WorldExclusive
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This is something I've been wondering about. I suspect the FT02 combined w/ a GPU that uses a beefy heatsink (vs the ducted shrouds we see on the ATI/Nvidia reference designs) throws down some nice acoustical and thermal performance. I'd like to see a vid card heatsink that uses at least a single 120mm fan, and if given the right design, a pair of 'em.Internally the gpus are getting the coolest air they would ever get inside of a case; the only way they'd be any cooler is if they were running shroudless on a test bench/open air setup.
BTW- anyone gotten their hands on a silver FT02 yet? Maybe w/ pics of an installed system? I really like the sIlver exterior, but the interior is kinda fugly w/ all the black plastic bits. Curious to see what it looks like.
Ask and you shall receive.
What to see a Silver FT02?
How about this. What to see a Silver FT02 with a Lian Li bezel mod tutorial?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyAfvtjrfq0
This is not my rig but it's Very Nice.
I really like the silver but the lack of an S-W is really disappointing.
I skimmed through that video to finally see some sort of shot of the bezel. Looks good. I take it he just hot glued it to the drive? (skipping around at one point I saw what looked like a hot glue gun) Don't understand why the guy couldn't have just took a few pictures and posted [stock photo of a hot glue gun] + [stock photo of a silver LL bezel] = [his photos], but whatever.
I contacted SS and got a reply about getting a replacement window, and filled out the RMA request but haven't heard anything back yet. Guess I'm really not counting on much; if it shows up, it shows up...if it doesn't, it doesn't.
I rather mod the side panel anyways. That way it can be flush with the case. It will add to the cost but I think it's worth it.
How do you plan to mod the plexi to sit flush??? Just wondering cuz i was going to do the same, but have never done it before.
Thanks for that link WorldEx, and I'd definitely love to see pics of your case mtbush. LOTS OF PICS!
That dude spent almost the whole video talking instead simply showing us the case, but hey, gotta cut the guy some slack since he's German yet spoke English throughout making the blurry low-rez more bearable. And once he got off his ass and showed us the front panel w/ his bezel mod, DAMN if that case doesn't look sexy. No closeups tho? argh...
I like the interior of the black versions better, but the silver models have the far superior looking exterior to my eyes.
Yeah, you have to hold your breath to the end but when he turns the case around, WOW.
For the window, just cut the shape you want or take it to a professional fabricator, make sure the edges are smooth and mount the window with 3M tape. Done. You can buy a window here, they do custom cuts.
www.delviesplastics.com
yennie - Yeah I saw your post, that is disappointing.
GL guys on modding a flush window.
Easier than you think. Acrylic does not cut or drill well, trust me. I've used it before and I've drilled large and small holes for acrylic tops on arcade joystics... plastic is a major PITA to get anything to work with without melting or cracking/shattering.
Like I said already, the hot air recirculation is not an issue; it does happen
However, I still say that the dust filtering in the FT02 is very poor design.
A better design, as WorldExclusive has already pointed out, would be to ditch the plastic trays and place the filters underneath the case. They could even be held in place with small magnets for easy removal.
1. It keeps the dust out of the case. Instead of trapping it in a 1" high defective tray, it is out of the case.
2. It gives plenty more room for longer graphics cards, like the 5970 now that the fans are at least 1" lower.
3. It allows us to mount whatever fan we want instead of being confined to 180mm with these silly trays.
4. It saves money because, again, they don't need to make the trays anymore.
Heck, the 140mm fan could even be mounted underneath the case! That would be pretty sick.
This is empirical evidence and doesn't really mean much. It's like when one person says a case is "quiet" and another calls it "loud". Unless you have hard numbers from a dB meter, the definitions are blurred.I get no dust inside of my case therefore I would not call it a poor design.
...there are cases with no filters and dust protection. Clearly the FT02 and RV02 are better than those. However, for $230 I would expect a better design when it comes to dust. In 6 months, open up your case and you will find dust.
Regarding dust, how long have you been using your case?
