NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

galletabah

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Hi!
Want to mod my ncase m1 and replace his panel clips for a metal panel clips like the metal studs of the kimera industries.
Anyone know what i should buy? for the size balls of the panels.

Thanks!
 

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I did the Rockit Cool Copper IHS mod today. Load temps dropped 5C on average. Not bad for $14.
 
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hi all, been watching this thread for a while now.

I have a 11y.o. pc that i need to upgrade from soon..
I settled down with pretty much all the components, the hardest part was finding the right case, the smaller the better, and after having found the m1, i simply love it, tiny, slick and seems to fit everything i need!

Now the biggest challenge will be to see how things would fit and make sure the air flow is proper, i will be using the drive cage for sure + the 3.5 under the video card. Can the Cryorig C1 fit with drivecage + fan at the back? and does adding a 3.5" drive limits my GPU choice or theres enough space for pretty much any recent gpu?

im wondering also if someone tried to add a fan on top of the case? there seem to be enough space for it.

thx for any insight
 

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hi all, been watching this thread for a while now.

I have a 11y.o. pc that i need to upgrade from soon..
I settled down with pretty much all the components, the hardest part was finding the right case, the smaller the better, and after having found the m1, i simply love it, tiny, slick and seems to fit everything i need!

Now the biggest challenge will be to see how things would fit and make sure the air flow is proper, i will be using the drive cage for sure + the 3.5 under the video card. Can the Cryorig C1 fit with drivecage + fan at the back? and does adding a 3.5" drive limits my GPU choice or theres enough space for pretty much any recent gpu?

im wondering also if someone tried to add a fan on top of the case? there seem to be enough space for it.

thx for any insight

I can't say about the Cryorig, lot will depend on which orientation it is mounted in and how far to the front it sits.


This is what the M1 looks like with the top removed.

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As you can see there is not room for fans.

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The hard drive are close to the GPU, but you should be able to use any that work with the M1. Best thing to do is have the SATA connection at the top and use 90 degree cables.
 

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oh is the the noctua c14s? i thought you couldnt use the drive cage with that heatsink, all the pic i saw with that heatsink never had drivecage... i might consider , idk, although it seems like the C1 takes much less space and and yet perform very similarly ! hmm
 

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oh is the the noctua c14s? i thought you couldnt use the drive cage with that heatsink, all the pic i saw with that heatsink never had drivecage... i might consider , idk, although it seems like the C1 takes much less space and and yet perform very similarly ! hmm

That might be the C14 since it has a 25mm thick fan, normally you can't mount the drive cage with it but I have seen some mod the cage to work. I just grabbed an image to show you the drive to GPU clearance.
 
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oh is the the noctua c14s? i thought you couldnt use the drive cage with that heatsink, all the pic i saw with that heatsink never had drivecage... i might consider , idk, although it seems like the C1 takes much less space and and yet perform very similarly ! hmm

That picture that he posted is from my old build. The cooler is the Noctua C12P-SE14. I don't have those components anymore, but I'm still using the Noctua cooler on my i7 8700. I also swapped out the fan with the NF-A15 PWM. Here's another shot of that build from a different angle:

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That picture that he posted is from my old build. The cooler is the Noctua C12P-SE14. I don't have those components anymore, but I'm still using the Noctua cooler on my i7 8700. I also swapped out the fan with the NF-A15 PWM. Here's another shot of that build from a different angle:

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Thx, how were your temp though?
 

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Question about bottom 240 radiator clearance:

So ends up I am getting ready to vertically mount my gpu above the normal 3 expansion slots.

That means I have the entire basement of the case to add a radiator if I wish.

This is a bit of a tricky question, but I was wondering what the maximum length of radiator that can fit in the bottom of the case.

I have been eyeballing EK's revised Phoenix 240 AIO and if it could just barely squeeze in, it would save me a lot of space trying to find room for a res and pump.

Note: The Phoenix 240 is 295mm long and since there is no GPU to get in the way, I don't think the radiator thickness will be an issue.

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Question about bottom 240 radiator clearance:

So ends up I am getting ready to vertically mount my gpu above the normal 3 expansion slots.

That means I have the entire basement of the case to add a radiator if I wish.

This is a bit of a tricky question, but I was wondering what the maximum length of radiator that can fit in the bottom of the case.

I have been eyeballing EK's revised Phoenix 240 AIO and if it could just barely squeeze in, it would save me a lot of space trying to find room for a res and pump.

Note: The Phoenix 240 is 295mm long and since there is no GPU to get in the way, I don't think the radiator thickness will be an issue.

