New Moto X is official

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http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/05/moto-x-returns/

Looks better in real life than the renders suggest. The highlights to me are that ring flash and the customizable voice keyword. Also, it's faster than some rumours suggested: a Snapdragon 801 and other good specs for $100 on contract, $500 off. Now, when's that Canadian release coming?
 

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Been watching some videos from droid life. Seems good, but I want to see what the droid maxx version is going to be like for verizon. I'm actually a little worried they wont have a newer maxx, it was already announced and released by this time last year.
 
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They should have put larger battery in it. That's smaller than in Z3 Compact. 2300 mAh battery isn't acceptable for device this large. That display is going to suck power.
 

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They should have put larger battery in it. That's smaller than in Z3 Compact. 2300 mAh battery isn't acceptable for device this large. That display is going to suck power.

They're probably banking on the power savings of the AMOLED screen to stretch out the battery life. That does make sense, given with Active Notifications you don't have to turn the entire screen on just to see your email or a missed phone call.

The new Moto X looks really damn slick honestly. My main concern is going to be the quality of the camera. The megapixels went up but I really want to know if the pictures it takes are any better. I wonder if the old Moto X will get an even steeper price cut? Or will they just cease production altogether?
 

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Was not really impressed myself, think the market is kind of in a stall currently.
 

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The 2nd gen Moto X looks really good, EXCEPT that 2,300mAh battery :(

Especially coming from Motorola who are famous for their "MAXX" battery tech, making huge 3,500mAh batteries fit in thin smartphones.

Why couldn't they put that MAXX tech in the Moto X ?
 

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I want to see real-world battery tests before making judgments about the new X. Motorola is pretty good about efficiency, and it has much less software overhead chewing away at battery life than, say, a Galaxy S5.
 

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I want to see real-world battery tests before making judgments about the new X. Motorola is pretty good about efficiency, and it has much less software overhead chewing away at battery life than, say, a Galaxy S5.

Also remember this is using a standard Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 chipset, not Motorola's X8 architecture seen in the previous Moto X. Therefore from my understanding they are relying on the Snapdragon 801 now to do the contextual and voice processing - which will surely have some additional overhead power-wise. Likewise even active display whilst energy efficient, will use more power on a 1080p screen than it does on a 720p screen.

It will be interesting to see peoples battery life on the device.
 

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Finally Motorola came up with a nice specs phone. Droid series was always step behind of other brands. But Moto X was uprising and finally caught up. Too bad, I still have 1 more year till I can upgrade. I see the ATT logo in the back, but assuming it will be either unlocked or Verizon as usual. I would be sad, if exclusive to ATT. They already got Amazon Fire phone which looks to be best phone so far.
 

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Why couldn't they put that MAXX tech in the Moto X ?

Cost.

They're selling the new X for $99 on-contract and $499 off contract now immediately out of the gate and I'll bet there will be sales on it in a few months for free on contract or $399 off contract.. The Maxx phones had a $100 premium over the regular Droids. Obviously not the strategy Moto is going for right now. Not sure what the prob with options are though. They could have made a Maxx model for a higher price, that would have been nice. But I'm guessing Verizon has some exclusivity deal for that model.
 

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They could have a MAXX type phone coming out soon after.

This needs a WP variant and I would sell my Note 3 for this.
 

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Doens't make much sense to me. They previously had a 4.7 inch phone with a 2200 mah battery. They increase to 5.2 inches, which is a substantial jump, and yet they only squeeze in a measely extra 100 mah? What am I missing here? Where they just being lazy? It is really a huge cost saving to gimp the battery?

While the original Moto X had decent battery, its probably a safe bet that the new X while be a step down considering the size and resolution of the display.
 

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Doens't make much sense to me. They previously had a 4.7 inch phone with a 2200 mah battery. They increase to 5.2 inches, which is a substantial jump, and yet they only squeeze in a measely extra 100 mah? What am I missing here? Where they just being lazy? It is really a huge cost saving to gimp the battery?

While the original Moto X had decent battery, its probably a safe bet that the new X while be a step down considering the size and resolution of the display.

They are using 5.2 AMOLED display. It is probably uses less power than the screen on original moto x.
 

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They are using 5.2 AMOLED display. It is probably uses less power than the screen on original moto x.

That would almost make sense if the original Moto X wasn't using an AMOLED display as well. AMOLED is what allowed the Moto X to use its Active Notifications feature without using much power for the display.

I'm sure the 801 is more power efficient than the S4 Pro in the original X as well, but I'm not sure it will make up for a screen that's half an inch bigger. I'm surprised Moto decided to make the phone so big this time, considering the smaller form factor of the X is what distinguished it apart from its larger competitors.
 
