New Core Ultra Processors Deliver Breakthrough Performance, Efficiency for the AI PC Age

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“What It Does: A great AI PC first and foremost has to be a great PC. Intel Core Ultra 200V series processors are a productivity powerhouse with up to 3x the performance per thread2 and up to 80% peak performance uplift2, and up to 20 hours of battery life in productivity use cases1. These great PCs represent the next evolution of the AI PC. Through partnerships with leading ISVs, broad ecosystem support and more than 500 optimized AI models, PCs powered by the newest Intel Core Ultra processors empower users to take full advantage of what AI can offer. With multiple performant AI engines, the new processors deliver:



  • Content Creation:
    • Work faster by automatically detecting video scene changes for easier and faster video editing.
    • Expand your creativity by generating stunning vector and raster art through text prompts.
  • Security:
    • Verify if online videos have been altered with local AI deep-fake detection.
    • Protect personal data stored on your PC by AI scanning, identifying and securing sensitive files from malicious apps and users.
  • Productivity:
    • Save time by recording a video presentation once and eliminate retakes by generating new audio and video with new dialogue.
  • Gaming:
    • Boost frames-per-second performance and improve gaming experiences by using AI to generate high-quality upscaled images.


About Intel® Evo™ Edition Powered by latest Intel Core Ultra Processors:Most designs with Intel Core Ultra 200V series processors will be Intel Evo Edition laptops, co-engineered in close partnership with Intel’s partners and undergoing rigorous testing to deliver the best overall AI PC experience. By combining key platform technologies with system optimizations, these laptops are engineered to help reduce lag, minimize distractions and decrease dependency on battery chargers – ensuring exceptional experiences from anywhere. New this year, Intel Evo designs must meet enhanced metrics for cooler and quieter performance.

Features include:



  • Cooler, quieter performance and responsiveness in ultra-thin designs.
  • Long real-world battery life.
  • Built-in security that helps prevent malware attacks and minimizes vulnerabilities.
  • Built-in Intel Arc graphics for accelerated creation and smoother game play, even while on the go.
  • Lightning-fast connectivity with Intel® Wi-Fi 7 (5 Gig).
  • Ability to connect PC to multiple monitors, transfer files and charge PC with Thunderbolt Share3.
  • Instant wake and fast charging.
  • The highest sustainability standards with EPEAT Gold certification.


What’s Next: Consumer devices powered by Intel Core Ultra 200V series processors are available for pre-order starting today, with commercial devices built on the Intel vPro® platform coming early next year.

More Context: Intel Core Ultra 200V Series Processors (Press Kit) | Partner Quotes | Intel Unlocks New Laptop Efficiency with Speed | Intel Core Ultra 200V Launch Event (Replay Video)”

Source: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/news/core-ultra-200v-series-mobile.html#gs.e20418
 
LigTasm said:
You know, a PC but with AI so it can spy on your hub searches even better.
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Said AI:

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ChadD said:
First non hyper threading Intel CPU in 24 years.....
BattleMage Graphics.
Reviews will be interesting. Does it have what it takes to take on AMD Strix point guess we'll see.
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The Foreshadow exploit was never fully mitigated and disabling Hyper Threading was only a partial mitigation.
Hopefully in doing this the exploit will be fully mitigated.
 
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Meeho said:
WTF is AI PC?
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It’s not anything. It’s a PC (laptop in this case) “optimized” for Copilot AI. In reality, It’s just AI-filled Windows 11 version 24H2 being installed early on garbage Qualcomm ARM laptops before it becomes available to everyone else to peddle their AI crap nobody asked for, such as Recall.
 
1_rick said:
A better question is "why did I connect my washing machine to the Internet?"

Mine is Internet-capable, but I'm not gonna do it.
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Came here to post this. Although to be fair, my washing machine is NOT internet capable.

One of the only bits of good advice that my parents ever gave me was to buy the cheapest washer/dryers you can get your hands on because they all break right when they're out of warranty so you might as well not waste your $$$ on the fancy ones.
 
