netsend at school : suspension

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lol. I had a kid do this in my high school too. it was pretty funny. he did "I'm rick james bitch" we all had a good laugh.
 
Met-AL said:
Well, when you guys all get jobs when you grow up and you get fired for doing stupid crap like playing WC3 at work, you will see the parallelism.
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Well since we were finished with out work and the teacher allowed it, I figured it was ok.
 
I did the same shit freshman year of high school. Net send student1 fuck you or something like that, student1 was the generic account that ALL STUDENTS would use.

I heard that a room full of teachers got the message during some training session. I managed to get away with it but you know who should get slapped up? The admin.

The next year they created unique student ID's for all students. The default password was your numerical birthday. Its so funny that when I asked a the teacher assistant about the default passwords she was like "nooo... not really... the default password has nothing to do with your birthday" :rolleyes:
 
My obligatory net send fun was along the lines of

net send * "Warning: Windows has detected a critical virus infection. In order to prevent irreparable system damage, please shut down the system now."
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Needless to say, it caused quite a panic with our 'media specialist' (read: librarian who has a Mac at home and thinks they 'know computers'). I don't think they ever figured out what was going on with that one.
 
Codegen said:
I got in serious shit a couple of days back for using the admin account to change the horrible 640x480 resolution to 1024x768 (Do you know how much of a bitch 640x480 is when programming?)

Someone gave me the password, but if the school board weren't dumb twits, they would've used something other than the initials of the school board name followed by the address of the school board building, and perhaps nobody would've found out the password.
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Haha now that sounds like something I did.... my school had select students that were interested in IT as part time assistant sysadmins...needless to say they had more access to the network than the school admins... well an AMD Athlon and 1GB of ram later I had the system admins account credentials...

Changed the resolution up in the policy and for fun made the locked wallpaper "Steven Pwns you all"....


needless to say I was also hired part time, they kept the resolution and changed the wallpaper.. lol

Now netsend, never had the luck of being in such an unlocked down enviroment. lol
 
No wonder you are being threatened with suspension. You abused your network privileges. Just because you can abuse it, doesn't mean you should. Since you were found out, you are lucky you are only being threatened with suspension.
 
protias said:
No wonder you are being threatened with suspension. You abused your network privileges. Just because you can abuse it, doesn't mean you should. Since you were found out, you are lucky you are only being threatened with suspension.
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Mr. Serious.
 
Codegen said:
Well, he is right. Isn't using the administrator account on a computer that you don't have the rights to do so on illegal?
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Well I'm assuming he's talking about the OP. And we're all here enjoying humorous stories of high school hijinx and this guy comes in like it's going to ruin something. It's not like he'll be at a job interview 5 years down the line and get declined because he did a netsend in high school
 
The only thing I'd be watching out for is my own back, I guess sometimes what goes around comes around and you'll be in the admin's seat one of these days, or something similar happening to you. Taking that into consideration and you'll know how important it is to keep security a top priority.
 
MooCow said:
The only thing I'd be watching out for is my own back, I guess sometimes what goes around comes around and you'll be in the admin's seat one of these days, or something similar happening to you. Taking that into consideration and you'll know how important it is to keep security a top priority.
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Eh, the admin in this case was a monkey. You should never rely on end users, especially teenagers, for security.

Hell, most of our job is protecting the network from the users. Something this admin obviously doesn't understand if netsend was left on.
 
Dallows said:
Well I'm assuming he's talking about the OP. And we're all here enjoying humorous stories of high school hijinx and this guy comes in like it's going to ruin something. It's not like he'll be at a job interview 5 years down the line and get declined because he did a netsend in high school
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And where was my thread crap? :rolleyes: You never know what can be done to you because you broke the rules and what goes in the records. You could even end up in court and have that be on your record. Just because you do something stupid doesn't mean you automatically get the "forgive and forget." You break the rules and you can face life altering repercussions. Then again, what do I know? :rolleyes:
XOR != OR said:
Eh, the admin in this case was a monkey. You should never rely on end users, especially teenagers, for security.

