I know that they will not optimize for so such small fraction of cases, but they can test them in such position (they don't need rotated case, they can rotate normal case when running benchmark and see the impact ;-)badpixel, we have been using the -G suffix for a while now, it means "glass" panel version. For cases that may have plain or glass versions, we will use this suffix, you can see this with our FARA R1 case models. The included fans are our retail Air Penetrator 140i. Those vented expansion slots with honeycomb pattern do have a higher ratio of opening for a bit better airflow than our retail Aeroslots.
The amount of non-reference graphics cards on the market are quite staggering, we don't have the capacity to acquire and test them all. But we do have good relationship with both NVIDIA and AMD even though we have little to no influence on their GPU designs. If they feel there aren't that many 90 degree cases on the market, then they won't optimize for them. We know for sure that all NVIDIA reference designs can work with our 90 degree designs. AMD's current 6000 series reference design are not but their previous ones were OK.
That's why I've asked Tony Ou to ask 'em all, because they will thread so famous manufacturer representative with much more respect than individual user like you (because they can put such cards on oficcial 'compatibility list' increasing card sales for them)I have writed email to ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI with ask, to make tests in 90 degree orientation, with video outputs facing up - resoult is worse than i expected. Only MSI made test, but with PCI riser (they did not understand my ask) and dont want to re-test it, their answer is also unclear, as they stated, GPU is working with same temps as horizontal mounting (so they mounted it horizontal-vertical instead just vertical). I told them about problem, cases with such layout and thats what we have....
Gigabyte did not tested cards, they replied just they guarantee their cards work ok, and if user meet some trouble, he can write to gigabyte support.
ASUS ignored my ask.
Thats power of users, here is why brands making the cases should come in. I saw on some small case with vertical laout GPU compatibility list, and there was listed OVERHEATING GPU's in that orientation. It seems nobody care, and users ends up with hardware failured, or DIY fixes without any support, or... Spend MORE money for swapping GPU's or cases further.
You can even rotate the case and lie it on the back...it will be compatible with all GPUs then, and spill-proof (no more vents on top)
I've been waiting in EU for Alta F1 as long as this thread has existed. Will order as soon as it is available. Many eshops deliver freely inside EU.The posts here on Hardforum were a factor which I used to help convince higher-ups to release ALTA F1 outside of China, albeit on a limited basis.
Or they could make another triple 180mm fan case again that has the graphic card mounted horizontal-vertically, like most modern cases attached by a riser cable.You can even rotate the case and lie it on the back...it will be compatible with all GPUs then, and spill-proof (no more vents on top)
Even maybe Tony Ou could be so kind and put it on the official FAQ, that in case of GPU overheating problems (caused by rotated case design) ,case owner can rotated the case or watercool GPU and provide distances(for the back of the case, to bent ables for small fee (or optionally case could be lied on the front, but then they would provide additional power button kit (to mount it on the bottom of the case [Like rotated TJ11 got two of them in standard. Now I know why ;-]
Sounds irrational? Yes, but at least it will semi-solve the problem ;-)
If that layout is what you are after, I think the CM SL600M is quite close.Or they could make another triple 180mm fan case again that has the graphic card mounted horizontal-vertically, like most modern cases attached by a riser cable.
Like my mock design of a modern ft02
What is modern in that? There were non-rotated Silverstone cases from Fortress, Raven and Temjin series, but no one looked like FT02.Or they could make another triple 180mm fan case again that has the graphic card mounted horizontal-vertically, like most modern cases attached by a riser cable.
Like my mock design of a modern ft02
Oh it's not practical, it very very large. It's 30cm wide, 60cm long, and 78cm tall.What is modern in that? There were non-rotated Silverstone cases from Fortress, Raven and Temjin series, but no one looked like FT02.
you've simply created over-complicated case, that's totallly impractical. It will be as big as FT02(or even bigger), wasting more space than TJ-11 probably. Risers can cause problems too.
I really love how FT02 was executed. It was nearly perfect case then, and it still is. All I would like to change is to have more more expansion slots, a bit more space for longer GPUs and on the back of the case for cable routing.
It's the nicest case ever. 5.25" FTW!
I wouldn't call it newer...especially FT02, because it's not FT02 (it's stylized a bit after it).Oh
Oh it's not practical, it very very large. It's 30cm wide, 60cm long, and 78cm tall.
The modern aspect come with the removal of useless 5 and a quarter nonsense, a separate power supply compartment that can house radiators or 5.25 drives for those that don't know any better, or 3.5s. The graphics card slot can also be moved up to accommodate a thick 85mm rad with push pull 180s. And finally it s equipped with a proper full tempered glass side panel.
