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My Case arrived!
Timeline for others reference:
Ordered: 9/23 with $45 shipping option (1-4 weeks)
Expected ship: 9/28-10/2
Actual ship: 9/28
Arrival: 10/7 (9 days later)
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NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)
- Thread starter wahaha360
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Timeline for others reference:
Ordered: 9/23 with $45 shipping option (1-4 weeks)
Expected ship: 9/28-10/2
Actual ship: 9/28
Arrival: 10/7 (9 days later)
FYI, you can't fit anything but a really stubby cared with an sfx-l PSU at least not with the silverstone SX800-lti and how the power connectors protrude. Sigh. SO do I go hunting down a new psu that doesn't exist or a new case that will take a month to arrive?
I think that the 3080 is going to seal me giving up on the NCase M1. It was nice, but I'm just feeling too constrained vs new video cards. It was pushing it before.
Aiming for compact mATX now, currently waiting on a Jonsbo UMX3 case to arrive (compact, fits most 3080s, still in silver color scheme) + Ryzen 5 to finish the build.
Aiming for compact mATX now, currently waiting on a Jonsbo UMX3 case to arrive (compact, fits most 3080s, still in silver color scheme) + Ryzen 5 to finish the build.
Finally I got the EVGA RTX3090 and it fits very good in the ncase.
I just wanted to make sure I have thre right fan setup.
Currently: 2 Fans underneath the Card, one Side intake and 90mm out in the back.
CPU is 3700x. Temps are at the moment 75°C for CPU and 80°C for the RTX.
I just wanted to make sure I have thre right fan setup.
Currently: 2 Fans underneath the Card, one Side intake and 90mm out in the back.
CPU is 3700x. Temps are at the moment 75°C for CPU and 80°C for the RTX.
GnomeCop
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Good to see that the card fits just fine. Did you have to do any special or in a certain order to get the card in there?
What version of the ncase do you have?
This looks to be the same fan setup that I use (albeit with a 2070 rather than a 3090, and a different CPU).
Do you have the fans underneath the card as intakes or exhausts?
GnomeCop
Nothing special. I had to remove the x570 fan from the GB X570 I Board to have a little more room to put it in the PCIe Slot. The backplate seems to be a little bit higher than my GTX 980 backplate.. After that I screwed it in again.No problems. I also orderd the Removable Front I/O kit but i didn't need it. Its v3.0.
I'm using a SF600 at no problems at all.
Bawjaws
The underneath fans are intake
Nothing special. I had to remove the x570 fan from the GB X570 I Board to have a little more room to put it in the PCIe Slot. The backplate seems to be a little bit higher than my GTX 980 backplate.. After that I screwed it in again.No problems. I also orderd the Removable Front I/O kit but i didn't need it. Its v3.0.
I'm using a SF600 at no problems at all.
Bawjaws
The underneath fans are intake
Sadly, as much as I loved using this case, I had to rebuild my machine when Nvidia RMA'd my GPU with a graphics card which no longer fit into the Ncase M1. Sucked, I loved this case and didn't want to rebuild. Alas, now I have already rebuilt my machine and I need to sell the Ncase M1. I have a M1 V5 (this case version 5) for sale in the ad section here: https://hardforum.com/threads/fs-nc...u-noctua-fans-xbox-one-500gb-console.2003285/
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Damn, sick build!
rfarmer
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Max width for GPUs is 140mm at it widest point, the EK block for the TUF is 148mm. You would probably do better with the FE.
Guys can I get some advice on air cooling the M1. I am likely going with an AMD 5900x or 5950x and a 3080 or 6800xt.
I did some research and the Noctua NH-U9S with a second fan seems good for the cooler. Anything better?
Any advice on other fans and the best orientation?
I was thinking cpu fans as exhaust and bottom as intake with Noctua NF-F12 PWM
Lastly what is the best amd motherboard for this case please?
Thanks
I did some research and the Noctua NH-U9S with a second fan seems good for the cooler. Anything better?
Any advice on other fans and the best orientation?
I was thinking cpu fans as exhaust and bottom as intake with Noctua NF-F12 PWM
Lastly what is the best amd motherboard for this case please?
Thanks
hello
I have an old case Ncase m1 v5.0 with graphic evga 1080ti sc included...
i have planed to take evga 3080 xc3 but i can't find it, and only choice i have MSI 3080 Ventus but it worries me length of the card and my old version of case.... can you guys give me advice
thx
I have an old case Ncase m1 v5.0 with graphic evga 1080ti sc included...
i have planed to take evga 3080 xc3 but i can't find it, and only choice i have MSI 3080 Ventus but it worries me length of the card and my old version of case.... can you guys give me advice
thx
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Fits nice and easy! 
