New cards in July

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  1. Krenum

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    Sorry to hear about your struggle. I know it very well also, my mother died from Type 1 when I was 16, its a terrible illness.
     
  2. NKD

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    LOL you are beating a dead horse. I stopped trying.
     
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  3. Manny Calavera

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    Agree with NKD. Far too many folks are snarky and rude when online.
     
  4. NKD

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    Sorry to hear that. I truly hope and wish you well. I don't know if you have looked in to other options than prescription drugs for help for pain. I know a lot of people personally gone off them and are happy with like cannabis based stuff that has no side effects and helps with pain.
     
  5. GoldenTiger

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    Yep. Overly so... Some never stop even past their teens
     
  6. NKD

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    Thats the first question I wonder lol. I just say may be they are in their teens so let it be. But Its gotten worst over time for sure though. I just stop responding after a few tries. No point. If one can't represent an argument without straight going to name calling its not a conversation worth having.
     
  7. Manny Calavera

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    Thank you for the kind words. Sorry about your Mom. Hopefully a cure comes one day soon.
     
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  8. SickBeast

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    Do you actually game at 4k resolution? And no, I don't mean on one of those tiny 27" monitors or whatever a lot of you guys game on. I'm talking about a large 4k display. I game at 4k resolution on a 75" HDR television, and I most definitely notice AA or a lack thereof. I run most games at 6k resolution using DSR and it looks incredible. I really notice the jaggies with AA turned off. And in some games like FFXV I notice them even with SMAA enabled. I just don't have the GPU horsepower to enable DSR in the game, and TAA tanks SLI performance.

    My point is that AA is definitely needed and noticeable at 4k resolution, just like it is at other resolutions.

    There is no point in 4k gaming on a tiny PC monitor where the PPI is insane. 4k is meant to be enjoyed on a large display, and even then you need to sit pretty close to it to really benefit from it.
     
  9. Manny Calavera

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    I use hash oil,that I take from cannabis I grow myself,in a indoor grow tent with led full spectrum lighting,. I have a license,to grow for medicinal, and a Dr script. It helps alot with the pain
    ,way more then the morphine I was being prescribed ,years ago did. But with lots of trial and error,over 2+ yrs, I still get best result with Big Pharmas poison unfortunately . Its the diabetic pills I have to take with all meals I hate,as it gives indigestion,alot . Back on topic ,AA at 4k seems a bit much,but hey everyone has different vision and equipment.
     
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  10. NKD

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    We weren't arguing about 4k on TVs. But rather argue that it sucks gaming on a tiny monitor. I don't consider 32 inch 4k or 34 inch widescreen monitors tiny. How about 100hz + screens? That is big with gamers, I switched my 32 inch 4k to 120hz acer predator with gsync. I really can never go back. TV's just don't have some of the features that gaming monitors do.

    Yes I don't mind gaming on big TVs. I might upgrade to a freesync capable big tv down the road but that will still be just for family stuff. But I don't like being stuck infront of a big TV for productivity work + 100Hz+ is nice to have.
     
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  11. Brahmzy

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    Exactly. Why not just stick to 1080 or 1440 with a small screen.
    And yes AA is absolutely needed with 4K, 8K, 16K whatever.
    Has nothing to do with resolution, but PPI, as I stated previously.
    Glad some others get this too!
     
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  12. Brahmzy

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    A 43 is not “stuck in front of a big TV” it’s actually quite a perfect near field size for 2160p. In fact it’s the size that is quickly being marketed as the ultimate “Productivity” display. Do some research into it.
     
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    ~59DPi

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    Yeah that definitely needs some smoothing lol
     
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  14. Brahmzy

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    I also have a high-end 75" 4K HDR set with an HTPC attached. I don't game on it, but yeah - those are some big pixels, even at 11 feet.
    MadVR's AA/upscaling routines are night and day on 1080p content.
     
  15. spintroniX

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    Rocking an MU6300 as my primary display. I can confirm that the productivity gains over a dual monitor setup are real. It's also sufficient for some casual gaming. I can't imagine going back to a dual monitor setup now.

    Waiting on an 1180Ti to replace this 1080Ti - these new cards can't come fast enough.
     
  16. Brahmzy

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    Amen brother!
     
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    If the 1180ti can push 144/165 hz 4k I will be all over it. I kinda doubt that it will though. Maybe it is just me, but I tend to notice lower frames a lot more than lower resolution.
     
  18. Brahmzy

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    1180ti won't be able to do that with all the goodies turned up - we're still another gen or 2 from that, easy.
     
  19. NKD

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    I think 3440x1440 gsync for me is damn good for now at 120hz.

    No point pushing anything higher. I think remorse’s comes when you buy a high end monitor and then you wait years to power it and truly enjoy it.

    And I don’t see myself using 50+ inch TV ever for productivity. At the distance I sit I will probably be moving my head a lot lol. At certain point it’s outside of viewing field. And also not sitting 10 feet away. May be for presentation and stuff but not for daily use. For gaming console it’s different story since I’ll be enjoying it sitting on couch. I don’t think a tv will replace my monitor on my gaming rig.
     
  20. Archaea

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    I have the same and agree with your points, but I think I'd prefer a 38" with gsync. The 34" has a 27" height, and I'd prefer a 30" height (38" ultrawide). But I do like the cinema scope style screen. It's great for gaming, and I don't plan to leave this ultrawide type screen anytime soon.
     
