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Hello,

I recently moved from windows on my new pc gaming build. I was able to find a gpu near msrp on stock x for $600. I just received it, its an AMD 6700XT.

I am having problems installing the drivers. I downloaded the package from AMD's site. Unzipped the archive and from that directory.

I am on Linux MINT latest version.

I see the amdgpu-install file, but it will not run.

michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~/Downloads/AMD 6700XT/amdgpu-pro-21.20-1271047-ubuntu-20.04$ ls -l
total 702224
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 1684 Jun 8 20:52 amdgpu_21.20-1271047_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 2212 Jun 8 19:03 amdgpu-core_21.20-1271047_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 6658152 Jun 8 19:05 amdgpu-dkms_5.11.5.26-1271047_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 7846244 Jun 8 19:04 amdgpu-dkms-firmware_5.11.5.26-1271047_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 2852816 Jun 8 19:04 amdgpu-doc_21.20-1271047_all.deb
-rwxr-xr-x 1 michael michael 10967 Jun 8 19:00 amdgpu-install
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 2148 Jun 8 20:52 amdgpu-lib_21.20-1271047_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 1848 Jun 8 20:53 amdgpu-lib32_21.20-1271047_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 2836 Jun 8 20:52 amdgpu-pin_21.20-1271047_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 5324 Jun 8 20:53 amdgpu-pro_21.20-1271047_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 5552 Jun 8 19:03 amdgpu-pro-core_21.20-1271047_all.deb

michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~/Downloads/AMD 6700XT/amdgpu-pro-21.20-1271047-ubuntu-20.04$
michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~/Downloads/AMD 6700XT/amdgpu-pro-21.20-1271047-ubuntu-20.04$ sudo ./amdgpu-install --opencl-pal
[sudo] password for michael:
dpkg-deb: error: failed to read archive '/home/michael/Downloads/AMD': No such file or directory
michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~/Downloads/AMD 6700XT/amdgpu-pro-21.20-1271047-ubuntu-20.04$

Thanks for any help with this.
 
Hello,

I recently moved from windows on my new pc gaming build. I was able to find a gpu near msrp on stock x for $600. I just received it, its an AMD 6700XT.

I am having problems installing the drivers. I downloaded the package from AMD's site. Unzipped the archive and from that directory.

I am on Linux MINT latest version.

I see the amdgpu-install file, but it will not run.

michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~/Downloads/AMD 6700XT/amdgpu-pro-21.20-1271047-ubuntu-20.04$ ls -l
total 702224
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 1684 Jun 8 20:52 amdgpu_21.20-1271047_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 2212 Jun 8 19:03 amdgpu-core_21.20-1271047_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 6658152 Jun 8 19:05 amdgpu-dkms_5.11.5.26-1271047_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 7846244 Jun 8 19:04 amdgpu-dkms-firmware_5.11.5.26-1271047_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 2852816 Jun 8 19:04 amdgpu-doc_21.20-1271047_all.deb
-rwxr-xr-x 1 michael michael 10967 Jun 8 19:00 amdgpu-install
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 2148 Jun 8 20:52 amdgpu-lib_21.20-1271047_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 1848 Jun 8 20:53 amdgpu-lib32_21.20-1271047_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 2836 Jun 8 20:52 amdgpu-pin_21.20-1271047_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 5324 Jun 8 20:53 amdgpu-pro_21.20-1271047_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 michael michael 5552 Jun 8 19:03 amdgpu-pro-core_21.20-1271047_all.deb

michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~/Downloads/AMD 6700XT/amdgpu-pro-21.20-1271047-ubuntu-20.04$
michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~/Downloads/AMD 6700XT/amdgpu-pro-21.20-1271047-ubuntu-20.04$ sudo ./amdgpu-install --opencl-pal
[sudo] password for michael:
dpkg-deb: error: failed to read archive '/home/michael/Downloads/AMD': No such file or directory
michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~/Downloads/AMD 6700XT/amdgpu-pro-21.20-1271047-ubuntu-20.04$

Thanks for any help with this.
Only use the -pro drivers if you really need to. Otherwise the amdgpu driver that was most likely installed by default will serve you just fine!
 