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That would almost make sense if the original Moto X wasn't using an AMOLED display as well.

I'm sure the 801 is more power efficient than the S4 Pro in the original X as well, but I'm not sure it will make up for a screen that's half an inch bigger. I'm surprised Moto decided to make the phone so big this time, considering the smaller form factor of the X is what distinguished it apart from its larger competitors.

I think they are preparing Moto G to play within 4.4-4.7' screen size and putting Moto X to play with big boys such as G3, Note3, M8, Nexus5. THese monster size phones getting popular. I expect I phone to come up with mini, mid size and monster size soon.
 

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The biggest power drain on a phone is the screen. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a new way to cut down on power pull from the screen but that would kill brightness for sure.
 

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I think they are preparing Moto G to play within 4.4-4.7' screen size and putting Moto X to play with big boys such as G3, Note3, M8, Nexus5. THese monster size phones getting popular. I expect I phone to come up with mini, mid size and monster size soon.

Seeing as how they just unveiled a new Moto G with a 5-inch screen, that theory doesn't work too well, I'm afraid!
 

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Seeing as how they just unveiled a new Moto G with a 5-inch screen, that theory doesn't work too well, I'm afraid!

So I think now, the real question is ... what are the chances these handsets come with WP, now that Moto is no longer owned by Google and these are some pretty tempting designs? :D
 

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So I think now, the real question is ... what are the chances these handsets come with WP, now that Moto is no longer owned by Google and these are some pretty tempting designs? :D

I'm going to say a 3.9% chance.. which just so happens to be WP's market share percentage in the US. :p
 

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Nice looking new Moto X. It delivers. Will wait for some hot deals around BF.
 

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LG G3 beats this, and every other flagship phone, handily. Much bigger screen and battery, no bezels, in a package hardly bigger. If only they had stock skin, there'd be no reason to get anything else. And LG is also cheaper than other phones.
 

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LG G3 beats this, and every other flagship phone, handily. Much bigger screen and battery, no bezels, in a package hardly bigger. If only they had stock skin, there'd be no reason to get anything else. And LG is also cheaper than other phones.

I don't see how. Other flagships are more expensive and carry more gimmicks, and not necessarily are better. It's not really about the spec.
 

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LG G3 beats this, and every other flagship phone, handily. Much bigger screen and battery, no bezels, in a package hardly bigger. If only they had stock skin, there'd be no reason to get anything else. And LG is also cheaper than other phones.
The only reason why the G3 needs those specs is because it's bloat would weigh it down to the point of being useless with 2 GB of RAM.

Specs shouldn't be the focus - experience should be. Out of all Android OEM's, Motorola had had the best experience since the release of the X/Droid Maxx besides, perhaps, Google.
 

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I'm holding out to see the Droid version of the moto x on verizon hopefully they don't change the body up too much. They will add the maxx battery of course but the jury is out on micro sd capabilities.
 

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I'm holding out to see the Droid version of the moto x on verizon hopefully they don't change the body up too much. They will add the maxx battery of course but the jury is out on micro sd capabilities.
I doubt Micro SD is coming

Moto did trademark "MOTO MAXX" back in July. Possible we might get a phone based on new X but with much bigger battery
 

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The only reason why the G3 needs those specs is because it's bloat would weigh it down to the point of being useless with 2 GB of RAM.

Specs shouldn't be the focus - experience should be. Out of all Android OEM's, Motorola had had the best experience since the release of the X/Droid Maxx besides, perhaps, Google.

I have the G2 (stock). It lasts 1-2 days, I like the skin more than TouchWiz, and there's no lag to speak of. What you appreciate are the little things - the clean design without bezels, knock-on, good reception etc. G3 only improves on these things and from all reviews has a better skin, so the experience is great as well.
 

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I don't think Moto will be putting out a "MAXX" device this year. If you believe the rumors, they are the ones working on the Nexus 6, so that will likely be their major Q4 release this year. There is also a rumor of them releasing a phone on VZW called the Moto S which is supposedly going to be one of the first Silver Program phones.
 

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LG G3 beats this, and every other flagship phone, handily. Much bigger screen and battery, no bezels, in a package hardly bigger. If only they had stock skin, there'd be no reason to get anything else. And LG is also cheaper than other phones.

No front firing stereo speakers like the new Moto X or HTC One M8

No stock Android like the new Moto X or Nexus 5

No well designed custom UI like the HTC One M8

No stylus support like the Note 3 or 4

No affordable off-contract price like the Nexus 5

No, the LG G3 does not beat every other flagship handily.
 