Now this GPU has all three fans in exhaust.
Can someone please advise:
I would love to go for a deshroud unless I am better off just adding exhaust fans in the bottom of the case? I think deshroud would be ideal to create a silent beast.
Looks like a deshroud will be difficult without a dremel. Any ideas?
What would be the best fans and fan orientations given this gpu for the full build if I do deshroud?
I like Noctua so I am thinking:
2 x NF-A12x25 for the deshroid gpu (intake?)
NH-U95 with an extra fan (intake)
Any other fans needed if there are mesh sides?
Thank you all and to @paulesko and @MrTorgue for being so helpful
| EVGA | XC3 | 285.37 | 111.15 | 2.2-slot | Yes | Confirmed by user |
Now this GPU has all three fans in exhaust.
Can someone please advise:
I would love to go for a deshroud unless I am better off just adding exhaust fans in the bottom of the case? I think deshroud would be ideal to create a silent beast.
Looks like a deshroud will be difficult without a dremel. Any ideas?
What would be the best fans and fan orientations given this gpu for the full build if I do deshroud?
I like Noctua so I am thinking:
2 x NF-A12x25 for the deshroid gpu (intake?)
NH-U95 with an extra fan (intake)
Any other fans needed if there are mesh sides?
Thank you all and to @paulesko and @MrTorgue for being so helpful
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I have a compatibility list here.
Lucky me, a coworker snagged an EVGA 3080 XC Ultra he's letting me have at cost. Looks like I'll need to swap out my 25mm bottom fans for 15mm ones, but it should fit. If I had my druthers I'd have got the FE, but one perk of the EVGA is better waterblock options.
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Dang this is a big card. I'll have to swap out those bottom fans for 15mm versions, but should work just fine
Deshroud and put three THICC 92/80 mm fans?
I have some plans for this bad boy. Should have a Heatkiller V waterblock in my hands in about a monthDeshroud and put three THICC 92/80 mm fans?
exzacklyright
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My AIO is dying cooling my 9900k in my Ncase m1
Any suggestions on replacement? I've heard Air Cooling won't be enough for my 9900k in the Ncase M1...
It was 60+C in bios (default settings) and curerntly on boot up this is what it got to...
Kraken X52, X53, Cooler Master MasterLiquid LC240, Corsair H100i, etc?
Any suggestions on replacement? I've heard Air Cooling won't be enough for my 9900k in the Ncase M1...
It was 60+C in bios (default settings) and curerntly on boot up this is what it got to...
Kraken X52, X53, Cooler Master MasterLiquid LC240, Corsair H100i, etc?
SmootyPoody
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What specific cooler are you using. That seems way off normal. Are you sure its mounted correct?
I had a Corsair H100i RGB Platinum (with 3x Noctua A12X25 PWM - 2 on the outside and 1 inside facing the pump) cooling my 9900K OCed to... was it 4.7 or 4.8. I dont remember. It would draw about 170-180W (HWinfo) with max load in Prime95 (small FFT I think). It would run pretty hot but it is a synthetic bench so not really usable for practical knowhow. I think about 75-80c with 100% RPM. It could draw up to 250W with Prime95 AVX512 and maxing out the H100i Platinum where the CPU would reach 95-105c. Again its a synthetic benchmark and as such I was satifsfied with the result.
With my Notcua C14 (not S) it would hit about 85-90c depending on fan speed. I spoke with Nanook who also had a 9900K (dont know if he still has) and he meant that there was potential for better temps. But it will also vary from chip to chip.
Air cooling is defintely enough. It depends on what OC and what workload you expect. All my results are synthetic. In gaming I sit around 60 and rarely go over 70.
You can see all my testing here:
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Hi all I have a V5 Ncase and just added a 3080 FE model to replace a deshrouded 1080Ti. Fits nicely but the way it directs air through the back end of the card means it’s not working well with the current cooling solution. It probably doesn’t help that my cabling is an unholy mess.
so.
current cooling setup is a Dark Rock TF CPU cooler and two noiseblocker fans as intake in the bottom of the case. It’s not enough And the FE is hitting 81c in Timespy with the side off. So I need to completely rethink the cooling and prepared to swap it all out for something else.