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Looks like the install script is dumb and can't handle a space in the directory name... rename AMD 6700XT to something without a space and it might work.
 
Ok thanks toast0 that was it. I renamed the directory and the install scrip ran!!

I know the default drivers were working just fine, I just wanted to be on the latest updated drivers for performance increases.

Another question, is there a command to tell which driver version is running? Is there an app similar to windows that has gpu options, like overdrive and such?
 
I wouldn't recommend using the drivers provided on AMD's site. Since you are using Mint, you will be behind the latest Mesa which contains the AMD GPU drivers for Linux. Thankfully though, you can use the Mesa PPA since Mint is based on Ubuntu. The Kisak PPA is the one I'd recommend using. You should also probably update to a newer kernel. I'm not sure which kernel Mint is shipping with these days, but it's probably behind in hardware support as Mint is based on Ubuntu 20.04. You're going to want either a HWE kernel or one of the newer mainline kernels. Been a few years since I've used Mint, but back when I did they had a nice utility in the update manager that allowed for installation of newer kernels.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/47062/what-is-terminal-command-that-can-show-opengl-version
The link above will show you how to view your current Mesa version, as well as other information regarding graphics on Linux.
 
`lspci -nk` (or one of these answers) will tell you which kernel driver is in use.

modinfo $DRIVER will tell you the version iirc.
 
Ok here is the kernal versioin I have, do I still need to upgrade? I don't know how to upgrade the kernel.

That driver command didn't work.

michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~$ modinfo $DRIVER
modinfo: ERROR: missing module or filename.


michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~$ lspci -nk
00:00.0 0600: 8086:4c53 (rev 01)
michael@MINT-DESKTOP:~$ modinfo $DRIVER
modinfo: ERROR: missing module or filename.

DeviceName: Onboard - Other
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
00:01.0 0604: 8086:4c01 (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:06.0 0604: 8086:4c09 (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:08.0 0880: 8086:4c11 (rev 01)
DeviceName: Onboard - Other
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
00:14.0 0c03: 8086:43ed (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard - Other
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
00:14.2 0500: 8086:43ef (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard - Other
00:16.0 0780: 8086:43e0 (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard - Other
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
00:17.0 0106: 8086:43d2 (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard - SATA
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
Kernel driver in use: ahci
Kernel modules: ahci
00:1c.0 0604: 8086:43b8 (rev 11)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.4 0604: 8086:43bc (rev 11)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.6 0604: 8086:43be (rev 11)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1f.0 0601: 8086:4385 (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard - Other
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
00:1f.3 0403: 8086:43c8 (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard - Sound
Subsystem: 1462:9d09
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
00:1f.4 0c05: 8086:43a3 (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard - Other
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
00:1f.5 0c80: 8086:43a4 (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard - Other
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
01:00.0 0604: 1002:1478 (rev c1)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
02:00.0 0604: 1002:1479
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
03:00.0 0300: 1002:73df (rev c1)
Subsystem: 1002:0e36
Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
Kernel modules: amdgpu
03:00.1 0403: 1002:ab28
Subsystem: 1002:ab28
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
04:00.0 0108: 144d:a808
Subsystem: 144d:a801
Kernel driver in use: nvme
Kernel modules: nvme
06:00.0 0200: 8086:15f3 (rev 03)
Subsystem: 1462:7d09
Kernel driver in use: igc
Kernel modules: igc
07:00.0 0280: 8086:2725 (rev 1a)
Subsystem: 8086:0024
Kernel modules: iwlwifi
 
You're supposed to switch the $DRIVER to the name of your actual driver to run the command. Of course you can assign the name to the variable $DRIVER also but that would make zero sense.
 
