New Mass Effect Game

Armenius said:
Couldn't really see her boobs in the clips, but BioWare is the type of developer these days to spite the lore and reduce boob size to fight the male gaze, or something. Remember what they did to the Legendary Edition.
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I'm fairness the Matriarch Boobs and what's her name's ass were put in entirely for the majority male eye candy appeal. I don't have an issue with them rescaling per se, just I can hear the complaints now about them having not grown with age and precedent.
 
w35t said:
2>1>3>Andromeda

I couldn’t even bring myself to finish Andromeda, and that left a pretty bad taste in my mouth as it was one of my most anticipated titles. I can’t help but be highly skeptical about this one, if it isn’t something really special I’m most definitely done with the series.
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I concur 100%, I honestly don't know what the Andromeda apologists were smoking but I made the grave mistake of choosing it as my latest backlog game to play through. To this day it is still glitchy as fuck, but putting that to one side it is still inferior in just about every way compared to the prior games apart from a handful of improvements. The person who designed the inventory, research, development, merchant and weapon systems deserves to be blackballed from the gaming industry for life. And the garbage Nomad meta game of scrounging for random minerals over large barren open world landscapes is just as bad, if not worse, as the Mako time waste in ME1.
 
polonyc2 said:
Why Mass Effect’s Lead Writer Mac Walters Left BioWare- MinnMax Interview


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYaEtNnC9pk
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They already tempted fate. The third game had some shitty writing at the end and Mac Walters is largely responsible for that. Mass Effect Andromeda's issues weren't entirely based on the writing, but there certainly was some of that. Primarily, the writing for the protagonist and their "non-offensive" approach to the characters in general made everything bland and largely forgettable.
 
Plus the huge change in story arc between ME1 and ME2. Going from a mystery to everything known really changed things for the worse. And ME1 left so many threads unfinished. Wish I could remember who did it but there was a great breakdown of the story and what got reconned in ME2 or just ignored.
 
DWolvin said:
Plus the huge change in story arc between ME1 and ME2. Going from a mystery to everything known really changed things for the worse. And ME1 left so many threads unfinished. Wish I could remember who did it but there was a great breakdown of the story and what got reconned in ME2 or just ignored.
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huh. that's the first time i've seen anyone say ME2's plot was bad because it made 'everything known'
 
Colonel Sanders said:
huh. that's the first time i've seen anyone say ME2's plot was bad because it made 'everything known'
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It really didn't.

However, ME2 greatly changed the tone of the galactic landscape as you basically spend more of your time in the more populated areas like the Citadel, Illum and Omega. There was a sort of frontier feel to a lot of the human settlements you explored in the first game. That's actually something that Andromeda got right if you are into that sort of thing. However, I felt like the atmosphere and feel of ME2 was even better than that of the first game. The universe felt more fleshed out and I enjoyed it far more than the first game despite the first one having an almost objectively better story.
 
Fair enough, there are many things in ME2/ME3 that are totally better (gameplay, graphics, enemy variety, setting). I'm just hoping for more mystery and investigation, even though I loved ME3 multplayer.
 
DWolvin said:
Fair enough, there are many things in ME2/ME3 that are totally better (gameplay, graphics, enemy variety, setting). I'm just hoping for more mystery and investigation, even though I loved ME3 multplayer.
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i agree, i like a constant sense of mystery and flirting with the unknown. it just seems like the problems arise when it's time to conclude such stories, as either you leave many things unanswered (which angers one group of players who say "wow, all that time invested and i still don't have many answers?") or you do you provide the answers (which angers another group of players who say "don't spoon-feed me everything, it takes away the suspense and thrill")
 
Yeah, it would have been cool if they'd set up a Babylon 5 style internal chart on how players find/when they find stuff. The stuff in the ME1 that never gets answered at all sucks, it would be cool even if the thing you find in 2 or 3 is that it's a mystery species, or maybe a different cycle -It's even older than we thought! What does that even mean? Would have worked well in ME2. But at the end of the day it's just nitpicking a great series and hoping for another great trilogy.
 
Newest additions to my Mass Effect collection...

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Armenius said:
Looks like even BioWare themselves know they have a stinker on their hands with Dragon Age: The Veilguard, as the director for the next Mass Effect game wanted to assure people that there will be no aesthetic "switchups" while he is in charge of the game's direction. He says they are going for photorealism.

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/m...alistic-and-will-be-as-long-as-im-running-it/
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As long as they don't produce ME Andromeda-style characters & models, they might being setting a higher bar already.
 
Armenius said:
Looks like even BioWare themselves know they have a stinker on their hands with Dragon Age: The Veilguard, as the director for the next Mass Effect game wanted to assure people that there will be no aesthetic "switchups" while he is in charge of the game's direction. He says they are going for photorealism.

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/m...alistic-and-will-be-as-long-as-im-running-it/
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Yeah don't think its ultimately going to make a difference to god awful writing and modern politics....


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEBfseh01Jw
 
Armenius said:
Looks like even BioWare themselves know they have a stinker on their hands with Dragon Age: The Veilguard, as the director for the next Mass Effect game wanted to assure people that there will be no aesthetic "switchups" while he is in charge of the game's direction. He says they are going for photorealism.