I prefer not to use water, even AIO, because there’s just more to go wrong and a custom loop is beyond my ability.
I’m already using the shorter cable set for the SF600 which helps reduce the amount of stuff in the case and have ordered the custom Corsair 12-pin cable so I don’t have to use the adapter which came with the FE - that will also help with clutter. I have a Corsair SF750 on order but in the meantime it’s sort of working with the old SF600 so I may see how that goes with bit of undervolting and perhaps send it back. I expect that the 750 with all that headroom will be generally quieter though and I can repurpose the 600.
so where should I go? A Noctua NH U9S will allow me to put a 120x25mm fan next to it on the bracket to improve airflow. Do I keep the bottom 120x25mm fans or replace them With something else?
if AIO is the way to go, which one? And again do I stick with the bottom fans as they are?
Grateful for any thoughts or suggestions please.
quick summary of specs;
CPU Intel i7 8700k delidded But not overclocked
gigabyte Z970N wifi motherboard
Be Quiet! dark Rock TF cooler exhaust left side (which seems like a waste of the dust mesh TBH)
Some ram with heat sink removed because that cooler is a beast
SF600 gold PSU exhaust right
RTX 3080 FE
2x Noise Blocker e loop 120x25mm fans intake bottom
im never going to have a picture-perfect clean setup but I do want one which maintains reasonable temps and doesn’t sound like a 747 taking off.
so.
current cooling setup is a Dark Rock TF CPU cooler and two noiseblocker fans as intake in the bottom of the case. It’s not enough And the FE is hitting 81c in Timespy with the side off. So I need to completely rethink the cooling and prepared to swap it all out for something else.
I prefer not to use water, even AIO, because there’s just more to go wrong and a custom loop is beyond my ability.
I’m already using the shorter cable set for the SF600 which helps reduce the amount of stuff in the case and have ordered the custom Corsair 12-pin cable so I don’t have to use the adapter which came with the FE - that will also help with clutter. I have a Corsair SF750 on order but in the meantime it’s sort of working with the old SF600 so I may see how that goes with bit of undervolting and perhaps send it back. I expect that the 750 with all that headroom will be generally quieter though and I can repurpose the 600.
so where should I go? A Noctua NH U9S will allow me to put a 120x25mm fan next to it on the bracket to improve airflow. Do I keep the bottom 120x25mm fans or replace them With something else?
if AIO is the way to go, which one? And again do I stick with the bottom fans as they are?
Grateful for any thoughts or suggestions please.
quick summary of specs;
CPU Intel i7 8700k delidded But not overclocked
gigabyte Z970N wifi motherboard
Be Quiet! dark Rock TF cooler exhaust left side (which seems like a waste of the dust mesh TBH)
Some ram with heat sink removed because that cooler is a beast
SF600 gold PSU exhaust right
RTX 3080 FE
2x Noise Blocker e loop 120x25mm fans intake bottom
im never going to have a picture-perfect clean setup but I do want one which maintains reasonable temps and doesn’t sound like a 747 taking off.
rfarmer
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The best setup I have seen so far is rear fan as intake, NH-U9S blowing toward front of case, 2 bottom intake fans and a 120mm fan on the bracket as exhaust. This way both the CPU and GPU exhaust go out the side and the CPU isn't recycling the hot air from the GPU. I'm running a delidded 8700k in my Ghost with a NH-L12 Ghost Edition and cooling is really good, the U9S should be even better.
Hi rfarmer thank you! I recall you were helpful ‘back in the day’ when I put the original setup together. I’m not looking to do anything whizzy, just want to be able to put the side on the case and not have it turn into a storage heater.
I used to run (and still occasionally use) a Silverstone ML-07 based system and that runs on positive pressure and I am a real fan of that arrangement. I only ever had to open it up once and it was remarkably dust free. On the other fand my Ncase needs regular dusting off.
To me, exhausting a fan out through mesh is a huge waste and feels really wrong but if it gives the right temps then I’ll go with the (air) flow.
I can go for a nice black NH-9 and chromax 120mm fan to keep the dark and moody going - what’s the normal recommendation for a rear fan? Just a 92x25 noctua there as well?
I used to run (and still occasionally use) a Silverstone ML-07 based system and that runs on positive pressure and I am a real fan of that arrangement. I only ever had to open it up once and it was remarkably dust free. On the other fand my Ncase needs regular dusting off.
To me, exhausting a fan out through mesh is a huge waste and feels really wrong but if it gives the right temps then I’ll go with the (air) flow.