ChadD said:
Reviews will be interesting. Does it have what it takes to take on AMD Strix point guess we'll see.
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I predict that it will be more power efficient than AMD's Strix but probably not faster. Especially Zen5 with Windows 11 on KB5041587 patch. The GPU will probably be faster. The question is will reviewers actually review Lunar Lake? Reviewers have been avoiding AMD when comparing Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite chips, and turning to Meteor Lake chips to represent x86. Most of the tech reviewers are just there to either get clicks, or more recently get sponsorships. LTT is so into Qualcomm that the sponsorship money they claimed had no effect on their review is still having an effort on their reviews. Intel will also sponsor a tech reviewer to look at Lunar Lake, but sponsored videos are cancer either way. Those people aren't the most knowledgeable people when it comes to reviewing tech products either. My prediction is that tech reviewers will turn to AMD to compare to Apple and Qualcomm products in the future because that will be the inferior chip when it comes to power efficiency. I do believe that Lunar Lake is that much of a leap when it comes to power efficiency.
 
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DukenukemX said:
Those people aren't the most knowledgeable people when it comes to reviewing tech products either.
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That feel like someone that did not read the article but saw people reacting to them (without reading them) on reddit. The paragraph right after how much people invested in the metaverse in 2021 was followed by :
But real estate values have had a rocky ride. Land prices in the four major metaverse platforms, The Sandbox, Decentraland, Cryptovoxels and Somnium Space, have fallen 50 to 80% this year, according to Winston Robson, CEO and co-founder of metaverse analytics company WeMeta. He pointed to problems in the real-world economy and the cryptocurrency market as contributing to the decline.

The writer paint a picture of the current scene, i am not sure why they should give us their opinion on anything, and contrary to what the video claim it obviously point that it could be a giant bubble...
But could real estate in the metaverse ever become as reliable an investment as bricks and mortar? Or could this be Web3’s equivalent of the dot-com bubble?

He talk to analyst that do not think it is a bubble and other that think it could very well be. And this was an article by an arts & culture guy that cover cinema usually in the style section, yes it does not know nothing about tech...

And it is not just about tech, when he talk about anything, talk about Tornado:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/16/entertainment/twisters-film-interviews-climate-change/index.html
However, evidence is growing of the potential impact of planet-warming pollution. Recent studies have showed rotating, supercell thunderstorms that produce tornadoes are becoming more frequent in parts of the US outside so-called Tornado

The link he gave say the opposite, very weak evidence of a link between tornado and climate change (like Hurricane): But unlike heat waves, floods and hurricanes, scientific research about the connection between the climate crisis and tornadoes has not been as easy to make; though climate researchers say uncertainty doesn’t mean it is unlikely, .. Scientists say the short-lived scale of tornadoes, coupled with an extremely inconsistent and unreliable historical record, makes connecting outbreaks to long-term, human-caused climate change extremely tough.... and while climate change may have played a part in its violent behavior, it’s not yet clear what that role was... it is almost pure speculation to say there is a link, i.e. maybe it is not a journalist at all, just a movie reviewer.

DukenukemX said:
The question is will reviewers actually review Lunar Lake?
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Once the embargo lift, not sure why they would not ? Until then it will be the festival of unboxing, first impression tiktok videos like Qualccom..

DukenukemX said:
I do believe that Lunar Lake is that much of a leap when it comes to power efficiency.
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Would be quite extraordinary to not be the case jumping to TSMC 3.... Best Laptop pc node, should be the most efficient, too Intel cherry picked marketing show it to lose to Qualcomm in some stuff:

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They were so far away that they proudly show having 85% the battery life doing teams meeting.
 
Marees said:
Who tf cares about AI ?
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I would be curious of DLSS usage rate among those who have a gpu that support it, it must be really high (in 2024 that would be one of the most common usage of AI on those Laptop that have an npu, high resolution and limited gpu power).

For me it would already be quite strange to go back in the pre-ai days, I use it almost every day, copilot when I code and gpt replaced google-browser quite a bit by now. Depending on how hard the latency hit is (but in exchange you let the gpu alone), considering it work on a very large amount of content auto-sr type tech could be useful.

Nvidia broadcast to clean audio-video during meeting is quite heavy, having that on an npu could be nice, what they can do with half a watt to 2.5 watt can be impressive, they can do more at high watt, but it is for what they can handle at those 0.5-1-2w that make them interesting for phone and laptop (that why smartphone have been filed with them for a long time now)
 
LukeTbk said:
Once the embargo lift, not sure why they would not ? Until then it will be the festival of unboxing, first impression tiktok videos like Qualccom..
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Because Intel being better is not something most reviewers would like to show their audience. If you're an Apple focused reviewer, you probably don't want to show that Intel is superior. I don't think Linus Tech Tips will even review Lunar Lake, at least not directly.
Would be quite extraordinary to not be the case jumping to TSMC 3....
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Doesn't that mean that manufacturing is what really matters to power efficiency?
Best Laptop pc node, should be the most efficient, too Intel cherry picked marketing show it to lose to Qualcomm in some stuff:

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They were so far away that they proudly show having 85% the battery life doing teams meeting.
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If we're going by Intel's word, they also claim to be 25% faster than Qualcomm in a game while using 50% less power. Either Intel is being honest or Lunar Lake ain't as efficient. Even Qualcomm isn't efficient at every metric as they have great idle power consumption but terrible heavy load consumption. Speaking of which, I wonder if Intel did anything about sleep power consumption?
 
