NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

I'm partial to Asus boards, so I'd say the Asus but I don't think you can go wrong either way. I'm also partial to the Corsair line of PSUs. My Silverstone SF450 had an annoying coil whine at loads, the Corsair SF450 has 'something' of a noise there but definitely not a loud whine like before. I'd go the Corsair PSU wise.

Thank you for your suggestion. I just wanted to clarify if there will be an issue on my cpu cooler because of that giant looking I/O shield. I guess i'll go with the corsair sf600 just dont know when the platinum be available again.
 
Thank you for your suggestion. I just wanted to clarify if there will be an issue on my cpu cooler because of that giant looking I/O shield. I guess i'll go with the corsair sf600 just dont know when the platinum be available again.
sf 600 platinum, I have only seen the gold. Which is on amazon at the moment.
 
what psu do you currently use? anandtech's review of the 450 platinum suggests it's a very similar fan but pwm. I'm eager to hear if that makes a difference vs. the sf600 gold, even anecdotally

I have the SF450 gold. Will try to test it this weekend if I have my new part. I'm trying to put a 9900k in the M1 hehe.
 
Do you think a build with an intel i9 9900k and an nvidia rtx 2080 will produce good temperature in the Ncase?
 
Hey guys quick question on cooling. Going through my stock of parts and found an unused Noctua NH-C12P SE14.

Would that be better for overclocking in the Ncase than my existing NH-U9S? I currently have it vertical with two fans pushing upwards and a third fan outside the rear vent as an exhaust.

I am also using the HDD cage - figment shouldn’t be an issue right?
 
Ok I deserved this answer :yawn:
Let me rephrase. Is the cooling capacity of the N1 case good enough for such load?

Dunno, I've never heard of an N1 case before.

All joking aside, welcome to the forums. The M1 is capable of handling a lot of heat. Under synthetic stress tests the 9900k can reach pretty high temps. That's to be expected when you clock eight cores to 5.0ghz and beyond. But under a real load they won't be as hot. A good rule of thumb is figuring out the most effective way to get the heat out.

I believe that if you use the U9S exhausting with side 120mm intake option, as well as an accelero iii on the gpu with exhausting 120mm fans, you should be more than okay with temps.
 
Hey guys quick question on cooling. Going through my stock of parts and found an unused Noctua NH-C12P SE14.

Would that be better for overclocking in the Ncase than my existing NH-U9S? I currently have it vertical with two fans pushing upwards and a third fan outside the rear vent as an exhaust.

I am also using the HDD cage - figment shouldn’t be an issue right?

I've got a C12p SE14 cooling a stock clock 4770k. I even upgraded the fan to the newer 150mm circular Noctua that uses 140mm fan mounts. It stays nice and quiet under any real workload or game, but it hits 100c in prime95 small ffts if that matters for you.

If you don't have a fan to pair it with yet, the new A12 Noctua fans may actually work better because of how much overhang there is on the larger fans, but I haven't taken the $30 plunge to find out.

I also haven't replaced the thermal compund since 2013...
 
I've got a C12p SE14 cooling a stock clock 4770k. I even upgraded the fan to the newer 150mm circular Noctua that uses 140mm fan mounts. It stays nice and quiet under any real workload or game, but it hits 100c in prime95 small ffts if that matters for you.

If you don't have a fan to pair it with yet, the new A12 Noctua fans may actually work better because of how much overhang there is on the larger fans, but I haven't taken the $30 plunge to find out.

I also haven't replaced the thermal compund since 2013...
what fans is that?
I want buy one for my c14S
 
Anyone who intends to put a 9900k in his m1 I can say it works quite well, Temps are not different from a 8700k

My setup
Board: asrock z370 Fatal1ty itx gaming with the latest bios
Graka:1080ti founders
Water aio : corsair h100i pro , it fits really well

Anyway Temps

Cinebench all ore at 4,7ghz around 70C peak
Aida 64 Stresstest without Stresstest fpu after 5 min 60-70 C with peaks 75C
Idle around 30C with dips below at 20C room temp
Gaming around 50-60C

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Anyone who intends to put a 9900k in his m1 I can say it works quite well, Temps are not different from a 8700k

My setup
Board: asrock z370 Fatal1ty itx gaming with the latest bios
Graka:1080ti founders
Water aio : corsair h100i pro , it fits really well

Anyway Temps

Cinebench all ore at 4,7ghz around 70C peak
Aida 64 Stresstest without Stresstest fpu after 5 min 60-70 C with peaks 75C
Idle around 30C with dips below at 20C room temp
Gaming around 50-60C

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Thank you! Just for curiosity, do you use any other fan other then the aio cooler? (Maybe underneath the gpu..)
 