03:00.0 0300: 1002:73df (rev c1)
Subsystem: 1002:0e36
Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
Kernel modules: amdgpu
You're using the open source "amdgpu" kernel driver, btw. If you want to use a different driver (amdgpu-pro, for example) you'd have to blacklist the amdgpu driver at boot or in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file, or uninstall it.

To check amdgpu with modinfo, you'd write that command like this:
modinfo amdgpu
 
You're using the open source "amdgpu" kernel driver, btw. If you want to use a different driver (amdgpu-pro, for example) you'd have to blacklist the amdgpu driver at boot or in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file, or uninstall it.

To check amdgpu with modinfo, you'd write that command like this:
modinfo amdgpu
Just a sidenote, the open source driver is what's recommended to use on AMD gpu's. The pro driver is meant for workstations and the open source driver works better for games generally.
 
Just a sidenote, the open source driver is what's recommended to use on AMD gpu's. The pro driver is meant for workstations and the open source driver works better for games generally.
Yeah, vermillion had already mentioned that. Just wanted to let him know since he had already ran the install script.
 
Any of the PPAs offering DKMS modules? I'd think that'd be a better way to go if any mismatching is happening between kernel versions & driver modules.
 
Ok thanks toast0 that was it. I renamed the directory and the install scrip ran!!

I know the default drivers were working just fine, I just wanted to be on the latest updated drivers for performance increases.

Another question, is there a command to tell which driver version is running? Is there an app similar to windows that has gpu options, like overdrive and such?

The AMD Pro driver will not be a performance increase, the pro drivers are for people doing pro things. If your not running a $10k copy of Houdini or something you are running on Linux. Use the kernel driver and MESA.

What you want is to upgrade to the latest kernel and MESA. That is how you get the latest fastest performing AMD drivers in Linux.

With Mint and other ubuntu distros your going to have to find third party PPA if you want the latest for both... Ubuntu tends to freeze kernels in time, same with Mesa by default they are often running months old versions. You can find PPAs for your package manager to update both. IMO don't bother if your new to Linux and your looking for the latest greatest software at all times, Ubuntu based things like Mint are probably not for you.

My honest suggestion if your looking to game on Linux and you want to have the latest software at all time while still having a pretty stable OS. I would leave Mint... and switch to Manjaro.

The new SteamOS is being rebased on Arch.... Manjaro is the most popular Arch based every day distro around. Arch is rolling which means it gets updates daily. Although arch is very stable... the fact that it is updating daily does mean things can break and if your new to Linux you may not love that. It can also be somewhat annoying to have a GB of updates to do every day, if your not on super fast Internet. Manjaro delays arch updates for testing normally for a week to a month depending on how major a change it is, and they do updates in general weekly unless something needs must be patched up faster. (and if you must really really have that latest version of Mesa that was built an hour ago you can install from Manjaros testing repository)

https://manjaro.org/

If you give Manjaro a whirl just forget AMDs GPUpro driver... it is not for average users. AMD not only suggests you use the kernel driver and mesa they actually contribute to it. The Linux default AMD driver is maintained by AMD, its not some free back engineered thing like the free Nvidia driver. AMD a few years back officially supported the open source drivers.... their Pro driver is just that its for workstation users, and the only things that require it are things your not likely running. Again unless your really running something like Houdini at home so you can do effects work for Hollywood. Or if your editing 8k video or something in Davinci resolve, I understand Resolve requires the AMDPro OpenGL stuff. For gaming the opensource driver is going to be 10-20% faster basically at all times.

If you are planning to game on Steam with proton ect... its all expecting you to be running the open source driver. AMD Linux support ROCKS. Just install and forget. I suggest Manjaro for anyone that wants to game... Its arch with a simple installer and a little more sane update approach. Its super user friendly... while remaining 99% arch which means all the arch support out their the arch wiki ect mostly applies to Manjaro. For gaming with Manjaro its mostly a case of install Manjaro... install Steam from the package manager.... click your games and play. With AMD you need to do nothing more.
 