DukenukemX said:
Because Intel being better is not something most reviewers would like to show their audience. If you're an Apple focused reviewer, you probably don't want to show that Intel is superior. I don't think Linus Tech Tips will even review Lunar Lake, at least not directly.

Doesn't that mean that manufacturing is what really matters to power efficiency?

If we're going by Intel's word, they also claim to be 25% faster than Qualcomm in a game while using 50% less power. Either Intel is being honest or Lunar Lake ain't as efficient. Even Qualcomm isn't efficient at every metric as they have great idle power consumption but terrible heavy load consumption. Speaking of which, I wonder if Intel did anything about sleep power consumption?
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I wonder how much of the odd Qcom power consumption is on Microsoft. It really sucks that Qcom is Qcom. I mean they talked up their support for Linux. Mainlined everything for the X, then Fd around with the GPU and wireless controllers. The kernel team disabled the GPU in the kernel by default as it requires OEM vendor signing, What a shit show. Its too bad I suspect those chips would have been a lot more interesting running Linux. Either Qcomm is that terrible, or MS offered them or hardware vendors some sugar to purposely F Linux support up. I mean if your ARM windows doesn't run tradtional windows software any better then Linux it doesn't really have anything to offer other then some creepy AI crap.

I am looking foward to seeing some Linux numbers for Intels new chip, Intel might even be better then AMD when it comes to getting their Kernel drivers all tweaked up. Having said that they were a little slow getting Lunar stuff into the kernel this round. Looks like Nov before its XE2 is supported by a non experimental kernel.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Lunar-Lake-Launched

NOT going to lie though I'm much more excited about Strix point. AMD is going to put that XDNA stuff to work on upscale?? with the PS5pro, if Valve ever does a deck2 I imagine that will get some good linux support.
 
DukenukemX said:
Because Intel being better is not something most reviewers would like to show their audience. If you're an Apple focused reviewer, you probably don't want to show that Intel is superior. I don't think Linus Tech Tips will even review Lunar Lake, at least not directly.
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What are the chance Intel beat the M4 ? But regardless lot of reviewer will not care to show it, it is not like LTT has any strong pro Apple bias........ many showed Qualcomm beating apple in some stuff without any issues.

DukenukemX said:
Doesn't that mean that manufacturing is what really matters to power efficiency?
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A lot, maybe Nvidia really did a lot of work for that giant ampere->lovelace gain:
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But Tsmc 5 updated versus Samsung 8nm was probably a lot of it.

DukenukemX said:
they also claim to be 25% faster than Qualcomm in a game while using 50% less power. Either Intel is being honest or Lunar Lake ain't as efficient.
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Not sure if that follow there so much room 25% faster with half the power is quite amazing, it also is tiny bit faster than the latest amd HX370 using 75% of the power it seem, could have pick a game-setting and who knows what going on in the balanced mode-, Intel can be dishonest and still more efficient than AMD latest (that such a giant advance that they are showing). Considering qualcomm very old intel gpu, that not surprising or hard in game, but beating AMD latest by that much would be quite nice.
 
LukeTbk said:
I would be curious of DLSS usage rate among those who have a gpu that support it, it must be really high (in 2024 that would be one of the most common usage of AI on those Laptop that have an npu, high resolution and limited gpu power).

For me it would already be quite strange to go back in the pre-ai days, I use it almost every day, copilot when I code and gpt replaced google-browser quite a bit by now. Depending on how hard the latency hit is (but in exchange you let the gpu alone), considering it work on a very large amount of content auto-sr type tech could be useful.