Hell, most of our job is protecting the network from the users. Something this admin obviously doesn't understand if netsend was left on.
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So very true.
 
protias said:
And where was my thread crap? :rolleyes: You never know what can be done to you because you broke the rules and what goes in the records. You could even end up in court and have that be on your record. Just because you do something stupid doesn't mean you automatically get the "forgive and forget." You break the rules and you can face life altering repercussions. Then again, what do I know? :rolleyes:.
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The kid won't have his life ruined for doing a netsend.. please.
 
Im shocked it worked with XP SP2 machines, I have never been able to get netsend to work with even stock installs of XP SP2 for some reason...even though I had no problem with stock installs of XP and SP1 :p
 
I want to try and get into doing something with my schools networking, There's only two guys that I know of and they aren't up on the latest technology. Only recently did we upgrade to HP a64 x2 3800's, 2gb ram, and 17" lcd's in the classrooms. Big leap from the pentium 2 dells we used to have.
 
TopGun said:
I want to try and get into doing something with my schools networking, There's only two guys that I know of and they aren't up on the latest technology. Only recently did we upgrade to HP a64 x2 3800's, 2gb ram, and 17" lcd's in the classrooms. Big leap from the pentium 2 dells we used to have.
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Hah, my school just upgraded to P2s/P3s from the P-MMXs :p

Actually, there are still a few MMXs floating around, and they run faster thant he P2s. :S
 
Oh yeah, and my school was convinced that Knoppix was a hacking tool. That was fun explaining that one to them.
 
dpgamer said:
Well since we were finished with out work and the teacher allowed it, I figured it was ok.
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And that right there is a bunch of BS. If the teacher allowed it, then you shouldn't have been punished. Only after you and the teacher were told to stop, then you would be punishable, that is in a world as I see it.

Who is a kid to listen to? His teacher? Heck no, because he might still be punished if he does, oh wait, he didn't listen to his teacher so gets punished.

On a side note, me, a coworker, and our boss used to play Soldier of Fortune on the network at the end of the day, hell it was almost a requirment. My boss would say "Time of some Soldier of Fortune" and if you turned him down, it was almost like ya stuck him in the back (My boss was and is still one of my best friends.) Well, we got caught by my boss's boss, who does not see why grown men would be playing video games. It doesn't matter if it was "off the clock" or not, go home, not stay and play a round of SOF. Doesn't matter, nowdays, I hardly doubt our corporate network could actually handle network gaming without having a huge unbearable amount of latency. Ah, the good old days before the "frame".
 
Dallows said:
The kid won't have his life ruined for doing a netsend.. please.
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You'd be surprised. I know of school districts who actually contacted the FBI because a kid did something similar.

Now, fortunately, the agents involved didn't have their heads up their ass. But what are the odds that's always the case? All it would take is a retarded agent on a bad day getting that call, and that kid has more to worry about than a suspension.
 
woah just noticed this thread has grown like 2 pages. it seems like quite a few of you have been in the shitter for using netsend in the past
 
deftones said:
We used to have some fun with netsend back in hs too, but i'll tell you what was even better than that.

There was a guy in my computer class that thought it would be funny to put the Whack-A-Mole game which contained the NetBus trojan on all the lab computers for everyone to play. Of course everyone thought the game was cool when they played it and then couldnt figure out what the hell was going on when their cd-rom drives were opening for no reason or their mouse pointer would start moving around the screen. Once the sys admin found out about it he was livid, but it was his own fault for leaving the system open for such mischief. The kid was suspended for 3 days for it, which i think he was lucky it was only for that long considering the backdoor he opened to the schools network.

