New Silverstone FT02

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Thanks, is it a lot of work to remove the brackets?

I was originally only going to use my ft-02 as a stopgap as I wait for the alta s1, but it has been put on an indefinite hold. So I might be using my ft-02 a lot longer. Oh how I wish it had a full tempered glass side panel and USB 3.x ports...
Seriously silverstone, if you're not going to make another high-end case, at least sell us parts to refresh your old stuff
Removing the brackets is rather easy but it has one tricky part: the brackets are fastened with plastic clips from the underside.
A big flat head screwdriver AND direct sight on what you are doing will prevent you from braking them off.
! My older case has 400ml of silicone in and around the brackets since i tried to unclip them blindly.

USB3 ports are currently sold in the us and uk via ebay for like under 20 bucks.
Search for used cases locally. Every now and again one will pop up. I recently bought one for spare parts that way. Metall side panels though.

@ WorldExclusive: What's a "WRI" again please?
 
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johnnysd

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If anyone wants a FT-02 in pretty decent shape let me know. I just made a new system and moved to a new case, and will likely sell the case or possibly the whole system i5-8400, 1070TI, 16GB, 750 Seasonic Gold P/S. Am in San Diego local meet up would be easier.
 

ccy1028

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hi
The new asrock 6800xt cards that I've been wanting were announced and they have a length of 3300mm. The ft-02 has a gpu limit of about 3000mm. Has anyone fit a longer card in theirs? If so how?
I think it depends if you have a radiator installed, the strix RX580 at 298mm is an exact fit with zero clearance against the AP183 (32mm) and magicool 2x180 radiator (35mm) with the case original filter brackets removed.
So this gives you 365mm of space for all the cooling stuff and video card. If you install the 6800xt you have 35mm left for the fan+radiator without brackets. If you go for fan only you will have 3mm left.
 

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I have a pic, but I also have some bad news fellow FT02 friends.

The Strix 3080 card does not support being rotated 90 degrees. It was pegged at 90-99% fan and 79-82c when in normal orientation. I flipped the entire case over and ended up with 60-70% fan and 63-65c temperatures.

My legendary FT02 has reached the end of it's journey. I'm very sad.

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I'm totally bummed out after seeing your post... I'm a long time owner of the FT02 and there's simply no good replacement for this legendary case. Like you I'm planning to get a new gpu, I'm leaning towards the 6800XT because it has more vram. However, almost all the AIB models for the 6800XT are waaaay too long and will not fit the FT02 without removing parts. Only two cards I know of will fit, the AMD stock model and the Gigabyte Gaming OC model. I like the fact that RTX3080 has a lot more selection since they have shorter cards. My biggest worry now is the problem you faced, I looked at almost all the AIB cooler heatspreader placements (Both 6800XT and 3080) and they are similar to the STRIX 3080 with the heatspreader being near the left side of the card which is causing problems with the heatpipe cooling.

The AMD stock model uses a vapor chamber instead of heatpipes, does anyone know if the card orientation has adverse effects on this type of cooling? Anyone currently using the AMD stock 6800XT in the FT02? I seen some users with the FE 3080/3090 cards, how is the cooling working for you? If anyone is using the AIB models for either 6800XT or 3080 please let me know how the cooling is working with the FT02.
 

MissJ84

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I'm totally bummed out after seeing your post... I'm a long time owner of the FT02 and there's simply no good replacement for this legendary case. Like you I'm planning to get a new gpu, I'm leaning towards the 6800XT because it has more vram. However, almost all the AIB models for the 6800XT are waaaay too long and will not fit the FT02 without removing parts. Only two cards I know of will fit, the AMD stock model and the Gigabyte Gaming OC model. I like the fact that RTX3080 has a lot more selection since they have shorter cards. My biggest worry now is the problem you faced, I looked at almost all the AIB cooler heatspreader placements (Both 6800XT and 3080) and they are similar to the STRIX 3080 with the heatspreader being near the left side of the card which is causing problems with the heatpipe cooling.

The AMD stock model uses a vapor chamber instead of heatpipes, does anyone know if the card orientation has adverse effects on this type of cooling? Anyone currently using the AMD stock 6800XT in the FT02? I seen some users with the FE 3080/3090 cards, how is the cooling working for you? If anyone is using the AIB models for either 6800XT or 3080 please let me know how the cooling is working with the FT02.
I don't think the heatspreader being to the left is what matters so much, but rather that when it folds back around like on the 3080 and 3090 Strix. For example, the cooler on the Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT Nitro+ should be fine as none of the heatpipes loop back to the right side of the card. I've seen people with FE and EVGA 3080/3090s in FT02 and FT05 here and elsewhere and they've all reported no problems. I also had a 2070 Super Strix, which has two of its six heatpipes bend back, but I never had any kind of temp problems with it in my FT05. I included photos for cooler comparison below (Nitro left & Strix right), courtesy of Techpowerup.