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If your still watching the thread... Michael at Phoronix actually just did a comparison of AMDs Vulkan driver vs the MESA RadV driver. AMD supports both (their pro driver really is just that its intended for their workstation cards) they suggest Mesa RadV for game use. Anyway Here is a link and the conclusion. Its not even close for gaming MESA is 50-60% faster most of the time... with the the AMD driver having the odd outlier where it performs the same or very rarely slightly better. In most cases the MESA driver is not just a little but a lot faster.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=radv-amdvlk-july21&num=1

"For the Radeon RX 6800 XT as well as what we continue seeing out of older Radeon GPUs, the Mesa RADV option continues serving as a much better open-source AMD Vulkan driver than the company's own AMDVLK for most Linux gaming purposes. There are a few exceptions in some games, but overall the RADV driver tends to perform better and more reliable thanks to all of the work by Valve contractors and others on driving this Mesa Radeon Vulkan driver forward."
 
Ok thanks for all the great helpful info on this. I will get the kernal updated.
 
This is the reason Linux still cannot replace Windows as a user friendly alternative OS. When things go wrong, it's still a PITA to do simple things as installing a driver. I just recently tried Linux again after 10 years. Manjaro boasted about being very easy. Well my laptop Intel wireless card is apparently not supported by the recent kernel; And getting it to work involves multiple terminal commands. No thanks. I deleted the OS and went back to Windows. The average person like me is not going to jump through Linux hoops to get their hardware to work.
 
This is the reason Linux still cannot replace Windows as a user friendly alternative OS. When things go wrong, it's still a PITA to do simple things as installing a driver. I just recently tried Linux again after 10 years. Manjaro boasted about being very easy. Well my laptop Intel wireless card is apparently not supported by the recent kernel; And getting it to work involves multiple terminal commands. No thanks. I deleted the OS and went back to Windows. The average person like me is not going to jump through Linux hoops to get their hardware to work.
Out of curiosity what model Intel wi fi card do you Have ?

I ask for reference...as I have never seen an actual current Intel card not supported directly by the kernel. So it would be nice to know.

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi
Most Intel cards should just work. Drivers are part of the kernel. If its a really old card its possible the drivers have already been removed from the kernel... in which case running an old kernel is one option, and perhaps recompiling a custom kernel is another. (although if the hardware is that old probably best just to run an old LTS kernel.) No idea if that is the case the only Intel wifi cards that have been deprecated are over a decade old, However if like many people you are testing out linux on a very old machine its one possible answer.
 
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It's obvious that celvin doesn't have what it takes to use linux. First minor problem, immediately give up. He fails to understand that if linux was sold like Windows, consumers would get preconfigured packages with their hardware much like Steam deck does. Zero problems.
 
It's obvious that celvin doesn't have what it takes to use linux. First minor problem, immediately give up. He fails to understand that if linux was sold like Windows, consumers would get preconfigured packages with their hardware much like Steam deck does. Zero problems.
Lol, cute personal attack boon. So very wrong too. Desktop Linux SUCKS and everyone knows it, hence its 1 percent marketshare.

Op's first mistake, Linux. Second mistake, amd.
 
Lol, cute personal attack boon. So very wrong too. Desktop Linux SUCKS and everyone knows it, hence its 1 percent marketshare.

Op's first mistake, Linux. Second mistake, amd.
Well you're blatantly wrong. Your mistake is not evolving past the fisher&price OS. You're just cattle.
 
Out of curiosity what model Intel wi fi card do you Have ?

I ask for reference...as I have never seen an actual current Intel card not supported directly by the kernel. So it would be nice to know.