Thanks!

Make a cardboard / foam core / whatever mock-up of the 240 Phoenix, try it in for size...

But keep in mind, according to EK's instructions for the Phoenix series, they do not recommend mounting the unit in that position...
 

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Make a cardboard / foam core / whatever mock-up of the 240 Phoenix, try it in for size...

But keep in mind, according to EK's instructions for the Phoenix series, they do not recommend mounting the unit in that position...
Good idea, I'll do that! Thanks for the heads up about mounting orientation, I'll look into that.
 

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Thx, how were your temp though?

For my current system, my i7 8700 temps hit about 75c after gaming for an hour. When I convert movies in Handbrake my temps go up to about 83c and sometimes 85c on a really hot day. My GPU temps hit 84c but thats because I'm using a Founders Edition 1080 Ti.
 

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For my current system, my i7 8700 temps hit about 75c after gaming for an hour. When I convert movies in Handbrake my temps go up to about 83c and sometimes 85c on a really hot day. My GPU temps hit 84c but thats because I'm using a Founders Edition 1080 Ti.
undervolt the gpu!
 

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undervolt the gpu!

Working on it! =P I might undervolt the i7 too. I got my 1080 Ti to run at 1823mhz @ .862v, but it still hits 84c. The fanspeed never goes about 50%, and it doesn't sound that loud. Any tips?

EDIT: Forgot to mention that at default settings the card doesn't go above 50% fanspeed either, so I'm stuck depending if its still worth to undervolt the card even when it still hits 84c. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, idk
 

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You have problem in anywhere.
When I had the FE 1080ti, never reached 72° with undervolt and I was doing it on 1850 mhz 0.900v.

With the 1080 (NONti) I had the same problem And never reached more than 74° with 1870 mhz 0.840v
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Nice! Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'm using MSI Afterburner and I made sure that all the voltages were correct. Is there another setting or something? Maybe I'm just unlucky and my card is weird.
 

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I use this tutorial:


Yeah, thats the same tutorial I watched. I made the mistake of not enabling the voltage control settings. I'm still getting the same temps though. Also, I can't get the last point on the voltage graph to do down. No matter what I do, the last point (the 1200mv one) always goes up to like 1860mhz. I'll try uninstalling MSI Afterburner and I think I'll try reapplying the thermal paste later today and see if that helps the temps at all.

Do fans at the bottom of the case help the temps of cards with the stock coolers? I read from other members here and on other forums stating that the bottom fans don't really help with the stock cooler. I took my bottom fans out when my Founder Edition came in a couple days ago.

Either way, thanks for the responses.
 

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For my current system, my i7 8700 temps hit about 75c after gaming for an hour. When I convert movies in Handbrake my temps go up to about 83c and sometimes 85c on a really hot day. My GPU temps hit 84c but thats because I'm using a Founders Edition 1080 Ti.

Kk, did you try setting the side fan as exhaust? It seems there isnt enough airflow and the hard drives do create lot of heat, you need some kind of exhaust somewhere, maybe even put another smaller fan between the heatsink and motherboard too
 

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Kk, did you try setting the side fan as exhaust? It seems there isnt enough airflow and the hard drives do create lot of heat, you need some kind of exhaust somewhere, maybe even put another smaller fan between the heatsink and motherboard too

I don't think exhaust fans are necessary at all if you have enough intake fans.

I have two 120mm bottom intakes, one 92mm rear intake, and one 140mm side intake and my temps are stellar relative to my overclocks and voltages. Shove enough new air in and the old air has to find a way out.
 

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Kk, did you try setting the side fan as exhaust? It seems there isnt enough airflow and the hard drives do create lot of heat, you need some kind of exhaust somewhere, maybe even put another smaller fan between the heatsink and motherboard too

That picture was from an old build, and I'm not using those 3.5" hard drives any more. I do have an SSD and a 5400 rpm laptop drive mounted together behind the front panel, but they're not blocking the NF-F12 that I have for intake.

My current setup on the side bracket is 1 NF-A15 for the CPU area and 1 NF-F12 right next to it, both are set as intake fans. Like I mentioned in previous response, I had two more fans on the bottom (both NF-F12) but I took those off when I got my FE 1080 Ti.
 
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Anyone ordered case feets from GoodComponent lately? The status says its received but the tracking number they provided can't be tracked at https://www.17track.net/en. I tried to send a message to their support via WhatsApp but all they reply is "Hello" . I have ordered the feets on the 2Feb.
 

