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Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by wahaha360, Sep 15, 2012.
Very informative... Thanks for the detailed explanation!!!
You are welcome, btw. in my setup I got some M16 DIN125 metal washers (o-ring) which fits perfect using Alphacool HF QDCs (it's not the "Eiszapfen" version). Check first the mesurements of your QDCs and keep in mind the maxium external diameter should not over ~ 3.2 cm per metal washers (o-ring), because both need to be placed in short distance to each other, this took me a while to find a correct one.
I want to get the windowed side panel but I currently have 2x120's fans on the side. If I mount the included 140m fan on the C14 alone and remove the other 120 fan will it bring my temps up?
This will rise your temps up there is no doubt about, because the side panel is the main area to get fresh air into the case or if you go the other way around to get the hot air out of the case. But if it's just +5°C to +10°C or much more this depends on a few other factors. If someone has the C14 and a similar GPU like you and the windowed side panel, we would have some numbers to compare. I rember for the DAN A4-SFX with the windowed side panel the CPU temps rised up by aorund +15°C, but the DAN case is in general "worse" than the Ncase case in terms of cooling perfomance, because much smaller different cooling options, so no real comparsion, just an example that a windowed side panel has depending a larger impact on CPU temps.
Yes. By a LOT. I went from around 75C game load to 90C+ by mounting the 140mm fan to my C14 and installing a glass panel.
Thank you all for your inputs. Will hold off on getting the windowed side panel then until they perforate it if its possible
Doubt they will, it's possible with the acrylic one but glass I would forget about it.
I would like to get a custom design like the ppl are doing with the Dan case made out of acrylic .. not gonna lie, wish I had a bandsaw
New case feets had arrived and installled!
Here's the comparison between the default case feet vs what I've bought
Here it is installed (sideview)
Nice! What dimensions did you get? 39x16?
Did you use the included Ncase M3 screws or did you find some other method?
I've brought the same dimension as the others brought and the m3 screws too, perfect fit
I've been browsing the forum for awhile. It's great, it has given lots of ideas how to build in the ncase m1.
This is my first sff and first pc i built. I wouldn't go back to atx again. My girlfriend got me into sff as she said there wasn't room in the lounge for my pc.
Just need to get some shorter cables (corsair sff cables are too long) and hopefully a 1080ti one day.
Does anyone know what i can use to touch up the paint on the inside of the case ? I scratched some off whilst putting it all together.
4790k and gtx 980 build
I got paranoid on temps i think &
I need to tidy up the fan wires.
120mm scythe slipstream was a pain to fit with u9s but just fits with a bit of trimming.
Awesome job, looks great and way to go straight to SFF. My friend just built his first PC and was adamant on an ATX mid tower despite me walking him through all 3 of my ITX builds and showing that they are just as capable.
As for fixing scratches on the inside have you just tried a Sharpie/permanent marker?
First, welcome to the forum and SFF!
In the second photo there are two Noctua fans attached to the inside of the front panel. In the second panel we see that the bottom one draws in air from the hole below the SSD drive, but where does the top fan get air from?
Thanks for the welcome smitty2k1 & qrash. Itx is the way forward i think. It's becoming more popular. Lots of youtube videos popping up with itx cases. I might get a dancase too eventually.
In the second photo, that fan was just an idea. I've got hot air dumping in my case from the gpu so i thought it would stop any hot air getting trapped. I thought it would help with circulation even if half the fan is blocked. The top of the case you can feel the warm air.
I don't know for sure if it's effective.
All my drives have good temps i think. In the 30s. M.2 sdd at the back is in the 40s.
Motherboard doesn't run hot.
Cpu idles in the 30s to sometimes 40s degrees.
Whilst gaming my gtx 980 at 1560 is usually at 50-55 degrees. 4790k is anywhere from 50-65 degrees at 4.6ghz. gta 5 makes my cpu at 65.
I used ai suite 3 so probably more voltage than it needs. Id have to double check how many volts. I don't know how to manually overclock yet. Not something ive done before.
Room temp is about 20 degrees.
I was getting 80 degrees playing gta5 at 4.4ghz with one fan on the u9s and aio fan.
Thats why i went crazy on fans lol.
All the fans are set to standard and i have low noise adapters on the rest connected to molex.
Theres definitely a hum noise but not unbearable.
Do you think a permanent marker would work then? I'll try it
Permanent marker works well for me... much easier than paint with a far better result.
- Touching up a spot is actually hard to do well. The marker isn't as nice as paint, but it will blend in very well at a fraction of the effort.
Thanks buddy. Off to amazon to buy a marker then. the scratch marks do annoy me even though you can't see them with the panel on lol.
I never thought a marker would work, thanks.
Most of the damage was done fitting the scythe fan where the noctua u9s is. Took abit to figure how to fit it. I threw one fan in the bin too.
Scratch marks are pretty bad.
Are you running WIn10? I didn't know AI Suite 3 still worked. I've got a 4770k myself on an Asus Impact VI.
Yeah i'm on windows 10. I'll have a look what version it is when i get home. Can't remember where i downloaded it. Might of been asus. i could upload it if i got the file. if i'm allowed. Not sure on forum rules.
What are your temps like with 4770k? Just curious.
Ai suite 3 3.00.10 works for me. Should for you too.
Thanks I'll try that later. I'm not overclocking my 4770k and I've got it on a big Noctua C12P SE14 (140mm fan) cooler. The fan is silent while gaming and I'm pretty sure I'm at or below that 65 degree mark you're at while gaming, but Prime95 really brings it to it's knees (90deg)
Did ai suite work? They're good temps. Wish my pc was silent. Don't think its possible for me. I tried stock clocks the other day just see if it's much quiter. It is quiter but i need a fan controller i think.
Does anyone a compact fan controller that would fit in the ncase?
I used one of these when I first did my build and it was watercooled, works very well just kind of a pain to reach behind to adjust the fans.