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi
Most Intel cards should just work. Drivers are part of the kernel. If its a really old card its possible the drivers have already been removed from the kernel... in which case running an old kernel is one option, and perhaps recompiling a custom kernel is another. (although if the hardware is that old probably best just to run an old LTS kernel.) No idea if that is the case the only Intel wifi cards that have been deprecated are over a decade old, However if like many people you are testing out linux on a very old machine its one possible answer.
Intel 9260 card. I read multiple post on other forums that says it's not supported or problematic at best on kernel 5.10.
 
It's obvious that celvin doesn't have what it takes to use linux. First minor problem, immediately give up. He fails to understand that if linux was sold like Windows, consumers would get preconfigured packages with their hardware much like Steam deck does. Zero problems.
I admittedly don't. I want an OS to work out of the box without having to know shell commands to make it work. I simply don't have that patience level especially when Apple and Microsoft alternatives are effortless in comparison.
 
I admittedly don't. I want an OS to work out of the box without having to know shell commands to make it work. I simply don't have that patience level especially when Apple and Microsoft alternatives are effortless in comparison.
Well if you find a hardware that's not compatible with those two (which your hardware obviously is regarding to linux), you'll end up in a situation that's even more difficult than with linux.
 
Intel 9260 card. I read multiple post on other forums that says it's not supported or problematic at best on kernel 5.10.
According to Intel, support has been there since 4.14.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/wireless.html

One user with a Dell laptop had to simply enable wifi by pressing fn+printscreen button, which was the only reason wifi didn't work. 5.x kernels did have problems with wifi around 5.3 but 5.10 should have a lot of regressions fixed.
 
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Probably installed a kernel that lacked the built module. Personally, I prefer Xanmod or Liquorix (including headers) over the base kernel provided with any Arch-based distro. Another way is to get a dkms module if its not there.

Xanmod: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=xanmod&outdated=&SB=n&SO=a&PP=50&do_Search=Go
Liquorix: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=liquorix&outdated=&SB=n&SO=a&PP=50&do_Search=Go
iwlwifi: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=iwlwifi&outdated=&SB=n&SO=a&PP=50&do_Search=Go
 
Also may need to install a firmware package if it's not included with the driver and not installed by default (which is common on many distros, especially ones which dislike non-free firmware/drivers).

Debian has a firmware-iwlwifi package, and I think Arch has an firmware-intel or firmware-linux package. You may have to enable a non-free repository, depending on which distribution you are using
 
Intel 9260 card. I read multiple post on other forums that says it's not supported or problematic at best on kernel 5.10.
Thanks. I won't try and espouse on ways to fix. After some light reading indeed it looks like something regressed with newer kernels on the 9260. Its only a 4 or 5 year old card so that is annoying. Sorry you had a bad experience out of the gate. In general you should be able to just install and go with Intel cards, Intels support tends to be pretty good. One further question just for interests sake... Dual Boot ? Not that it shouldn't be able to I was just reading some posts suggesting it might be some setting left behind by the windows driver that is the source of the regression. If that is the case its disappointing that Intel hasn't sent the kernel team updated code at already. Intel and some of the other good Linux supporting companies usually fix regressions... honesty in Intels case regressions don't normally happen as they do create the Kernel drivers themselves. (although they might not be keeping the eye on consumer devices they ought to be it would seem)

On the Linux stuff... I hope at some point your able to give Linux another try. I remember some of the annoyances I ran into when I first used Linux... but some of us Linux heads forget that we fully expected that 15 20 years back and now we all say its easy peasy. lol (it normally is honest)
 
One further question just for interests sake... Dual Boot ? Not that it shouldn't be able to I was just reading some posts suggesting it might be some setting left behind by the windows driver that is the source of the regression.
No, I purposely wiped out windows and started fresh to avoid dual boot headaches. It's all good. in a few years I will try it again.
 
