect sense.
Tutelary said:Remember that next time you snag the last loaf of bread at the grocery store. The mentality involved in such a pricing being "ok" is morally wrong. The "take em for everything they have" crap is a post-internet phenomenon that society is now tolerating where as before people attempting such things were generally shamed into stopping. I dont want to live in a world where if there are 5 things on a shelf and I buy one, the price for the next person goes up.
Stop making excuses for greed.
dark_reign said:Bread isn't in short supply. It's also a food item, unlike a CPU which is a luxury.
This is just plainly not true. I have bought two or three things from Newegg in the past year due to them having the best price. They may not always have the best price like they used to, but it's more of a fair game now with other sites like zzf and monarch in the game.SixFootDuo said:I think a lot of people are starting to look else where for the best deals. Newegg has good customer service but the best price? No, it's clear the don't and that they haven't for a long time.
They are getting to be the highest priced now, not the cheapest.
Really sad to see
Tutelary said:Through the day as people are buying your supply decreases. With digital shelf tags (yes these exist now) and a wifi system and good inventory, a store could easily charge each person more for bread throughout the day as onhand supply decreases.
Saying its ok for one class of item will invariably lead to it being ok for another.
ToastMaster said:I don't get why people think that just because an E6600 (hell, the E6400) can outperform the FX-62, that AMD should make it a bargain-bin processor selling for like $200. Would it be nice if the price was lower? Yes. But remember, yields of processors such as the FX62 are likely low to begin with, and the fact that even before Conroe, a very small % of people, easily less than 1% of the overall computer buying market, were looking to buy one, means that AMD has no real reason to sharply cut the price, and thus take a loss or break even on it.
I mean, use the same arguement then against the X6800 costing $1000. Why? Because Intel doesn't produce nearly as many as they do the other Core 2 Duos, so they can demand a premium, especially when even with the X6800, it's a small % of the Core 2 Duo-buying public.
jebo_4jc said:This is just plainly not true. I have bought two or three things from Newegg in the past year due to them having the best price. They may not always have the best price like they used to, but it's more of a fair game now with other sites like zzf and monarch in the game.
No one needs Conroe the day it comes out. Newegg would have to answer to Intel if they had such a high markup that the units wouldn't sell. Let the bleeding edge fanatics take the hit on the crazy prices and hold your horses.Tutelary said:Remember that next time you snag the last loaf of bread at the grocery store. The mentality involved in such a pricing being "ok" is morally wrong. The "take em for everything they have" crap is a post-internet phenomenon that society is now tolerating where as before people attempting such things were generally shamed into stopping. I dont want to live in a world where if there are 5 things on a shelf and I buy one, the price for the next person goes up.
Stop making excuses for greed.
so many drama queens pouring out over Conroe latelySixFootDuo said:I think a lot of people are starting to look else where for the best deals. Newegg has good customer service but the best price? No, it's clear the don't and that they haven't for a long time.
They are getting to be the highest priced now, not the cheapest.
Really sad to see
Donnie27 said:I would easily make the same arguement against the X6800 BTW. Followed closely by the 6700. No matter how low the yields are or whatever, FX-62 is overpriced=P AMD justified the prices by saying; "We price our products according to performance" and then they talked about how they compared their processors to their competition and etc... Now that's come back to bite them on the @$$! Its price DOSEN'T reflect its value according to AMD. Not what Donnie27 or anyone else says.
Oh and that changed when the high Volume Yonah, Presler and Cedar Mill launched These killed that large performance lead X2's once had long before Conroe launched. I know many AMD leaning folks maybe think X2 and A64 are great, blows them away but the rest of the market clearly disagrees. That's why Intel took back market share in the second Quarter even before the 3rd quarter price cuts. Conroe isn't the only thing Intel has.
WATYF said:<insert socialist utopian rebuttal to economics argument>
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Tutelary said:Remember that next time you snag the last loaf of bread at the grocery store. The mentality involved in such a pricing being "ok" is morally wrong. The "take em for everything they have" crap is a post-internet phenomenon that society is now tolerating where as before people attempting such things were generally shamed into stopping. I dont want to live in a world where if there are 5 things on a shelf and I buy one, the price for the next person goes up.
Stop making excuses for greed.