Yes I do, got 2 under the gfx as intake mostly for the gpu but I guess there is some air for other parts too :)

I did install a 92mm on the back as intake it didn't fit inside the case because of the aio so I mounted it it on the outside

Later I will add some pictures
 
The asrock z370 Fatal1ty itx can handle AVX stuff at 4700mhz allcore. The board got a powerlimit at 200 watt. At 5ghz and no powerlimit its goes up to 100° and 250+ watt - and still gets faster.

So someone has to find the sweetspot for itx use. At 95 watt its still faster than an 8700k on stock clocks.
 
I just don't care vor avx or that stupid prime+avx that is not a normal usage, in every game or productive programs the temps are just fine

Yes sure if you go all ore 5ghz it will relay go up in Temps but I am just fine with alle core 4,7 mixt in with one ore 2 cores at 5ghz, I would say the best thing would be maybe max 4 - 6 cores at 5ghz and left 2 cores normal so the CPU can switch between them to cool down
 
hi everyone,,,

anybody knows if a gaingward 1080ti phoenix golden sample would fit in the ncase m1?

Cooling : 2.5 Slot Fan cooler

Product Size : 285mm x 133mm


thank you!
 
I'd like to see Grendell's AIO. I have an old C14, but if the new corsair unit fits real nice I might switch.
 
hi everyone,,,

anybody knows if a gaingward 1080ti phoenix golden sample would fit in the ncase m1?

Cooling : 2.5 Slot Fan cooler

Product Size : 285mm x 133mm


thank you!
hi everyone,,,

anybody knows if a gaingward 1080ti phoenix golden sample would fit in the ncase m1?

Cooling : 2.5 Slot Fan cooler

Product Size : 285mm x 133mm


thank you!

If this was a 2-slot card, I think you'd be OK, but I don't know if the extra thickness will interfere with the case's front I/O components. Also, the card's PCI-E sockets are at the top of the PCB, instead of recessed (i.e. a bit lower), so given the card's 133 height, there is only 7 mm of space for the PCI-E cables and connectors.
 
If this was a 2-slot card, I think you'd be OK, but I don't know if the extra thickness will interfere with the case's front I/O components. Also, the card's PCI-E sockets are at the top of the PCB, instead of recessed (i.e. a bit lower), so given the card's 133 height, there is only 7 mm of space for the PCI-E cables and connectors.

thank you for your response.

I won't risk buying it then.

I prefer to wait price drops and buy something that fits ok.

Which are the bet 1080Ti's to fit better in the ncase?

thanks.
 
thank you for your response.

I won't risk buying it then.

I prefer to wait price drops and buy something that fits ok.

Which are the bet 1080Ti's to fit better in the ncase?

thanks.

There is a link to the 1080 Compatibility List in the thread's very first post which also provides technical drawings of the M1 to help you assess whether or not a card will fit. I don't know if there's a similar post for 1080 Ti cards, specifically.

Another resource listed in the opening post is the user-contributed GoogleDocs spreadsheet. Look at the tabs "Does This Fit?", "Does GPU / GPU Cooler Fit?", and "Example Builds".
 
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Anyone put an Accelero III on their RTX card yet? My 2080FE is will run full boost if I up the fan speeds. Little bit loud (still better than the old blowers though...)
 
Well, sad news. According to one user over at SFF that got the Seasonic SGX-650 for his m1 -- the cables were too stiff to fit well with a full length GPU. So it would either be a lot of 90° adapters, custom cables, or just go SFX.
 
anybody have problems with the front usb ports? i was trying to plug in a windows usb and it wouldnt read
 
anybody have problems with the front usb ports? i was trying to plug in a windows usb and it wouldnt read
I've never had a problem with the usb ports. Even if I had carved it down to fit a bottom radiator...
Is this a new case / new cable?
Make sure the cable is plugged in 100%, inspect to see if cable isn't visibly damaged, etc
 
so first boot it didnt detect my mouse or keyboard.
then it didt detect my usb drive with windows 10 (bought one from miscrosoft)

plugged everything in the back, and mouse+kb worked. usb drive keept bsod'ing me so got a different usb drive and made my own boot drive.

i tried that in the front and this time it detected it so no clue what was wrong before.

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window version, 1080ti sc no mod. u9s cooler

in bios my temp is 37c, and i think ambient is 26c in my room. i'll stress test it later to see if its OC'able.
i have the cool fan, rear fan, and 2 under the gpu. shows in bios as 2 fans + aio pump

i picked XMP profile 2, will need to check if it actually stick in windows as its still showing stock in bios


still waiting on a few aesthetic parts. but otherwise should be good to go.
 
so first boot it didnt detect my mouse or keyboard.
then it didt detect my usb drive with windows 10 (bought one from miscrosoft)

plugged everything in the back, and mouse+kb worked. usb drive keept bsod'ing me so got a different usb drive and made my own boot drive.

i tried that in the front and this time it detected it so no clue what was wrong before.