PS - Sorry to link a card (Nitro+) that's slightly too big for the FT02, but I couldn't find a better example.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-6800-xt-nitro-plus/2.html
 

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I don't think the heatspreader being to the left is what matters so much, but rather that when it folds back around like on the 3080 and 3090 Strix. For example, the cooler on the Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT Nitro+ should be fine as none of the heatpipes loop back to the right side of the card. I've seen people with FE and EVGA 3080/3090s in FT02 and FT05 here and elsewhere and they've all reported no problems. I also had a 2070 Super Strix, which has two of its six heatpipes bend back, but I never had any kind of temp problems with it in my FT05. I included photos for cooler comparison below (Nitro left & Strix right), courtesy of Techpowerup.

PS - Sorry to link a card (Nitro+) that's slightly too big for the FT02, but I couldn't find a better example.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-6800-xt-nitro-plus/2.html
I was going by the wording on the Silverstone FT02 page "The illustration here shows a VGA cooler that will not work well in the FT02 because the heat source side (touching the GPU) ends up being located higher than the other end." My current gpu and all past gpus had the heatspreader right smack in the middle so I never had an issue with cooling in the FT02. I would have to agree with other poster about the FT02 wording not being the best. I hope you're right, that it's only the loops being higher and not the just the heatspreader. Neither gpus are in stock where I live and probably not for a long while so I can wait for other FT02 owner's findings.
 
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MissJ84

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I was going by the wording on the Silverstone FT02 page "The illustration here shows a VGA cooler that will not work well in the FT02 because the heat source side (touching the GPU) ends up being located higher than the other end." My current gpu and all past gpus had the heatspreader right smack in the middle so I never had an issue with cooling in the FT02. I would have to agree with other poster about the FT02 wording not being the best. I hope you're right, that it's only the loops being higher and not the just the heatspreader. Neither gpus are in stock where I live and probably not for a long while so I can wait for other FT02 owner's findings.
Yes like I said, I can only attest to the 2070 Super Strix (Photo below), which had no problems staying cool in the FT05. I've seen more but here are a few other examples I've seen.

3080 FTW3 Ultra reportedly fine in same orientation - https://www.overclock.net/threads/t...ase-owners-club.408195/page-328#post-28657465
3090 FE in FT05 - https://hardforum.com/threads/new-silverstone-ft02.1429251/post-1044814374
3090 FE in FT01 - https://hardforum.com/threads/new-silverstone-ft02.1429251/post-1044832724

Edit - I forgot to add that I do agree that the wording from Silverstone could be better. Also, it turns out Carlyle2020's card is just a page back like the other two.
 

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WorldExclusive

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Removing the brackets is rather easy but it has one tricky part: the brackets are fastened with plastic clips from the underside.
A big flat head screwdriver AND direct sight on what you are doing will prevent you from braking them off.
! My older case has 400ml of silicone in and around the brackets since i tried to unclip them blindly.

USB3 ports are currently sold in the us and uk via ebay for like under 20 bucks.
Search for used cases locally. Every now and again one will pop up. I recently bought one for spare parts that way. Metall side panels though.

@ WorldExclusive: What's a "WRI" again please?
FT02-WRI is the Limited Edition FT02. Only 1500 made.
WRI = With Red Interior
 
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There are more WRI verions out there to hunt for.

As far as i can remeber a well known System Integrator also did sell the WRI variant with their own logo on the lower front.
 

CoolColJ

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I originally used the Ft02b to house an i7 3930k, Asus P9X79 16gb system for the last 10 years, until it died 2 months ago...

decided on an AMD upgrade, of MSI x570 Tomahawk, Ryzen 3800x (will upgrade to 5900x later on), with 32gb 3600mhz cl14 ram.
had everything running ontop of the case for a few weeks, to make sure everything was OK. Temps were good with open air and one of my Ap181 180mm fans adding airflow.

Took the chance to clean everything :D
Replaced the bottom 3 Ap181 fans with 3 180mm AP183 PWM fans, which are quieter and with full bios PWM control can run at < 500rpm

But when it came to install everything back into the case, things changed, much hotter!
Samsung 970 evo plus NVMe drive started to idle around 60 degrees...
And then found out my MSi RTX 3070 trio video card was too long...