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No front firing stereo speakers like the new Moto X or HTC One M8

No stock Android like the new Moto X or Nexus 5

No well designed custom UI like the HTC One M8

No stylus support like the Note 3 or 4

No affordable off-contract price like the Nexus 5

No, the LG G3 does not beat every other flagship handily.

I'd argue that the G3 is still a fine device, but the main appeal is having a big phone that doesn't feel nearly as big as it is. Curious to see how well the Note 4 and new Moto X stack up in practice, although Motorola's handset is more of a normal-sized model.
 

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I'd argue that the G3 is still a fine device, but the main appeal is having a big phone that doesn't feel nearly as big as it is. Curious to see how well the Note 4 and new Moto X stack up in practice, although Motorola's handset is more of a normal-sized model.

The G3 is certainly a fine device, but I think LG rushed it to market just to be a first to QHD. The display is actually worse than the G2s in every way (brightness, color accuracy, contrast, etc.) outside of resolution and pixel density. Plus, your successor should not be running the same SoC (800 and 801 are essentially the same) as the device it replaces. This is pretty apparent when you play any graphical games on the G3, as any current 1080p/801 or QDH/805 devices are considerably smoother/faster in game play. It seems the 801 can just barely adequately handle QHD for anything too demanding.
 

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Announce the maxx device already! I have an upgrade waiting for it!
 

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Our Moto X (2014) battery life test is done and the results ain't pretty
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Our-...t-is-done-and-the-results-aint-pretty_id60564

But the Moto X is not without weaknesses, and perhaps the most significant one is its 2300 mAh battery -- on par with the now aging Google Nexus 5. As you can imagine, that kind of capacity isn't going to be a chart-topper, and our battery life test proved this

Average = "aint pretty"?

It got just under a full hour longer run time than the Nexus 5. Plus with the Android L update coming soon (which you know the Moto X line will get immediately), with what I've learned from tech blogs and friends running the L previous on the Nexus 5, power efficiency got a major improvement; upwards of 50% improvement in some usage cases.

I think it's a fair point against other phones too since you can expect no other OEM to get L on their phones no less than 3-4 months from its release. HTC will probably get it on their phone in 3 months (what they're promising for their updates), then Samsung and LG will probably take anywhere from 4-6 months and will probably still have so much bloat it will mostly negate any power savings from stock Android L.
 

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Average = "aint pretty"?

It got just under a full hour longer run time than the Nexus 5. Plus with the Android L update coming soon (which you know the Moto X line will get immediately), with what I've learned from tech blogs and friends running the L previous on the Nexus 5, power efficiency got a major improvement; upwards of 50% improvement in some usage cases.

I think it's a fair point against other phones too since you can expect no other OEM to get L on their phones no less than 3-4 months from its release. HTC will probably get it on their phone in 3 months (what they're promising for their updates), then Samsung and LG will probably take anywhere from 4-6 months and will probably still have so much bloat it will mostly negate any power savings from stock Android L.

People use their phones differently, I can tell you the Nexus 5 is NOT for power users, that phone can not last even close to a full day. And I am a huge Nexus fan, having owned four of the five Nexus phones. Read the XDA forums on the Nexus 5, it's like a 4h On Screen time phone, which to me is average and just ok, nowhere near good enough for me.

I need 6h On Screen time, to make it last my bust workday. I make 2 hours worth of phone calls daily, I send and receive hundred texts daily for work, I use the e-mail every half hour on my phone. I surf the web for work related stuff hourly. Basically I hammer my phone from 6am to 6pm on it nonstop, and the Nexus 5 can not handle that can of power use.

Only non stock Android phones that will get the L release quickly, will be the HTC One M8 and OnePlus One, which both said under 90 days. Yes the Moto X will be second to get after the Nexus and GPE lines first.

Time will tell if the L release will truly give the Nexus 5 a whopping 50% better battery life, I'll believe when I see it.
 

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Bigger display, metal frame, and fabulous Motorola experiences make it the best Android.

Summary
Motorola had one of the most underrated smartphones of 2013. The successor brings high-end design and specs along with even more Moto experience.
ZDnet Review of 2014 Moto X

One could argue that adjectives like 'fabulous' and 'best' are better left out of a review. However, one does have to acknowledge that Motorola admirably attained a most enjoyable user experience. Their interface and features are what the author had in mind when he wrote that.
 
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You can preorder and use the Moto Maker for the Gen 2 Moto X as of noon (EST) today. Decent phone and design options. I need to see more info about the camera though before I would consider this for a daily. I do like how it looks though, nice bit of kit.

Moto Maker Gen 2 Moto X
 

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