New Lian Li PC-A77F w/ USB 3.0 Ports!!!

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http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=478&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=61

Release Date: March 5, 2010
Price: $390???
If so, good luck with the sales of this case.

US Retailers:
SilverPCS.com http://www.silverpcs.com/product_info.php?products_id=651&osCsid=0877aecacef5824fc8e7c6b08d5b2765
More to come...

The main differences I see between this model and the A70F:
PC-P50 Armorsuit Styling
4 USB 3.0 ports located at the top.
3 individual HDD cages
Fan speed switch
Cable management holes in motherboard tray (Finally).

I will consider this case but I'm not too excited about the standard rectangle exterior.
 
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Man, the FT02 is has barely been on the market for a month, and BAM, an announcement like this makes it already seem somewhat dated. Am I really gonna spend $250+ on a new case that doesn't have USB 3.0 ports and isn't even fully aluminum? Damn you WorldExclusive, damn you! Stop tormenting me! :( :p

Like most Lian Li chassis, it's a solid looking design. Ventilated fronts leak too much noise for my tastes, but are definitely a boon to cooling a la the Antec 902/CM 690 etc and the LL toolless clips/psu bracket are freakin' awesome. I wish more cases had those instead of thumbscrews or the crappy plastic stuff. I, too, am happy to see the wiring cutouts on the mobo tray (finally! ++), but there should be another vertical slot on the lower left side to clean up sata/ide cabling for non-E-ATX mobos.

Hopefully LL price it competitively.
 
this is terrific. every single usb 3.0 device i have is just screaming out for more speed. the 30mb/s they run now will run much better on a 5gB/s line than it does on the 480mB/s usb 2.0 line.
 
Awesome as hell, but I'm really hoping for a refresh of the V-35X with usb 3.0 in my next build. Won't be for a few months, but I'm hoping lol.

If I were gonna do another full tower though, this one is still pretty dope.
 
coconutboy said:
Man, the FT02 is has barely been on the market for a month, and BAM, an announcement like this makes it already seem somewhat dated. Am I really gonna spend $250+ on a new case that doesn't have USB 3.0 ports and isn't even fully aluminum? Damn you WorldExclusive, damn you! Stop tormenting me! :( :p

Like most Lian Li chassis, it's a solid looking design. Ventilated fronts leak too much noise for my tastes, but are definitely a boon to cooling a la the Antec 902/CM 690 etc and the LL toolless clips/psu bracket are freakin' awesome. I wish more cases had those instead of thumbscrews or the crappy plastic stuff. I, too, am happy to see the wiring cutouts on the mobo tray (finally! ++), but there should be another vertical slot on the lower left side to clean up sata/ide cabling for non-E-ATX mobos.

Hopefully LL price it competitively.
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Yep, this should be priced around $250 hopefully. The B70 is the higher end of this style of chassis which is priced above $260. I'm a Lian Li fan now. Silverstone blurred the lines between high and mid range cases but charges a premium for it. The TJ07 after all these years is still out of range for most people.

USB/SATA 3.0 and DX11 looks like the must have features of 2010.
 
Nighted said:
Make a midtower version of this and I'm all over it like a dirty shirt.
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There already is. The Lian Li PC-P50 Armorsuit. It doesn't have USB 3.0 but I'm sure they will sell replacement I/O panels after they release all their new cases with it.

This is the full tower version of the PC-P50 Armorsuit from the looks of it.
 
WorldExclusive said:
There already is. The Lian Li PC-P50 Armorsuit. It doesn't have USB 3.0 but I'm sure they will sell replacement I/O panels after they release all their new cases with it.

This is the full tower version of the PC-P50 Armorsuit from the looks of it.
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Well, I hope you're right, otherwise there's going to be a lot of pissed Lian Li owners.