No, I purposely wiped out windows and started fresh to avoid dual boot headaches. It's all good. in a few years I will try it again.
Cool, I'd say give the new Steam OS a try when Steam gets it out. However I doubt they do anything special in regard to Intel WifI drivers. (any optimization will probably focus on the Deck) For laptops I have heard PopOS is one of the better options as System76 sells plenty of Linux Laptops... but I'm not sure if they have done anything special to directly support the 9260. (they have been selling Intel based Linux laptops for years so perhaps) If you do decide in the next little bit to give it one more shot. As much as I say manjaro is the best distro going... perhaps Pop wouldn't be a terrible 30 min experiment. Anyway thanks for responding. I learned 9260 is a ? good to know thanks. o7
 
Linux is in a way better spot now than it was in previous years, but not everything is plug and play, especially on an old system or laptop.

I just built a new machine, and did a lot of research on each specific part (and a few guesses) but everything works. Granted, it did take setup and configuration, and the command line was needed.

But this is not a bad thing. Most of the time you can fix it if you look hard enough. It takes a different mindset, and I don't expect it is for everyone. But you have a lot of power to make your system exactly how you want it to be.

That said, there are still things that don't work fully, I can't use FreeSync on Ubuntu right now, HDR is not supported at all, ray tracing for Windows games is in development. And a few smaller issues like with the screensaver.

But overall the system is stable and it runs nicely. I still have dual boot Windows because I need it for school, and also I develop games so I need to test on Windows as well. But I might boot into Windows like once a week, I'm pretty much all Ubuntu these days.
 
Linux is in a way better spot now than it was in previous years, but not everything is plug and play, especially on an old system or laptop.

I just built a new machine, and did a lot of research on each specific part (and a few guesses) but everything works. Granted, it did take setup and configuration, and the command line was needed.

But this is not a bad thing. Most of the time you can fix it if you look hard enough. It takes a different mindset, and I don't expect it is for everyone. But you have a lot of power to make your system exactly how you want it to be.

That said, there are still things that don't work fully, I can't use FreeSync on Ubuntu right now, HDR is not supported at all, ray tracing for Windows games is in development. And a few smaller issues like with the screensaver.

But overall the system is stable and it runs nicely. I still have dual boot Windows because I need it for school, and also I develop games so I need to test on Windows as well. But I might boot into Windows like once a week, I'm pretty much all Ubuntu these days.
I have proved that if you give a random person a preconfigured linux box, they will use it just as happily as Windows or a Mac. The only difficult part in linux is that it's pretty much impossible to buy off the shelf so setting it up requires a little bit of knowledge and tinkering (although for some users, plain vanilla setup is plenty enough). For my mother I had to resort to a couple of hacks in order to make a couple of streaming websites work (they were using the abhorrent Microsoft Silverlight technology which is mercifully now dead and buried as it should have been from the start).
 
I admittedly don't. I want an OS to work out of the box without having to know shell commands to make it work. I simply don't have that patience level especially when Apple and Microsoft alternatives are effortless in comparison.
look i've been dipping my toes into linux for over a decade now but always keep windows around because i'm a gamer. with that being said out of ALL the distros i've messed with, the closest, most hassle free, windows like distro i've used is FerenOS ... even better than Zorin. I had NO issues with it, it has several different desktop layouts to match win7, win10, osx (boo) and ubuntu that you can switch between with just a click. got office pre installed as well as Vivaldi browser which is what i use in windows. and it's "app store" is a breeze to use to which i used to install solitaire because it's so good I installed it on my grandmothers old as laptop that originally shipped with vista. but that's how much confidence i have in this distro. so if you guys haven't tried FerenOS you don't know what you're missing. peace.
 
look i've been dipping my toes into linux for over a decade now but always keep windows around because i'm a gamer. with that being said out of ALL the distros i've messed with, the closest, most hassle free, windows like distro i've used is FerenOS ... even better than Zorin. I had NO issues with it, it has several different desktop layouts to match win7, win10, osx (boo) and ubuntu that you can switch between with just a click. got office pre installed as well as Vivaldi browser which is what i use in windows. and it's "app store" is a breeze to use to which i used to install solitaire because it's so good I installed it on my grandmothers old as laptop that originally shipped with vista. but that's how much confidence i have in this distro. so if you guys haven't tried FerenOS you don't know what you're missing. peace.
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ferenos

Practically just Ubuntu with KDE Plasma. I'll stick with Arch-based distros.
 