  21. NKD

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    Agree. Actually my bad. I have a 35 inch lol. Haven't seen many 38 inch gsync though. Or may be I assumed they don't exist lol.
     
  22. Spoonie_G

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    New miner cards in july.
     
  23. Archaea

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    I don't think they exist yet. I've been keeping an eye out for them. I suppose they'll probably come out with the next wave of GSync monitors - and probably for too proud a price.
     
  24. NKD

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    Yea lol. That’s why I don’t jump on monitors. I wait a year or two for the bleeding edge tech to become mainstream. That allows for cards to catch up and also discount on monitors over time.
     
  25. tungt88

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    More like 4-5 years, at recent rates (the "holy grail" of 40-43" @4K 120-144hz, G-Sync/FreeSync isn't quite here yet).
    I jumped on the bandwagon for a 42" 4K VA TV back in 2015, and switched to a 34" 3440x1440 100hz IPS late last year.
    Still waiting ...
     
  26. pippenainteasy

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    That's like twice the performance of a Titan V. You aren't going to see that until the node after 7nm.

    I'm assuming you are referring to Ultra settings at 4K. A Titan V overclocked can already hit that kind of performance requirements you want at medium settings with most games.
     
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    Honestly, I tend to play competitive shooters, so all the settings are not necessary. At 1440p with settings turned down to best reaction speeds, my Titan Xp can keep R6 at 165Hz, but it dips a little too often for my taste. If the new cards can do that at 4k I will be interested. I do not mean max settings though.
     
  28. pippenainteasy

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    The Titan V already averages 120-130fps at 4K at medium settings for most AAA games on the crappy stock cooler. Put it on water, overclock it to 2GHz+ and you have a 145-155fps 4K card at medium settings.

    Looking at your rig, you need to focus on getting faster RAM too. Once you start making the bottleneck less about GPU and fps is shooting into the triple digits, memory bandwidth becomes a much bigger issue for maintaining a high framerate. You should look at getting at least 4GHz+ DDR4 RAM.
     
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    o_O Show me.
     
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    Hmm, I had not thought about my RAM being a bottleneck. I don't think it has been an issue at 1440p, outside of games like PUBG, but you are right, I can see that being a problem at 2160p. I may have to bite the overpriced RAM bullet at some point in the not too distant future!
     
  31. NKD

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    Ram makes that much difference? outside of 2-3 frames may I don't see ram making a game changing difference. I have 16gb at 3000 mhz, read up and saw some reviews didn't see difference worth spending money on. Eventually I will upgrade for the RGB lighting though and I am sure I will grab faster speed while I am at it. Hahaha.
     
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    Supposedly in certain resource hogging games RAM can make more of a difference, so maybe more CPU centric games in general. You are right though, it looks like the difference between 3000 and 4000 is not a whole lot, and rarely more than 8 FPS or so.
     
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  33. tungt88

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    The only game I know of, where RAM speed actually makes a big and noticeable difference, is Fallout 4 (especially when mods are added). Example below:

    https://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-...ulusly-high-performance-gained-by-f-32754964/

    For myself, moving from DDR3-1600 to DDR4-2666 made a massive difference in FPS (especially in the downtown Boston area, with all the skyscrapers).

    I'm curious to see what 4000 would bring to the table in that game.
     
  34. fightingfi

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    Toms site been hacked so many times even Kaspersky more than once blocked me from visiting his site LULZ......whatever
     
  35. pippenainteasy

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    Let's amend "most" to "many" xD
     
  36. misterbobby

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    That sounds better because out of curiosity I fired up some games last night at 4K and medium settings and some were still in the 40s and 50s such as Mafia 3 and Rise of Tomb Raider was in the mid-70s. That's on a overclocked 1080 TI so Titan V would only be about 25 to 30% faster. Prey was getting around 120 FPS or better and still looked good on medium settings though.
     
  37. Boil

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    All this talk about big screen 4k tvs for gaming...

    And about new GTX 11xx cards & specs & such...

    Just look to the nVidia BFGD initiative, 65” 4K 120Hz G-SYNC HDR...

    I would expect a single GTX 1180 should be able to handle that...?

    And I would expect that the new cards needed to run these monsters would come out about the same timeframe...?
     
  38. Araxie

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    if it keep the same trend in performance jumps from gen to gen yes, it should be able to offer more than decent 4K performance. but I don't see that happening until a 1180Ti which may perform a bit better than current TitanV if it's able to clock better.
     
  39. misterbobby

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    This isn't rocket science as you can easily figure out some things by simply looking at the performance of the 1080ti right now at 4K. It can't even come remotely close to maintaining 60fps in most of the really demanding games on Max settings. And no way in hell the 1180 is going to be more than 20 to 30% faster than the 1080ti even if it's that much. So no there is absolutely zero chance of an 1180 being able to get a 120 FPS in demanding games on Max settings at 4K.
     
  40. readeh

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    I'm not sure you know how resolution, pixel density and monitor size works. You have never seen a 16K display before and probably not even a 8K. If you think there isn't a difference on having 81.59 PPI compared to 163.18 on the same size display you really need to go see an eye doctor. Aliasing diminishes with higher pixel density. 8K on 27" is 326.36 PPI and that's when diminishing returns really starts, depending on size of the monitor and the distance to it (VR would need higher PPI).
    A 16K resolution on a 27" monitor would look better than any software based AA we have right now.
     
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