New Battery Charges In Seconds And Lasts For Days

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Sure, a battery that charges in seconds and lasts for days is great and all but I want to know what the blast radius is and how hot it burns when it explodes. ;) Don't act like you weren't thinking the same thing.

A team of UCF scientists has developed a new process for creating flexible supercapacitors that can store more energy and be recharged more than 30,000 times without degrading. The novel method from the University of Central Florida’s NanoScience Technology Center could eventually revolutionize technology as varied as mobile phones and electric vehicles.
 
cool seeing new battery tech like this but sadly never see it used outside of testing
 
Most of these articles just quote some guys in a lab somewhere, who don't have a lot of experience with real-world manufacturing.

So yeah, you CAN build a cell that will charge in seconds and work for days. But the charger will be the size of a toaster and draw 1000W. And you need a liquid N2 cooling system for the charger and battery when charging. Oh, and the slightest misalignment or puncture/bend in the cells will result in not just a Note 7 style "loads of smoke and small fire", but something like a hand grenade. And it'll cost 15 times the price of current battery tech.
 
So I didn't read the article (we never do that right) But someone tell me was it gold, graphene or carbon nanotube based? If they have an energy density number I'll be real impressed.
 
Battery breakthroughs are a dime a dozen, what matters is whether or not it can be applied in a mass production scenario. Also, Apple will be pissed and change their battery to perform like their old ones.
 
For the first time in my life I am hoping for a stalling of battery tech. Unfortunately super battery tech will lead to further consumer electronic dependency outside the home, robotics that take jobs, and the advancement of drone tech for surveillance and war.
 
“It’s not ready for commercialization,” Jung said. “But this is a proof-of-concept demonstration, and our studies show there are very high impacts for many technologies.”

When some lab rat comes up with a super battery that can mass produced at a decent price then publish an article, otherwise just shut up.
 
Elon Musk saying within a year it'll be cheaper than a pack of Energizsr AA's in 3,2,1....
 
basically the biggest downside to caps is that there is no way to tell how much of charge in in one by looking at it... so you put them in the fuel tank with a foot of cast iron radiator between them and the frame metal and run the current over cat five or coax... well unless the car plans to do five gees sideways then you need tempered glass runs... but serious the caps danger is not in over heating but accidental discharge... and as your female friends tend to scream at you over that can ruin you day after it shocks the heck out of you... in all serious a capacitor is simply a load coil that builds a charge up on a wire by stacking the density by running the current faster to fit in the same space... until it over come the resistor end of the wire and completes the loop... or blows out as the wire gets too hot... if you can keep the ions moving and not bumping into each other that don't get much hotter think of it like a train wreck... as long the the train is moving fast and discharging through a terminal designed to deal with them bouncing...so that as the ions go by on the loop it simply pulls off as many as it can each pass.

If you simply try to stop them the delta v turns ion into waste heat.... so inside a traditional fuel tank you could store even traditional caps to bleed over to or ground out into something that melts like a circuit breaker... 1800mAmps at 3.85 volts... about five hours of using a gps... 1.8 amps times 3.85 volts... 6.93 watts... for one day of charge say so seven days would fifty watts... my car battery is 700 cold cracking amps... and charged in fifty minutes with an alternator... if anything the power levels could be much higher before it would be really scary... but a half an amp can stop a weak heart... while a strong person gets a nasty shock. Toss a capacitor from an old monitor into someone's hand they clench around it and they start around five amps instead of the half of amp in most light sockets... just remember voltage is how fast the water is running amps are how much water there is... so when it runs up an anode... it is storing watts of energy... the current runs faster as it bounces or is spun up to speed but the resistor at the bottom is designed to off load only slower current so say 100 to 250 volts... and the capped end if you improperly ground it dumps everything into the path of least resistance... which means it flows over surfaces that the surface tension is too high on and through surfaces that the resistance does not over come the angle of the sine wave and speed of ion cloud that makes up the atomic structure... meaning the ions flow over each other but also over the oils the grease the clothing as those have separate atomic structures and ion clouds... it is possible for the ions to keep bleeding through objects as it is like the phone and internet system. it makes a choice where it bleeds through not at the start of the trip... kinda like if you had to drive from one city another and had to guess with road would be faster at each intersection and have no idea where you are or where you are going just you want the fastest round trip.
 
As already mentioned..a Super Cap is NOT a battery and won't be going into phones or laptops anytime in the near ever.
 
drakken said:
basically the biggest downside to caps is that there is no way to tell how much of charge in in one by looking at it... so you put them in the fuel tank with a foot of cast iron radiator between them and the frame metal and run the current over cat five or coax... well unless the car plans to do five gees sideways then you need tempered glass runs... but serious the caps danger is not in over heating but accidental discharge... and as your female friends tend to scream at you over that can ruin you day after it shocks the heck out of you... in all serious a capacitor is simply a load coil that builds a charge up on a wire by stacking the density by running the current faster to fit in the same space... until it over come the resistor end of the wire and completes the loop... or blows out as the wire gets too hot... if you can keep the ions moving and not bumping into each other that don't get much hotter think of it like a train wreck... as long the the train is moving fast and discharging through a terminal designed to deal with them bouncing...so that as the ions go by on the loop it simply pulls off as many as it can each pass.

If you simply try to stop them the delta v turns ion into waste heat.... so inside a traditional fuel tank you could store even traditional caps to bleed over to or ground out into something that melts like a circuit breaker... 1800mAmps at 3.85 volts... about five hours of using a gps... 1.8 amps times 3.85 volts... 6.93 watts... for one day of charge say so seven days would fifty watts... my car battery is 700 cold cracking amps... and charged in fifty minutes with an alternator... if anything the power levels could be much higher before it would be really scary... but a half an amp can stop a weak heart... while a strong person gets a nasty shock. Toss a capacitor from an old monitor into someone's hand they clench around it and they start around five amps instead of the half of amp in most light sockets... just remember voltage is how fast the water is running amps are how much water there is... so when it runs up an anode... it is storing watts of energy... the current runs faster as it bounces or is spun up to speed but the resistor at the bottom is designed to off load only slower current so say 100 to 250 volts... and the capped end if you improperly ground it dumps everything into the path of least resistance... which means it flows over surfaces that the surface tension is too high on and through surfaces that the resistance does not over come the angle of the sine wave and speed of ion cloud that makes up the atomic structure... meaning the ions flow over each other but also over the oils the grease the clothing as those have separate atomic structures and ion clouds... it is possible for the ions to keep bleeding through objects as it is like the phone and internet system. it makes a choice where it bleeds through not at the start of the trip... kinda like if you had to drive from one city another and had to guess with road would be faster at each intersection and have no idea where you are or where you are going just you want the fastest round trip.
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niconx said:
Battery breakthroughs are a dime a dozen, what matters is whether or not it can be applied in a mass production scenario. Also, Apple will be pissed and change their battery to perform like their old ones.
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No, Apple will make their device with a faster CPU and brighter screen, consuming a ton more power. Then they'll also make it even thinner, which will require the battery to be made smaller, so you'll still get the exact same battery life you've gotten for the past 4-5 years.
 
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