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ferenos

Practically just Ubuntu with KDE Plasma. I'll stick with Arch-based distros.
wrong. it's now debian based with a custom kde plasma desktop. (you forgot to scroll down on that page) you can do what you want, but for everyone else, it may be worth at least checking out on youtube or something, ESPECIALLY to those new to linux and windows headz. but may not be the most "prefered" for command prompt heavy linux snobs? (idk, i like it)

basically most problem free and windows like linux experience i've ever had. everything just works.
 
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d3athf1sh I'll give it a try as a VM just to test. No need to blow up at me about the difference between Ubuntu & Debian being the base. Either way, I'm not a fan of Debian-based OSes.

Another one that might be of interest to the same crowd is Drauger OS (optimized for gaming). Personally, I prefer Salient OS (Arch-based) for such. For simplicity on the Arch-based side, in similarity to Feren OS, I recommend Endeavour OS.
https://draugeros.org/
https://salientos.github.io/
https://endeavouros.com/
 
d3athf1sh I'll give it a try as a VM just to test. No need to blow up at me about the difference between Ubuntu & Debian being the base. Either way, I'm not a fan of Debian-based OSes.
Another one that might be of interest to the same crowd is Drauger OS (optimized for gaming). Personally, I prefer Salient OS (Arch-based) for such. For simplicity on the Arch-based side, in similarity to Feren OS, I recommend Endeavour OS.
https://draugeros.org/
https://salientos.github.io/
https://endeavouros.com/
all good brotha, i'll give em a look too. was just putting it out there for [H]ardcore windows people, that FerenOS may just be the most foolproof way to finally get them weened off of windows and make them finally feel at home on linux.? been my daily driver for a while now. and like i said i even put it on my grandma's laptop. i know noone knows me, but that's saying something. ✌️
 
all good brotha, i'll give em a look too. was just putting it out there for [H]ardcore windows people, that FerenOS may just be the most foolproof way to finally get them weened off of windows and make them finally feel at home on linux.? been my daily driver for a while now. and like i said i even put it on my grandma's laptop. i know noone knows me, but that's saying something. ✌️
Everyone needs to start somewhere. Most hardcore windows people just have a hard time with having to learn basics again. :) It feels like they learned computer basics 20-30-40 years back and don't want to start from the start. (which if they are true [H] folks they aren't really starting at zero I mean they understand the true basics partitions basic text editing ect)

People get freaked out about "having" to use the command line. But its just the easiest way to get things done. I have no idea what Desktop Env your running, or what kernel version ect... trying to tell somewhere click here here and here when I have no idea what their setup is won't work. However no matter what Distro your running with what DE and which compositor or the latest or 4 year old kernel your using. If you open a terminal and type uname -a I know instantly what kernel your booted on ect ect.

Those hardcore MS cultists will come around at some point. I have faith. I'm sure most of them will even come around on the terminal. Linux isn't really that complicated. Not when you consider just how complex Windows actually is. Registries multiple /user locations individual drivers for every hardware bit no real package management (which means year+ old windows installs in general are a mess). Its just the mess most people know... and re learning basic things for many people is difficult to deal with. lol

Never looked at Feren might have to check it out just to see it. Like Crimson I'm not a big debian fan... but I try to keep up on what's interesting. My real hope for many of the hardcore windows holdouts (who are almost always some form of gamer) is the new SteamOS. The more I look at the deck the more I want on. I'm going to be honest... I'm starting to think it might be the ultimate Linux portable. Wondering if I can justify picking one up for on site calls.... on screen keyboard and lack of IO would probably be the killer on that idea. Still onscreen keyboard might just get me to script up all the things I say I will and never bother. lol :)
 
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