I do agree with everyone here though on your topic. The fact that you could still send a netsend to all computers on the network this day in age is ridiculous. The sys admin must be living in the 90's still.
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My school's IT just sit around in their AC'ed room and do nothing all day long. More than half of our PC's don't even work thanks to a kid that set a password on the BIOS of the old P3 crappers.
 
in my high school's library, we can see the room where the head librarian sits (it's windowed) but her pc faces away from us.



anywho, I was good friends with the IT guy and he blocked all net send commands - except for certain accounts (*cough*) so one day, I sent a netsend to the librarian that said:

"Please close your browser, Playboy (c) is not an acceptable website as per our Acceptable Use Policy"


we saw her eyes widen and she franticly started moving the mouse. finally, our IT guy came into the library and she walked over and we heard her say "Listen, I was only there for our 'Media Wise' class". naturally, the IT guy had no idea what she meant, but he looked at me and saw me holding back the biggest laughter of my life.



its fun going to LAN parties with your IT guys
 
Computer Use Policy is something that you have to get used to more and more. So yeah if they want to, they can suspend you. To be honest, as mentioned, the admin should be slapped upside the head, i'm pretty sure netsend has been disabled since service pack 2 era? YEARS ago?? Though that's also assuming that they even run XP. But it already sounds like you have one up on the admin for even knowing what netsend is :-p
 
I had been sending myself net send messages to take measurements and check on
experiments that were time sensitive (at work).

But, as many have pointed out, the latest service packs have disabled the service by default.

So when I recently I was trying to send myself messages again and it didn't work I looked into it and found that it was dissabled, but strangely enough with the wildcard it did send the message.

Fortunately, the message was something benign like 'test', but the head IT guy still questioned me about it.
 
RadRob said:
I had been sending myself net send messages to take measurements and check on
experiments that were time sensitive (at work).

But, as many have pointed out, the latest service packs have disabled the service by default.

So when I recently I was trying to send myself messages again and it didn't work I looked into it and found that it was dissabled, but strangely enough with the wildcard it did send the message.

Fortunately, the message was something benign like 'test', but the head IT guy still questioned me about it.
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Holy thread ressurection batman! But yes, 'net send'ing still works just fine, it's the receiving that's been disabled. So a wildcard send should and would work.

We admins don't like it when people do things on our networks that we don't expect. It's nothing personal, the unexpected usually means more work for us, so we like to avoid it where and when possible.
 
lol i remember back in 9th grade on the old winnt machines we used to net send each other all the time and chat,

then the movie "The Matrix" came out and we decide to screw with the teacher by logging into the admin acct, and netsending her "The Matrix Has You...." then "Follow The white rabbit" wow the look on her face before we all started dying was a pure kodak moment.

good times
 
ah, I remember having some fun in 9th grade. Got the admin password via a dictionary attack, which happened to be the same password they had for VNC on all of the computers, heh. I also remember just doing a "net send * hi" from my comp teachers computer; it didn't occur to me that his computer was on the teacher's workgroup, rather than the students, oops! (I forget why I was on his computer, he let me on though.)
 
I want to try this at school, so what do i have to put in the batch file so it works on sp2 and i dont care if it sends to everyone, my admin wont care because he knows that im into computers. And also cmd is blocked even when i run it from a flash drive.
 
What kind of a nimrod leaves net send enabled in a school?

The admin should be fricking ashamed of himself.

Aside from that. Suspension? Kind of silly for a "punishment." What they should have done is put you in a nice bright orange reflective vest and made you clean trash off the campus.

Extra points if the vest has "Future burger flipper" on the back.
 
just a lesson in why you should always check out commands with a /?

or man *

or even google... lol
 
The whole net send incident I did happened quite some many years ago. I'm sure things sure have changed because of what I've done. Sending "fuck you" to a room full of teachers was rather funny, luckily I got away with it.
 
XOR != OR said:
Holy thread ressurection batman! But yes, 'net send'ing still works just fine, it's the receiving that's been disabled. So a wildcard send should and would work.

We admins don't like it when people do things on our networks that we don't expect. It's nothing personal, the unexpected usually means more work for us, so we like to avoid it where and when possible.
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QFT As a network admin for a school district it just make sense. I have a special group policy just for the Messenger service, no matter what box it is, it's disabled. Then again, they can't run a command prompt or a batch file. And they can only run vbscripts from the NETLOGON share, all the rest get filtered out by my AV.
 
Good times with netsend.
On a totally unrelated point... I hate using my school computers because the resolution is so fucking low. Good god.
 
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