Nvidia broadcast to clean audio-video during meeting is quite heavy, having that on an npu could be nice, what they can do with half a watt to 2.5 watt can be impressive, they can do more at high watt, but it is for what they can handle at those 0.5-1-2w that make them interesting for phone and laptop (that why smartphone have been filed with them for a long time now)
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I can understand you can use ai when taking a picture of a moon for example to get a 'better than native' photo

However (while it is useful) it is not exciting. I almost got confused by the title of this post & did a double post of my own !!! (Took me some time to realize this is about Lunar Lake)
 
ChadD said:
Either Qcomm is that terrible, or MS offered them or hardware vendors some sugar to purposely F Linux support up. I mean if your ARM windows doesn't run tradtional windows software any better then Linux it doesn't really have anything to offer other then some creepy AI crap.
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Qualcomm is not interested in Linux like AMD and Intel are because nobody is going to buy Snapdragon X chips to put in servers and mobile gaming devices. It must have also costed Qualcomm a small fortune to develop their Snapdragon X chips. It comes down to their bottom line. Microsoft probably did play a hand in this, but mostly from the lack of proper UEFI and ACPI. Device tree probably did give the Snapdragon X chips an advantage when it comes to sleep power consumption, but then again Microsoft could have just enforced a better way of dealing with sleep power consumption. I do wonder if Qualcomm Snapdragon X chips wake up to update Windows like you see with AMD and Intel laptops?
I am looking foward to seeing some Linux numbers for Intels new chip, Intel might even be better then AMD when it comes to getting their Kernel drivers all tweaked up. Having said that they were a little slow getting Lunar stuff into the kernel this round. Looks like Nov before its XE2 is supported by a non experimental kernel.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Lunar-Lake-Launched
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I don't have a problem using experimental kernels. I use Xanmod kernels and that's as experimental as it gets.
NOT going to lie though I'm much more excited about Strix point. AMD is going to put that XDNA stuff to work on upscale?? with the PS5pro, if Valve ever does a deck2 I imagine that will get some good linux support.
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I think the PS5 Pro is just getting a better GPU. If the CPU gets an upgrade then it would just be a clock speed increase. I'm sure there's a Deck 2 in the works but my guess is that Valve is probably going by Nintendo's release schedule for the Switch 2.
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What are the chance Intel beat the M4 ?
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Depends on benchmarks you choose to use. In Geekbench and Cinebench, probably not gonna beat M4. With those benchmarks, I doubt it'll beat M3. Real world tests is going to be a different story. This is why I hate most tech reviewers because they will turn to Geekbench and Cinebench and call it a day. Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed don't review laptop chips.
But regardless lot of reviewer will not care to show it, it is not like LTT has any strong pro Apple bias........ many showed Qualcomm beating apple in some stuff without any issues.
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From the benchmarks I've seen it's Apple who beats Qualcomm. It's pretty clear that LTT received a huge chunk of change from Qualcomm because they can't stop talking about their chips.
Not sure if that follow there so much room 25% faster with half the power is quite amazing, it also is tiny bit faster than the latest amd HX370 using 75% of the power it seem,
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It's going to be interesting when Lunar Lake chips make it into Steam Deck clones.
could have pick a game-setting and who knows what going on in the balanced mode-, Intel can be dishonest and still more efficient than AMD latest (that such a giant advance that they are showing). Considering qualcomm very old intel gpu, that not surprising or hard in game, but beating AMD latest by that much would be quite nice.
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It's not hard to believe that Intel could be telling the truth, but also hand picking best case scenarios. Unlike AMD who claimed at least 10% performance increase for Zen5, to barely have any increase at all. Sad thing is that Zen5 is still being tweaked by AMD with a bios update, and we still don't know how much that changes the CPU's performance. Considering that Lunar Lake is on TSMC's 3nm while AMD is on 4nm, there should be a difference. Even Qualcomm on 4nm isn't going to achieve Apple M3 efficiency, let alone M4.
 
DukenukemX said:
Qualcomm is not interested in Linux like AMD and Intel are because nobody is going to buy Snapdragon X chips to put in servers and mobile gaming devices. It must have also costed Qualcomm a small fortune to develop their Snapdragon X chips. It comes down to their bottom line. Microsoft probably did play a hand in this, but mostly from the lack of proper UEFI and ACPI. Device tree probably did give the Snapdragon X chips an advantage when it comes to sleep power consumption, but then again Microsoft could have just enforced a better way of dealing with sleep power consumption. I do wonder if Qualcomm Snapdragon X chips wake up to update Windows like you see with AMD and Intel laptops?

I don't have a problem using experimental kernels. I use Xanmod kernels and that's as experimental as it gets.

I think the PS5 Pro is just getting a better GPU. If the CPU gets an upgrade then it would just be a clock speed increase. I'm sure there's a Deck 2 in the works but my guess is that Valve is probably going by Nintendo's release schedule for the Switch 2.