CRXican said:so many drama queens pouring out over Conroe lately
Newegg does have the best customer service and I'd rather pay a minimal price premium to know my item will ship next day and that if there is a problem they will fix it.
Have you read any of the Monarch threads lately? Go save your $50 but don't come back to complain when your item doesn't ship for at least a week.
WATYF said:Hey.. that didn't take long.
btw... "supply" isn't the same as "inventory". And "food" isn't the same as a completely optional luxury item that can be priced however the seller wants to price it (since no one has to buy it). Your argument is fundamentally flawed.
WATYF
Come on, what's a $100 price difference when you're buying hardware that just came out?ToastMaster said:Considering Newegg doesn't even have most of them in, I'd say that "atleast one week" shipping time for Monarch isn't that big of a deal.
And I love Newegg - but come on, a $459 listed price on what should be a roughly $320-350 part, is more than just a "minimal price premium".
ToastMaster said:And I'm considering buying an E6700 too
But Intel was taking back market share not because of performance, but because they simply had considerably cheaper dual-cores. Right now, the average consumer may be able to slightly why dual core is better than a single core. Even if they don't understand the actual difference, they know that two processors has to be greater 1 processor, and so if they can get a dirt-cheap dual processor system, they won't care who makes it. Now, the fact that these cheap systems carry the Intel name, is all the better.
The average consumer doesn't care if the computer lists it as Core Duo, Core 2 Duo, Pentium 4/D, Athlon 64, Athlon 64 X2, etc. They just want it to work. So whatever is cheapest and works, works for them.
Oh, and the low-model X2s are actually great deals now I'd say.
No, they won't... and this current episode proves it. I just bought my E6600 yesterday for 100 dollars less than NewEgg was charging. Did it affect me in any way that NewEgg priced their product so high? Did I care, or shed a tear over the fact that NewEgg made that decision? No. Not at all.DarkSi said:I do agree with you, but I also agree with him, to a point. He is right, in this day and age, companies don't care. If one product can go for 2x its MSRP, other companies WILL start overcharging if supply becomes short.
This is exactly how it should be. It costs more to provide great service. And its worth more to get great service, so prices should be higher. I used to pricewatch all my components, way back in the day, when I first started building my own machines. Then I found NewEgg. Yeah... they werent always the cheapest. Sometimes a good bit more... but I never had to worry about getting screwed on shipping, or my part never showing up, or having a billing dispute... and that was worth the extra money to me. NewEgg should be taking advantage of their great service and charging more for it. And if another etailer comes along with service thats as good, or better, and they charge less than NewEgg... then NewEgg will drop their prices to stay competitive. Thats how the free market works... it will level itself out like it always does, and this current scenario will just serve as an example of that.DarkSi said:People aren't necessarily complaining because Newegg's prices are high - it's the fact that they're taking advantage of their known reputation for good customer service. They know that, if they sell it for $50 more than another site, people will still buy it from them. Unfortunately for Newegg, people won't deal with that for very long.
DarkSi said:I do agree with you, but I also agree with him, to a point. He is right, in this day and age, companies don't care. If one product can go for 2x its MSRP, other companies WILL start overcharging if supply becomes short.
On a typical day at the grocery store? Not feasable. People will just go elsewhere. But think about when you go to the store the day before a huge snow storm, or something like that, and there's no bread or milk, because somehow people think that 'this time' they might not get out of their house for a month. Grocery stores COULD make a killing on days like that, they just don't.
I never expected to get a Conroe for retail near the launch date. It's companies like Newegg and Mwave that are charging almost double the MSRP for some of the chips that gets ridiculous.
And, too the people talking about how 'Newegg won't cater to the whiners, etc...' - Isn't Newegg typically known for their great customer service? Doubling the retail price on something because they don't have many of them really goes against that. It has nothing to do with the price, it's the 'bend over if you want one' attitude that they have with the Conroe.
People aren't necessarily complaining because Newegg's prices are high - it's the fact that they're taking advantage of their known reputation for good customer service. They know that, if they sell it for $50 more than another site, people will still buy it from them. Unfortunately for Newegg, people won't deal with that for very long.
Threads like this may be annoying, but the people posting them are just the ones who have already awoken to see that they're blatantly taking advantage.