Need help on X570 mb choice for Ryzen 7 3700x (rusty builder here)

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  1. Sparx21

    Sparx21 n00b

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    I need to replace my 7 year old rig, I5 3570 & Asus P8 z77 Vpro. It has been a rock solid system for 7 years, running at 4.28 on air.

    Time for a new system with Win10, since support for Win7 will end.

    At this time, closing in on 70, I don't do any heavy gaming any longer. But, I rather build with the 3700x using a X570 board, and have enough speed in the rig to use it for several years. I do have my current machine overclocked, but overclocking is not one of my strengths, I always needed to follow OC'ing examples and guides to get it done.

    So, I do NOT wish to engage in any lengthy and tedious overclocking, mild OC is fine, but no more extensive tweaking and testing with Prime 95 etc. The current game I play is COD 2, yeah I know funny!

    I would like to get back to some flight sim games as long as the planes are prop driven, so I can keep up! I also use the computer for all record keeping, investing, taxes, images, spreadsheets, databases, etc. Speed is important, but stability and reliability are MORE important.

    My strengths in building are selecting good parts and cooling, have built 4 home grown water cooled systems, but now I run on air and would rather stay that way. Weakness is in BIOS settings as in OCing as I said above, but I can usually get through the rest. I have been told that some of these boards assist in OC'ing, hope that is the case, I would like to do some.

    I have been reading on hardware for about 10 days, and I have decided to go back to AMD, both the web and a knowledgeable young person at Best Buy has convinced me the AMD Ryzen is the way to go. A concern is they seem to run hotter, but I can handle cooling. At first I was leaning toward ABIT, now after seeing a video on this Forum in another "which MB?" thread, I see the ABIT VRM is not good.

    So, unless there is something else it appears to be either ASUS, and I cannot believe I am saying this Gigabyte are the two.

    Years ago, there was usually a few boards most people used, with tons of info in endless threads on the Forums. Now I am not seeing these, to help with component choices. Every time I feel I have found the right board, I read bad reviews posted on Amazon or the Egg, and my confidence is busted, and I start searching again.

    I wish to use 16GB of RAM, and from what I have read 3200 is about the right speed. I have SSD's, hard drives and that other stuff determined, video card is not all that hard to pick.

    Also, I have been on the websites that are "PC Builders" and such, and those provided confusion as well.

    Sorry for the long post, appreciate some ideas. I am leaning to Gigabyte, but I had a very bad experience with them over 10 years back, things do change.

    Cost at or under $300.00

    sparx
     
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  2. Mega6

    Mega6 [H]ard|Gawd

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    Cheap Asus..

    ASUS Prime X570-P Ryzen 3 AM4
     
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  3. Dark12

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    How is the vrm cooling on this?
     
  4. Mega6

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    Good enough. It's a lower end X570 board. You get what you pay for but appears to be adequate,

    VRM


    VRM TEST
    "Between the overbuilt VRM and hefty heatsink, the ASUS Prime X570-Pro thwarted my best attempts to make it thermal throttle."

    So anyways, the full review is there for you.
     
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  5. Dark12

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    I appreciate that sir
     
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  6. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj [H]ard as it Gets

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    The X570-P is not the X570 Pro. Two totally different boards. That being said, the X570-P cuts a lot of corners (e.g. Realtek NIC), but overall has good enough VRM's for a 3700X.
     
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    damn. good point. sorry bad review link. Pro not P Jesus.
     
  8. waderunner

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    If I were buying an X570 board right now (which I might do), I'd grab the ASRock X570 Pro4 on sale at Newegg right now: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157886

    FWIW, you get Realtek ALC1200 sound and Intel i211AT NIC

    VRMs on this should be fine for 3700X stock to mild OC, based on the VRM reference I've been looking at recently
     
  9. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj [H]ard as it Gets

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    That is a nice board except the first PCIe x16 slot is too close to the CPU socket. Asus has a tendency to move it down one spot lower and ASRock has it right next to the I/O shield. If you are using a larger air cooler, you might run into issues with a video card. The X570 Steel Legend has the same issue.

    The Taichi and the Phantom X boards lower it down like on the Asus boards.
     
  10. Forsaken1

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    MSI MEG X570 UNIFY
    Taichi

    Ram
    Flare X 3200 cl14. Any B die 3200 cl14.
    Good luck.
     
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  11. kirbyrj

    kirbyrj [H]ard as it Gets

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    That's over simplification. You don't need to pay the B-die tax to have a good experience anymore. On a 3XXX processor, you'd probably want 3600Mhz Cas 16 RAM anyway rather than 3200Mhz Cas 14.
     
  12. Sparx21

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    I dialed down on the processor, Ryzen 3600. Seriously considering the ASUS 570x Tuf.

    I do appreciate the posts all.
    sparx
     
  13. waderunner

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    Thanks for the tip on the Pro4, I'll take that into consideration. I have an older Taichi, and I see what you mean, just looking at the pics.
     
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  14. Jamie Marsala

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    I have an MSI X570 Gaming Plus and it has been great. Run my EDC and TDC at motherboard max or 192A and 144A and my VRM's stay nice and cool. Measured my heatsinks with an actual Infrared Thermometer and the sit around 40C when running Prime 95 for over 30 minutes. Just normal operation they sit at 30-32C. I do not even ever see the chipset fan turn on. According to HWINFO64 they get up to around 80 with Prime95 running.
     
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