I guess our ideas of cases are different besides the ft-02 being boss. I just whish I could have one that's newer.
I've had my ft02 for 10 years. I can't bring myself to get any other case. I really wish they would just update one.I wouldn't call it newer...especially FT02, because it's not FT02 (it's stylized a bit after it).
Rotated design is newer than not (FT01 was not rotated, so it's downgrade for me).
Silverstone uniqueness of FT02, TJ11 or RV01 is because of rotated design. If you want standard, you can buy relatively cheaper other similar cases. Lian Li made many high quality with elegant look (like FT02), that are relatively cheap 2nd hand. I've considered buying them, until I saw FT02 somewhere by accident (and fallen in love with it).
So why not use FT02 still?I
I've had my ft02 for 10 years. I can't bring myself to get any other case. I really wish they would just update one.
I simply can't find another case that ticks all the boxes for me. I want a large case. I want a left side case. I want good air flow. I don't want 5.25s.So why not use FT02 still?
I dont understand what you define as 'modern' case.
- lack of 5.25 bays? Agree that most people don't have use of it(albeit I still love them)
- lack of 3.5" hdd bays? Most people use SSD or dedicated NASes, but I'm bit old-school.
- RGB^H^H^HARGB thats insane reason.
You wrote about modern position for GPU. It's only for showcase(of pricey GPU with big radiator and usually RGB Fans) and in most "modern" cases GPU temps got higher when mounted in such position. It's simply useless blink (Awww....you have to pay for riser separately in 99% of cases). It's the reason for FishTank cases like PC-011, that are loud as hell(cannot be dampened and glass is hard material, so...), but all ARGB fans are perfectly visible...
Any why limit yourself to silverstone's cases only? I have Silverstone cases exclisively. But it's Accident, because I bough GD01-MX 15years ago. Recently wanted to buy Lian Li case, because my cheap cases had problems to fit all HDDs safely and Vega64/Radeon VII, but I found 2*FT02 and TJ-11 month later ;-)
Thank you very, very much Tony. My deepest gratitude for helping to push some Alta F1's to our part of the globe. I hope to hear from your European office shortly!
No plans to introduce more versions of ALTA F1 at the moment unfortunately. But those new Air Penetrator fans are good and respond well to DC voltage change if you want to control their speeds.Tony,
As I love and still use my FT-02, I have really been looking forward to this case since CES 2020. But, I am not thrilled with the 3-pin fans included. Is there any chance of a either a no-fans or PWM-fans option? Thank you for all your hard work on the case. It looks beautiful.
PS - Any further updates on the Alta S1?
Really wanted the quiet version without glass, but this will do for sure. Are there plans to release the metal panel as separate purchase?No plans to introduce more versions of ALTA F1 at the moment unfortunately. But those new Air Penetrator fans are good and respond well to DC voltage change if you want to control their speeds.
No further updates on the S1, project still in suspension.
Really wanted the quiet version without glass, but this will do for sure. Are there plans to release the metal panel as separate purchase?
If you're like me and live in the UK, caseking.de doesn't ship here. Any plans to work with UK retailers before I ship the case to a friend in Hungary, pay another ~£40 to ship to UK and then have to pay import tax and VAT?
No updates yet on the event as we are still working on a few things. But if you are curious about what's coming, you can check out an online preview we held with the Japanese media in the link below:
Thanks! Those cases look great. Just hope the S1 isn't too far behind or, gasp, canceled.
We are always in constant development of new products, so it would be a surprise to not have surprises at product events, right?Thanks! Those cases look great. Just hope the S1 isn't too far behind or, gasp, canceled.
Also can we expect any surprises not covered in that interview?
Why is your GPU not running at higher clocks, got the game capped @ 60 fps?Although CaseKing messed me about for a while, I eventually received an Alta F1. Transferred my system from my Raven 2 into its new home and everything works fine, save for the front ARGB strip, which froze in a static blue-red display when I first turned the system on. Reboots and power resets haven't worked, nor does my MB's RGB Fusion detect it, so sadly I have been forced to disconnect the strip.
Temperature wise it keeps my PC cool averaging in the mid 30's Celsius, at an ambient room temp of 21 degrees. When playing Cyberpunk 2077 at 3340x1440 max settings and ray tracing on, my Asus TUF 3090 runs in the low 50 degrees (see GPU Tweak screen capture below).
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