Depends on benchmarks you choose to use. In Geekbench and Cinebench, probably not gonna beat M4. With those benchmarks, I doubt it'll beat M3. Real world tests is going to be a different story. This is why I hate most tech reviewers because they will turn to Geekbench and Cinebench and call it a day. Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed don't review laptop chips.

From the benchmarks I've seen it's Apple who beats Qualcomm. It's pretty clear that LTT received a huge chunk of change from Qualcomm because they can't stop talking about their chips.

It's going to be interesting when Lunar Lake chips make it into Steam Deck clones.

It's not hard to believe that Intel could be telling the truth, but also hand picking best case scenarios. Unlike AMD who claimed at least 10% performance increase for Zen5, to barely have any increase at all. Sad thing is that Zen5 is still being tweaked by AMD with a bios update, and we still don't know how much that changes the CPU's performance. Considering that Lunar Lake is on TSMC's 3nm while AMD is on 4nm, there should be a difference. Even Qualcomm on 4nm isn't going to achieve Apple M3 efficiency, let alone M4.
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Even though Intel has had their heads up their arses for some time now, I'm still rooting for them to keep the fires of competition burning. It benefits all of us.
 
DukenukemX said:
Qualcomm is not interested in Linux like AMD and Intel are because nobody is going to buy Snapdragon X chips to put in servers and mobile gaming devices. It must have also costed Qualcomm a small fortune to develop their Snapdragon X chips. It comes down to their bottom line. Microsoft probably did play a hand in this, but mostly from the lack of proper UEFI and ACPI. Device tree probably did give the Snapdragon X chips an advantage when it comes to sleep power consumption, but then again Microsoft could have just enforced a better way of dealing with sleep power consumption. I do wonder if Qualcomm Snapdragon X chips wake up to update Windows like you see with AMD and Intel laptops?

I don't have a problem using experimental kernels. I use Xanmod kernels and that's as experimental as it gets.

I think the PS5 Pro is just getting a better GPU. If the CPU gets an upgrade then it would just be a clock speed increase. I'm sure there's a Deck 2 in the works but my guess is that Valve is probably going by Nintendo's release schedule for the Switch 2.

Depends on benchmarks you choose to use. In Geekbench and Cinebench, probably not gonna beat M4. With those benchmarks, I doubt it'll beat M3. Real world tests is going to be a different story. This is why I hate most tech reviewers because they will turn to Geekbench and Cinebench and call it a day. Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed don't review laptop chips.

From the benchmarks I've seen it's Apple who beats Qualcomm. It's pretty clear that LTT received a huge chunk of change from Qualcomm because they can't stop talking about their chips.

It's going to be interesting when Lunar Lake chips make it into Steam Deck clones.

It's not hard to believe that Intel could be telling the truth, but also hand picking best case scenarios. Unlike AMD who claimed at least 10% performance increase for Zen5, to barely have any increase at all. Sad thing is that Zen5 is still being tweaked by AMD with a bios update, and we still don't know how much that changes the CPU's performance. Considering that Lunar Lake is on TSMC's 3nm while AMD is on 4nm, there should be a difference. Even Qualcomm on 4nm isn't going to achieve Apple M3 efficiency, let alone M4.
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PS5 pro might be a bit more interesting then you suspect.
The new Trinity SoC they are using might not change the CPU all that much... but it has some major changes in the GPU/AI. We do know Sony is using the Pro to release PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution PSSR... which is not just FSR its apparently AI powered ala DLSS. A few Playstation game devs have started talking and it does sound like AMD might have sandwiched the XDNA processor from strix point into the new PS hardware. Sony seems to be leveraging that for upscale. One dev was saying in some cases they are seeing 2-3x the FPS. With 50% of the preformance being hardware bump and 50% being PSSR.

I could care less about consoles... but it might actually bode well for the next gen Radeon and Strix point. Those new mid range AMD GPUs might start making a lot of sense if AMD finally has a true AI powered upscale option, espeically if it seemlessly works with FSR titles. The whole GPU chiplet stuff so far has been a bust and it sounds like AMD isn't going to try and do a chiplet GPU this round at least.... BUT perhaps the work done on the interconnects is going to allow them to better add XDNA units on their GPUs. Design one XDNA use it on Console/Mobile/GPU parts. XDNA2 this gen... XDNA3 for RDNA 4.5 or 5 / AI 400 Mobile / PS6.
 
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