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Anyone ordered case feets from GoodComponent lately? The status says its received but the tracking number they provided can't be tracked at https://www.17track.net/en. I tried to send a message to their support via WhatsApp but all they reply is "Hello" . I have ordered the feets on the 2Feb.

Lately? No, ordered mine last year. The tracking on their site is iffy at best. Use USPS's site with the tracking number they gave you.
 

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Welp I have finished my soft tube M1 build, but mistakes were made and now my fans are on the outside of the fan bracket with an xt45 240 on the I side.

(I'd post a Photobucket album if I knew how.)

It was a fun experience, though I wouldn't recommend a custom loop if your on a remotely tight budget. Or maybe just be smarter than me and plan/count properly and not buy fittings more than once.

Also all the dual rad and hard line builders must have hands the size of children or they are magicians. Undecided on that.

Anyway that is all.
 

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Does anyone have any experience in running this CLC? The Be Quiet! Silent Loop 240mm

https://www.bequiet.com/en/watercooler/739

I'm primarily interested in it due to the supposedly quieter pump. But am worried the tubes won't bend very well inside the Ncase. Would like to take my 4690k from 4.2> 4.6 ghz or so if possible. Right now it just runs too hot and is too affected by my GPU (open air).
 

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Welp I have finished my soft tube M1 build, but mistakes were made and now my fans are on the outside of the fan bracket with an xt45 240 on the I side.

(I'd post a Photobucket album if I knew how.)

It was a fun experience, though I wouldn't recommend a custom loop if your on a remotely tight budget. Or maybe just be smarter than me and plan/count properly and not buy fittings more than once.

Also all the dual rad and hard line builders must have hands the size of children or they are magicians. Undecided on that.

Anyway that is all.

Nah - we just own a set of foreceps . . .:ROFLMAO:

BTW - you can copy and paste images directly into your post

I'm primarily interested in it due to the supposedly quieter pump. But am worried the tubes won't bend very well inside the Ncase. Would like to take my 4690k from 4.2> 4.6 ghz or so if possible. Right now it just runs too hot and is too affected by my GPU (open air).

Australian summer - killer right.
 

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Australian summer - killer right.

Indeed lol. No air con in my place. Even during winter tbh I can't really run it higher than 4.4 so I don't bother. XD. I'm too lazy to go for full loop cooling.. Just gimme something easy lol. Ideally I'd have bought the C14 all those years ago.. But oh well.
 

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Welp I have finished my soft tube M1 build, but mistakes were made and now my fans are on the outside of the fan bracket with an xt45 240 on the I side.

(I'd post a Photobucket album if I knew how.)

It was a fun experience, though I wouldn't recommend a custom loop if your on a remotely tight budget. Or maybe just be smarter than me and plan/count properly and not buy fittings more than once.

Also all the dual rad and hard line builders must have hands the size of children or they are magicians. Undecided on that.

Anyway that is all.

Don't let Chapeau fool you, he is a wizard.
 

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Does anyone have any experience in running this CLC? The Be Quiet! Silent Loop 240mm

https://www.bequiet.com/en/watercooler/739

I'm primarily interested in it due to the supposedly quieter pump. But am worried the tubes won't bend very well inside the Ncase. Would like to take my 4690k from 4.2> 4.6 ghz or so if possible. Right now it just runs too hot and is too affected by my GPU (open air).
yes, me:
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For anyone interested, there is a vertical GPU bracket for the Ncase being sold at Mnpctech right now.

I picked one up and I actually plan to vertically mount a r9 nano sized itx gpu. This way I can still keep the HDD cage on the side and have 2-3 open slots to have watercooling in the bottom or perhaps add an extra pcie device via the m.2 bandwidth or bifurcation.


black anodized version just got listed, https://mnpctech.com/pci-e-riser-ca...al-video-card-gpu-mounting-bracket-black.html
 

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This confuses me on so many levels.. that is an NCase right?? What mods were done?

Standard Ncase with a modded PSU with a noctua fan, two teeny tiny noctua fans on the PSU, slim disk drive, noctua fan at the bottom, hdd at the bottom, and the Corsair H5 SF cpu cooler, which clearly isn't going to fit with the stock top panel.
 

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Standard Ncase with a modded PSU with a noctua fan, two teeny tiny noctua fans on the PSU, slim disk drive, noctua fan at the bottom, hdd at the bottom, and the Corsair H5 SF cpu cooler, which clearly isn't going to fit with the stock top panel.

Okay but why though
 
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