I can go for a nice black NH-9 and chromax 120mm fan to keep the dark and moody going - what’s the normal recommendation for a rear fan? Just a 92x25 noctua there as well?
rfarmer
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I agree, I am not a fan of exhaust out the side but with the peculiar exhaust of the FE it seems to work best. Yes just a 92x25 which you can also get in Chromax, I have one on my NH-L12 GE.
In terms of the fan spec I’m quite confused about what is needed. There’s lots of options. I assume 4 pin & 12v for the Motherboard connector and variable control I think but I suspect I don’t want ultra low noise as much as efficiency. So assume a 92x25 (not 14) for the back and an A or S class 120x25 for the side bracket and I’m golden. Or more likely beige
Fun fact - the Airflow from the card now impacts my M2 SSD which means it flies way over its limits and causes the system overheat. I have an M2 slot on the back of the motherboard which I can use instead but that was an unexpected development and direct result of the airflow from these beastly cards.
I Have a V5 case and due to circumstances outside my control have to replace the motherboard with something more modern. I would therefore like to get the new front plate which is currently out of stock on the Ncase site. Are there other sources for this part?
Hi my pc is already running in open build. Ncase is only on the way to me. Unfortunately, the first of the three fans has a bearing damage with me I hope the exchange that I get a 2 te and then send the old back ( caseking )
Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX
5600x
ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 OC
Noctua NH-U9S
Corsair SF Series SF750
a few questions would have arisen with me now.
1.) Fan damage with the first fan... is that automatically a replacement or can you possibly replace the fan itself ? For 960 euros the grinding annoys me tremendously. Is not a coil whine.
2.) I can not mount my 2nd fan on the NH-U9s there where the connectors are ( IO Shield ) is a massive protection / heat sink in the way. But according to the pictures I can mount it at the rear fan ( ) so I don't need to worry when the case is there ? In order to fit the second NF-A9 to the back of the case, I needed to remove two of the anti-vibration pads from the fan. This way it fits snuggly between the back-left corner of the case (when looking at the case front-on) and the rear IO panel/box of the motherboard. This seems to work well - there's no vibration - however I'm unsure if this is safe long term due to how snug the fit is. ". Maybe you bought the wrong motherboard for the case ? The C14s would not improve the problem either or ?
thanks
I hope the exchange that I get a 2 te and then send the old back ( caseking )Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX
5600x
ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3080 OC
Noctua NH-U9S
Corsair SF Series SF750
a few questions would have arisen with me now.
1.) Fan damage with the first fan... is that automatically a replacement or can you possibly replace the fan itself ? For 960 euros the grinding annoys me tremendously. Is not a coil whine.
2.) I can not mount my 2nd fan on the NH-U9s there where the connectors are ( IO Shield ) is a massive protection / heat sink in the way. But according to the pictures I can mount it at the rear fan ( ) so I don't need to worry when the case is there ? In order to fit the second NF-A9 to the back of the case, I needed to remove two of the anti-vibration pads from the fan. This way it fits snuggly between the back-left corner of the case (when looking at the case front-on) and the rear IO panel/box of the motherboard. This seems to work well - there's no vibration - however I'm unsure if this is safe long term due to how snug the fit is. ". Maybe you bought the wrong motherboard for the case ? The C14s would not improve the problem either or ?
thanks
Anyone have recommedations for rubber pads on these square 3D printed feet replacements?
Pretty much everything I can find on eBay and Amazon (UK) seems to be the same foam pads by differerent sellers so would be good to have some other options.
Pretty much everything I can find on eBay and Amazon (UK) seems to be the same foam pads by differerent sellers so would be good to have some other options.
I finally completed my dual radiator NCASE build. Posted some pictures in the build log here for anyone interested:
https://hardforum.com/threads/itx-epos7-liquid-cooled-ncase.2005815/
https://hardforum.com/threads/itx-epos7-liquid-cooled-ncase.2005815/
Regarding the power limit mentioned in the last paragraph, would this also apply K SKU (10700K or 10850K) if using one of these Asrock H410M motherboards?
Or do you reckon that would work fine at stock speed and turbo boost?
Sorry quoting so far back, its just that I stumbled on these H410M-HDV and H410-HDV/M.2 and realized it might be nice upgrade from my H81 Mini-DTX motherboard in my Ncase v1.
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I did that. Turns out it was coil whine
Learn from me. Make extra sure it's not coil whine.