Anyway, I like the looks of this over the Armorsuit. I'm not a big fan of that monstrosity on top as I can't stack my cases if need be. I own more than one and like them to match. ;)
 
Love the look on it. I might upgrade from a PC-A16. I choosing between this, PC-X1000 or the Coolermaster 690 II.
 
coconutboy said:
Man, the FT02 is has barely been on the market for a month, and BAM, an announcement like this makes it already seem somewhat dated. Am I really gonna spend $250+ on a new case that doesn't have USB 3.0 ports and isn't even fully aluminum?
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FT02 = dated? Why because it doesn't have USB3?
I could care less. I don't have hw that supports it nor do I plan on buying hw that supports it anytime soon. :eek:

Nice looking case, surely it will be another $250+ dollar LL case and at the price range I'd rather have the FT02 with its superior cooling. Sorry, FT02/RV02 > all in regards to air cooling IMHO. (and I'm not saying that because I'm biased :p :D)
 
Try not to take it so personally there zero lol.

If you're one of those people who swaps cases, or even mobo, as often as most people wax their car, then USB 3.0 might not be a big deal. But for people who keep their computers for 3-5+ years, including their cases, USB 3.0 might be MUCH more relevant given the massive speed increase in quality flash ram based devices (won't be nearly as big a deal w/ mechanical hdds obviously).I agree that the ft02 is most likely the better performer, but till I see proof, it's all heresay.

The ft02 is a great case, but it does have a few flaws, especially given its current price bracket. If Fermi shows up in 3 months and can't fit inside the ft02 (I expect it to fit, but nobody really knows yet soooo), that alone will stop a huge number of people from buying an ft02 till Silverstone does a redesign. Combine the overpriced cost for the ft02 w/ the somewhat shallow pci slot depth, lack of USB 3.0, poor watercooling ability and it not being a fully aluminum case and the ft02 definitely becomes a gamble if you're interested in huge-ass gpu power. Even moreso given what will almost assuredly be hitting the case market over the next 12-18 months.

All those caveats aside, and I'm pretty sure I'm still going to buy one, but only begrudgingly so. Like a lot of the people I see interested in the ft02, I'm not so starstruck as to think it's perfect by any means. It's simply a great chassis in a very competitive case market, and I do admit part of me wants to reward Silverstone for going out on a limb w/ such a uniquely different design both w/ their unibody frame and rotated mobo layout.
 
The release date has been moved up to February, but other sources are still saying March. I'm sure more info will surface in the coming weeks.
 
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All in good fun :)

coconutboy said:
If you're one of those people who swaps cases, or even mobo, as often as most people wax their car, then USB 3.0 might not be a big deal. But for people who keep their computers for 3-5+ years, including their cases, USB 3.0 might be MUCH more relevant given the massive speed increase in quality flash ram based devices (won't be nearly as big a deal w/ mechanical hdds obviously).I agree that the ft02 is most likely the better performer, but till I see proof, it's all heresay.
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Well, I do swap cases frequently but I'm hoping the FT02 stays on my desk for the next 3-5+ years (hopefully forever). I think the key word/self diss there is hoping. :D [nuts] LOL
 
Thanks for posting this. :cool:

That's a nice looking tower with plenty of fans and room for water-cooling if that's your thing.

Wish I had space for one... :(
 
WorldExclusive said:
It doesn't have USB 3.0 but I'm sure they will sell replacement I/O panels after they release all their new cases with it.
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Connector part itself looks similar to one used in top panels of cases so when they'll release one of these with USB3 ports you could probably get it that way:
http://www.lian-li.com.tw/v2/en/pro..._index=184&cl_index=2&sc_index=6&ss_index=121


NukeULater said:
Aren't the connections for USB 2 and 3 the same?
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They'll be backwards compatible but they're not entirely similar.


zero2dash said:
at the price range I'd rather have the FT02 with its superior cooling. Sorry, FT02/RV02 > all in regards to air cooling IMHO. (and I'm not saying that because I'm biased :p :D)
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Yeah... not biased, just swallowed more PR BS than others.
That bottom-top airflow itself isn't any miracle maker: Complex&cramped internals made original RV01 mediocre and RV02 got even with simple front in-back out airflow by simplifying internal design.
And in other forum someone had graphics card fried when aftermarket cooler didn't work well with long heatpipes hanged vertically.
 
E.T said:
Yeah... not biased, just swallowed more PR BS than others.
That bottom-top airflow itself isn't any miracle maker: Complex&cramped internals made original RV01 mediocre and RV02 got even with simple front in-back out airflow by simplifying internal design.
And in other forum someone had graphics card fried when aftermarket cooler didn't work well with long heatpipes hanged vertically.
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It's not PR BS, it's thermal common sense 101.