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window version, 1080ti sc no mod. u9s cooler

in bios my temp is 37c, and i think ambient is 26c in my room. i'll stress test it later to see if its OC'able.
i have the cool fan, rear fan, and 2 under the gpu. shows in bios as 2 fans + aio pump

i picked XMP profile 2, will need to check if it actually stick in windows as its still showing stock in bios


still waiting on a few aesthetic parts. but otherwise should be good to go.
Loose cable?
 
I've been using this build for over a year now. Running an 1800X Oc @ 4ghz with a 1080ti. Its been fantastic and very solid. Pretty much used it every day for heavy 3D work. Reading and catching up on these posts has been fun and I feel compelled to build another one with newer components.
Interesting to see the C14s doing well with a 140 mm fan underneath. I'll likely go with this. Currently running with a C14 and 120 mm intake.
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Why not just use a 140mm fan as an intake? That 140mm noctua fan + a 120mm should do it. Can't imagine the C14s beats the C14 in that way.
 
Hi guys,

I finished my new build today so I also did a bench for you for the 9900K in the M1.

Here's my setup:
- Asrock z390 phantom gaming-itx/ac
- i9 9900K
- Noctua U9S (two A9 fans on the cpu heatsink)
- Third Noctua A9 on the back of the case as exhaust
- Noctua NF-A12x25 as intake on the side for the case
- Vega 64 with aftermarket cooler morpheus ii
- Two Noctua 120mm X 15mm slim on the bottom of the case as exhaust

So a total of 6 fans to try to cold this beast.

I'm still trying some settings to do a small undervolt and this is not final. CPU was stable at around 76C after 5 minutes of Aida64

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Hi guys,

I finished my new build today so I also did a bench for you for the 9900K in the M1.

Here's my setup:
- Asrock z390 phantom gaming-itx/ac
- i9 9900K
- Noctua U9S (two A9 fans on the cpu heatsink)
- Third Noctua A9 on the back of the case as exhaust
- Noctua NF-A12x25 as intake on the side for the case
- Vega 64 with aftermarket cooler morpheus ii
- Two Noctua 120mm X 15mm slim on the bottom of the case as exhaust

So a total of 6 fans to try to cold this beast.

I'm still trying some settings to do a small undervolt and this is not final. CPU was stable at around 76C after 5 minutes of Aida64

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That isn't bad at all, I was wondering how well you could cool the 9900k with smaller coolers.
 
Hi guys,

I finished my new build today so I also did a bench for you for the 9900K in the M1.

Here's my setup:
- Asrock z390 phantom gaming-itx/ac
- i9 9900K
- Noctua U9S (two A9 fans on the cpu heatsink)
- Third Noctua A9 on the back of the case as exhaust
- Noctua NF-A12x25 as intake on the side for the case
- Vega 64 with aftermarket cooler morpheus ii
- Two Noctua 120mm X 15mm slim on the bottom of the case as exhaust

So a total of 6 fans to try to cold this beast.

I'm still trying some settings to do a small undervolt and this is not final. CPU was stable at around 76C after 5 minutes of Aida64

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That package Wattage seems a bit low if you ask me. Is this with a TDP of 95W? or did you let it loose? It can perform better with a higher TDP setting. So a way to see if this low package wattage is because of lower performance is to run fx Cinebench. So if I can ask for a favor. Try to run CineBench R15 and look at the score and the package wattage while that is running.
 
We have been working to get a low profile (<48mm) CPU DDC Pump Res combo that will work for the M1, A4, C4 and Mach One.

Here are some pictures of prototype 1.

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I have more ideas than time to execute, so we ask you guys to be patient, the product will only get better with iterations on our end - and it has to be, or else why waste everyone's time.
 
We have been working to get a low profile (<48mm) CPU DDC Pump Res combo that will work for the M1, A4, C4 and Mach One.

Here are some pictures of prototype 1.

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I have more ideas than time to execute, so we ask you guys to be patient, the product will only get better with iterations on our end - and it has to be, or else why waste everyone's time.
Have you talked to frozenq? Maybe a modified version of their m1 res would be a good place to start (looks like you're already mostly there, though).
 
Have you talked to frozenq? Maybe a modified version of their m1 res would be a good place to start (looks like you're already mostly there, though).

Look at the pics again, it appears to be a pump/rez combo that is also the CPU waterblock...
 
We have been working to get a low profile (<48mm) CPU DDC Pump Res combo that will work for the M1, A4, C4 and Mach One.

Here are some pictures of prototype 1.

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I have more ideas than time to execute, so we ask you guys to be patient, the product will only get better with iterations on our end - and it has to be, or else why waste everyone's time.

Is that a MonoBlock? what board would that mount to?
 
Is that a MonoBlock? what board would that mount to?

Look at the pics again, the caliper measurements, the spacing on the four slotted holes in the corners...

This is a pump/rez/CPU water block combo unit...

Think Swiftech Apogee Drive II with an integrated rez...
 
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