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However, for $230 I would expect a better design when it comes to dust. In 6 months, open up your case and you will find dust. While it will be less dust than other cases with no filters, it clearly could have been a lot less given a better filter design.
This is empirical evidence and doesn't really mean much. It's like when one person says a case is "quiet" and another calls it "loud". Unless you have hard numbers from a dB meter, the definitions are blurred.
Take my experience for what it is. I share it as a counter-argument that the dust filtering in this case is poorly designed.
Did you even see the ft01? Please explain to me why the upper intake fan filter removal was an utter joke and ridiculed by reviewers and users everywhere yet the problem was easily fixed by modders in ~10-30 mins.I would think that a company the size of Silverstone who has been in the PC case building and design industry for awhile, with the R&D they have and awards they have won...would know a thing or two about designing a case in a good way and not a "poorly designed" way.
Haven't looked into FT01 issues (because I never shopped for one) so I can't comment, sorry.
[after viewing the YT video]
They remedied that problem on the FT02/RV02. Lesson learned.
I never said their cases were perfect.
You just rephrased what I said in my prior post.Design stuff like that happens sometimes and they don't catch it; Silverstone is not the only company that does this.
You're right, the TJ07 was a piece of crap wasn't it?
Before the FT02 the TJ07 was their flagship case, it was designed beautifully and it won review awards. Thus everything I said they did.
Do us all a favor and drop the attitude.
This was kind of a spare no expense build since I haven't built a new PC in about 5 or 6 years and right now I'm using a Shuttle SFF 2.4ghz Pentium 4.
Actually, I proved that Silverstone didn't which you seem unable to grasp. However, in your clearly defensive mindset you somehow have twisted this into me accusing Silverstone of having poor engineering. That's a myth you are creating in your own mind because what I actually said was:@ coco
You insinuate that they don't know what they're doing
At no point did I say any such thing as shown above. What I said was to rebuff your babbling about how Silverstone has been around for so long and has won awards blah blah "would know a thing or two about designing a case in a good way and not a "poorly designed" way.' Fact is, despite all the kudos you lauded Silverstone for, I demonstrated quite clearly that they, like any other manufacturer, are capable of oversight/failure/mistakes.I offer counterpoints that they do have cases that are good highly regarded cases. You're acting as if they make 1 bad case so their HQ is a monkey pen in the zoo.
You already told us as much, what's crazy is your defense of your prior ignorance.I didn't know about the FT01 problems, I don't care about the FT01 problems
I agree with you, we don't know Silverstone's reasons. However, despite the fact that I already said that I don't believe the fan/filter trays/carriages will be a problem dust-wise, that doesn't mean it's not worth discussing. Maybe it never occurs to you that these sorts of discussions held in fora everywhere can lead to improvements in design thus benefiting us all down the road. Blowholes were around for 6-8 years before we started seeing OEMs like Antec/In Win/etc slowly trickle them into their cases.Neither you, me, kiger, or anyone knows why they put those gaps in there; I reiterate they may have been put there purposely.
Beside the fact that you were already debating on Silverstone's engineering for a couple posts before I even entered the discussion, it is not unreasonable to talk about another case from Silverstone in a thread about their products. This is particularly true on the issue of dust filters and another case from the same product line a la the ft01. I notice you didn't have any trouble bringing up tj07 right?this is an FT02 thread and I'm talking about the design of the FT02 here.
It's your nonsensical ignorance and childish ego that keeps you blind. From the moment I said your ft02 dust filter observations were "merely anecdotal" you've become increasingly defensive. Your judgment is so skewed atm that I could spend some time talking about all the great things I think Silverstone's done from an engineering or aesthetics standpoint (a long list, to be sure), but in your ire you'd probably translate it as me bashing your beloved new case. I could try to be gentle in my words to you, but you're acting like a brat and I'm not in the mood to babysit someone who can't act like an adult.And again you also continue with the insults. I'm done with you and this OT nonsense.