RV01 internals were not that good, I agree there. The bottom having the psu fight for room with the intake fans was a bad idea. The RV02 (and especially the FT02) have better designed internals.

Sheesh I understand people don't like the FT02, no problem with that. I own one, I love it, but I don't have a problem with people who don't. My argument is that you cannot argue the cases were designed with the fact that cold air sinks and hot air rises. This is fact. There are no HD cage(s) blocking the intake to the cpu and gpu with these cases, therefore those parts get more direct airflow and they run cooler; period. I own the case, I've compared temps from the FT02 to my other cases and the FT02 wins by a long shot.
 
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Am I reading the specs right:

Internal 3.5 bays = 9 (Use 5.25 x 6 Bays)

So, by that math, if I had no optical drives, this case can have 18 internal 3.5 bays? (Use 5.25 x 12 Bays)
 
PCDesmond said:
Am I reading the specs right:

Internal 3.5 bays = 9 (Use 5.25 x 6 Bays)

So, by that math, if I had no optical drives, this case can have 18 internal 3.5 bays? (Use 5.25 x 12 Bays)
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Nope, nine 3.5 bays and three 5.25 bays. Of course, you could buy another rack and fit it in the top for twelve drives.

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Yeah, I saw the picture, and thats what confused me. By reading what they say in their specs, they make it sound like you can get 9 internal 3.5 bays by using 6 of the 5.25 external bays. Maybe it's a mistake on their part.
 
PCDesmond said:
Yeah, I saw the picture, and thats what confused me. By reading what they say in their specs, they make it sound like you can get 9 internal 3.5 bays by using 6 of the 5.25 external bays. Maybe it's a mistake on their part.
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lol, you have seen their website before, right? It's terrible!

Really nice pics of the cases though.
 
Oh great. Now I can't decide between this and Obsidian.

I already have been planning some mods for the Obsidian to make it better for my tastes, however, spray paint this bitch black on the inside and drill some holes in the mobo tray similar to the Obsidian and it's damn near perfect.

Aww, crap. they better give me a window option so I won't have to go thru modding one.

Hmmm...any way to put a hot swappable sata system in there like the Obsidian has? :confused:

Hmmm...what else does this have the the Obsidian doesn't have?

EDIT: Oh wait, I just remembered that you need USB 3.0 headers on the mobo for the 3.0 USB sockets to work at those speeds. :mad:

Alright Obsidian, you got lucky, I'll come back to you. :rolleyes:
 
PCDesmond said:
Yeah, I saw the picture, and thats what confused me. By reading what they say in their specs, they make it sound like you can get 9 internal 3.5 bays by using 6 of the 5.25 external bays. Maybe it's a mistake on their part.
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They probably copied that line from original A77 which has three HDD cage in upper PSU position.
 
After looking into this case further, I dont like it as much as my A77B. I like the A77B's hdd cage above the mobo which allows me to gut the whole front of the case for fans/rez or just leave open. The quick release levers aren't always a boon, and adding a blowhole or two to the top isnt exactly rocket science. Judging from the USB panel up top, I should just be able to buy that and do a direct swap.

The thing that got me going was the nice front bezel. The A77B is nice, but it comes with a built in port up top for their own fan bay monitor, which, IMO is a stupid and pointless design. I gutted it, but the remaining front bezel looks empty now w/o it. It looks like the new front bezel should just snap right on to the old one though... I think Ill do that, swap out the USB port, and call it a day.
 
This is the case I'm waiting for. It's now on sell in the east, http://www.prophecy.co.za/lianli-pca77f-black-lockable-side-panel-p-64449.html, and it will soon be on sale here in the US at the end of this month or the first week of March. This site says:

3/5/2010
http://www.silverpcs.com/product_info.php?products_id=651&osCsid=0877aecacef5824fc8e7c6b08d5b2765

Good News. I can finally be totally satisfied with a case. The FT02 and 800D has some short comings and like any case this one will also, but the features in this case in a reasonable size makes it perfect for me. Here's hoping Amazon has it with Free Shipping, they usually don't stock Lian Li cases.

Edit Overpriced ($350), went with FT02.
 
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