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Got the new setup up and running in my Silverstone FT02b

Ryzen 3800x boosting to 4.175ghz on all 8 cores now holds at 70degrees with 21 ambient. D14 fans hitting about 723RPM

I had to remove the middle bottom AP183 180mm fan at the bottom to fit my MSI RTX 3070 Trio, but then decided to place it on top the right bottom fan, with gaff tape holding it place :)
Not ideal but it still increases airflow, and positive air pressure, and together with my old Scythe S-flex 120mm on the top right at 600rpm, also gaff taped against the power supply keeps the Samsung 970 evo plus NVMe drive idling at 48 degrees now

I also decided to finally use a Scythe Kaze Jyuni 120mm I bought 9 years on the bottom left directly airflow against the X570 chipset and the RTX 3070, also flows up air to the my Western Digital SN550 NVMe in the Silverstone PCIe adapter.
This keeps the RTX 3070 trio's fan completely off, instead of it turning on and off periodically, although it's pretty much inaudible anyway.
This fan has more airflow than the S-flex, but not as quiet as my Noctua S12b on the single top case exhaust

The 3 hard drives on the left are suspended with veclro straps cut to length from a roll - inaudible from 1m away

Plenty of room on top of the heatsink for another 140mm fan.
Thinking about Noctua A12x25 120mm fan replacements, and maybe a 140mm version later on?
Or the new passive heatsink as well, as the dual stacked 180mm fans at the bottom should keep it cool :LOL:

The Corsair HX1200 power supply is overkill, but the fan on it never comes on, until >600w load. And I have never seen it come on except when first powering up, so effectively a passive power supply :p

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Congrats !
Concerning your fan dilemma:

Not putting a 180mm fan directly under the GPU is rather a waste of fps.
From the pics it roughly looks like you could slap the filter on from the outside and loose the plastic fan-stand and mount the fan back directly to the case with .. 1-2 layers of tesa powerstrip which dampenes the vibration.

After that I bet you could loose the two 80mm fans that look like ... well out of warranty and still bench a higher score.
The square noctua fan fits better on top since it will direct the air upwards straighter than a 140mm one. And the old D14 does not really make that awefull sound that a D15 makes in pull config. Due to the white spacer mostly.
The Noctua A12x25 is the best fan for the upper 120mm mount.
That Mount btw is a silent wings killer. After 6-12 Months in that position the bearings are toast and run dry.

A natural hotspot is around the display ports on the backside of the GPU. At least if you run intel on the limit :)
I would install a montherbard temp sensor on that spot for a day or two.

A D14 with fans of a D15 runs 2-3 C lower than a stock D15 btw.
You can write noctua a mail and they send you new metall clips for new fans for free.
... I remember that the 140mm fans included with the D15 heatsink run faster than the 140mm ones you will find with only a quick search.

And since this looks like a case without a window i suggest buying two slabs of:

STP BOMB AERO - 375x530x4,2mm​

to be put inside the doors. Fits rather nice and will leave enough room for the cables at the back and the heatsink at the front.

Do you see the two cut-outs on the left in the second layer? I needed space for the D14/15 fans.

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CoolColJ

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thanks

I did try removing the plastic shroud around the GPU heatsink and that could just about make the video card fit in with the middle 180mm fan as per normal.
if I can get gain another 3mm of space it should just squeeze in :)

You can't remove the grill over the Ap183 fans, so that doesn't help.
And I found sitting the fan ontop the other one induced horrible vibration and modulation noise as the fan sped up!

Could maybe reuse one of my original AP181 fans in the middle spot, which you can remove the grill.
Actually the Ap181 fan, originally under the drive cage has no grill.
 
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CoolColJ

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I have a pic, but I also have some bad news fellow FT02 friends.

The Strix 3080 card does not support being rotated 90 degrees. It was pegged at 90-99% fan and 79-82c when in normal orientation. I flipped the entire case over and ended up with 60-70% fan and 63-65c temperatures.

My legendary FT02 has reached the end of it's journey. I'm very sad.

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Ok that explains why my MSI RTX 3070 Gaming X Trio was around 60 degrees when setup outside the case, horizontally, and quiet with 40% fan speed
And then when inside the Ft02 vertically it reached over 75 degrees, and the fan hit 100% at 2000+ rpm!
I had to use MSi Afterburner to cap the temp at 65 degrees, and drop the power limit a bit...
 

CoolColJ

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Ok that explains why my MSI RTX 3070 Gaming X Trio was around 60 degrees when setup outside the case, horizontally, and quiet with 40% fan speed
And then when inside the Ft02 vertically it reached over 75 degrees, and the fan hit 100% at 2000+ rpm!
I had to use MSi Afterburner to cap the temp at 65 degrees, and drop the power limit a bit...


card's heatpipes - I briefly tested with the case sitting on it's side and the temps stablized around 65 degrees C

The top section is fine, but the larger bottom section - the vapour can travel down easy enough to the fins, but when it cools into liquid, it has to travel back up against gravity.
It will do it ok, just not as well if it was horizontal so video card settings will have to be capped in MSi afterburner, temps and power draw

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caw2007

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Just got done with this build this weekend. I still have a couple small things to do but it works really well. I love this case and I'm glad I took the time to plan it out. Also, QDC's make this so much easier..

System is a 1900X TR and 5700 flashed to XT. Optimus and Heatkiller blocks, respectively. I may end up swapping my 3090 and 5600x main system in here to see what temps are like, but as it stands under a full load my coolant stays under 32C with no issues. I have a D5 NEXT/ Splitty4 managing things. Swapped to AP183s for full PWM control. Also ordered new acrylic from Silverstone for my side panel.

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