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/m...alistic-and-will-be-as-long-as-im-running-it/
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Ever since World of Warcraft its almost like all the AAA studios think that anything in the fantasy genre needs to have that kids cartoon look to it and I don't understand it. However, when it comes to Mass Effect's next installment, the graphics are the absolute least of my concerns.
 
Just won't be the same. Not a chance this will be like the original games. It will either be some bland shitty open world, or some bland shitty linear game with lame characters, story and a lot of gibberish pro-noun type commentary. Sometimes it is best to just let an IP die. They can make another Mass Effect type game and start fresh. I just can't see a sequel being any good.
 
Flogger23m said:
Just won't be the same. Not a chance this will be like the original games. It will either be some bland shitty open world, or some bland shitty linear game with lame characters, story and a lot of gibberish pro-noun type commentary. Sometimes it is best to just let an IP die. They can make another Mass Effect type game and start fresh. I just can't see a sequel being any good.
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I was watching reviews of the new Dragon Age and it reminded me so much of Andromeda.
 
Dan_D said:
Andromeda is certainly one of the first AAA games to go woke. Though its wokeness pales in comparison to this shit we are getting now.
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Don't recall much of it. What was woke about it? Horizon Zero Dawn pre-dates it by a few months on console, and that was the first major AAA game I played (though with the PC released) that really pushed things.
 
Flogger23m said:
Don't recall much of it. What was woke about it? Horizon Zero Dawn pre-dates it by a few months on console, and that was the first major AAA game I played (though with the PC released) that really pushed things.
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It's the first game I know of to base its default appearance for the female protagonist on a model and make her hideous. Interestingly, she wasn't ugly in the early access build for the deluxe editions. However, on launch she ended up looking ugly. Even if you took the default appearance for the female protagonist, when you loaded your early access save in the launch game she ended up ugly.

They also have some ham-fisted alphabet mafia approved characters like the Tempest's engineer and there is a trans character on one of the colonies that's a quest giver that originally just started talking about being trans in a very obvious and inorganic way. This was patched to be less bad later on, but initially it was awful. The game also pulls the modern trope of making its protagonists as bland and inoffensive as possible. They have no edge to them the way Shepard did. Compared to modern woke games its not actually that bad, but at the time it was jarring and was the subject of a lot of discussion.
 
I started playing Legendary ME 1 again. It isn't a bad time at all. Just hit the Citadel for the first time so very early on in the game. Probably will never finish but got it installed for past 3-4 years or something whenever it came out first lol.
 
KickAssCop said:
I started playing Legendary ME 1 again. It isn't a bad time at all. Just hit the Citadel for the first time so very early on in the game. Probably will never finish but got it installed for past 3-4 years or something whenever it came out first lol.
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The problem with the Citadel is that a lot of people will try and complete every quest on it before leaving and going to another planet. The issue with that is that there is little combat and overall, that's probably the most boring section of the game when played that way. If you can complete the Citadel and all the other busy work in the game, the main quest is a hell of a ride to the end.
 
Dan_D said:
The problem with the Citadel is that a lot of people will try and complete every quest on it before leaving and going to another planet. The issue with that is that there is little combat and overall, that's probably the most boring section of the game when played that way. If you can complete the Citadel and all the other busy work in the game, the main quest is a hell of a ride to the end.
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I have played and finished all ME games.
 
They announced last year (I think?) not to expect any ME5 news or events for N7 Day this year.
 
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LodeRunner said:
They announced last year (I think?) not to expect any ME5 news or events for N7 Day this year..
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Still seems ultra lackluster to not be doing any community outreach for a game series they're intending to keep afloat. Looks even fishier now that DAV is floundering.

Edit: Minor outreach
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Dan_D said:
I have zero faith in Amazon to do a Mass Effect TV series that's worth a shit.
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you didn't like Fallout on Amazon?...or Last of Us on HBO?...Witcher on Netflix has its issues but I like it more than most (if you enjoy it on its own and don't compare it to the books)
 
polonyc2 said:
you didn't like Fallout on Amazon?...or Last of Us on HBO?...Witcher on Netflix has its issues but I like it more than most (if you enjoy it on its own and don't compare it to the books)
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I didn't see either of those. I don't care for the games. Why would I care for shows based on them? I'm concerned because of Rings of Power. That's an abomination and they keep doubling down on the wokeness. I've no faith in them to adapt Mass Effect into a decent TV show. Especially not if BioWare has anything to do with it. We'll basically get Dragon Age The Veilguard in space if they have their way.
 
Dan_D said:
I didn't see either of those. I don't care for the games. Why would I care for shows based on them? I'm concerned because of Rings of Power. That's an abomination and they keep doubling down on the wokeness. I've no faith in them to adapt Mass Effect into a decent TV show. Especially not if BioWare has anything to do with it. We'll basically get Dragon Age The Veilguard in space if they have their way.
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what does Rings of Power have to do with a new ME TV series?...it's not the same showrunner or directors or writers...every project on Amazon is not the same...that's like saying everything on HBO is going to be amazing because it's the same network that had Sopranos, The Wire and Game of Thrones
 
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