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Good idea, I'll do that! Thanks for the heads up about mounting orientation, I'll look into that.
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NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)
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For my current system, my i7 8700 temps hit about 75c after gaming for an hour. When I convert movies in Handbrake my temps go up to about 83c and sometimes 85c on a really hot day. My GPU temps hit 84c but thats because I'm using a Founders Edition 1080 Ti.
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undervolt the gpu!
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Working on it! =P I might undervolt the i7 too. I got my 1080 Ti to run at 1823mhz @ .862v, but it still hits 84c. The fanspeed never goes about 50%, and it doesn't sound that loud. Any tips?
EDIT: Forgot to mention that at default settings the card doesn't go above 50% fanspeed either, so I'm stuck depending if its still worth to undervolt the card even when it still hits 84c. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, idk
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You have problem in anywhere.
When I had the FE 1080ti, never reached 72° with undervolt and I was doing it on 1850 mhz 0.900v.
With the 1080 (NONti) I had the same problem And never reached more than 74° with 1870 mhz 0.840v
When I had the FE 1080ti, never reached 72° with undervolt and I was doing it on 1850 mhz 0.900v.
With the 1080 (NONti) I had the same problem And never reached more than 74° with 1870 mhz 0.840v
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Nice! Maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'm using MSI Afterburner and I made sure that all the voltages were correct. Is there another setting or something? Maybe I'm just unlucky and my card is weird.
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I use this tutorial:
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Yeah, thats the same tutorial I watched. I made the mistake of not enabling the voltage control settings. I'm still getting the same temps though. Also, I can't get the last point on the voltage graph to do down. No matter what I do, the last point (the 1200mv one) always goes up to like 1860mhz. I'll try uninstalling MSI Afterburner and I think I'll try reapplying the thermal paste later today and see if that helps the temps at all.
Do fans at the bottom of the case help the temps of cards with the stock coolers? I read from other members here and on other forums stating that the bottom fans don't really help with the stock cooler. I took my bottom fans out when my Founder Edition came in a couple days ago.
Either way, thanks for the responses.
Kk, did you try setting the side fan as exhaust? It seems there isnt enough airflow and the hard drives do create lot of heat, you need some kind of exhaust somewhere, maybe even put another smaller fan between the heatsink and motherboard too
I don't think exhaust fans are necessary at all if you have enough intake fans.
I have two 120mm bottom intakes, one 92mm rear intake, and one 140mm side intake and my temps are stellar relative to my overclocks and voltages. Shove enough new air in and the old air has to find a way out.
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Guys, is there any way to fit an Arctic Mono Plus in the M1? Will it work in any orientation?
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That picture was from an old build, and I'm not using those 3.5" hard drives any more. I do have an SSD and a 5400 rpm laptop drive mounted together behind the front panel, but they're not blocking the NF-F12 that I have for intake.
My current setup on the side bracket is 1 NF-A15 for the CPU area and 1 NF-F12 right next to it, both are set as intake fans. Like I mentioned in previous response, I had two more fans on the bottom (both NF-F12) but I took those off when I got my FE 1080 Ti.
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Anyone ordered case feets from GoodComponent lately? The status says its received but the tracking number they provided can't be tracked at https://www.17track.net/en. I tried to send a message to their support via WhatsApp but all they reply is "Hello" . I have ordered the feets on the 2Feb.
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Lately? No, ordered mine last year. The tracking on their site is iffy at best. Use USPS's site with the tracking number they gave you.
Welp I have finished my soft tube M1 build, but mistakes were made and now my fans are on the outside of the fan bracket with an xt45 240 on the I side.
(I'd post a Photobucket album if I knew how.)
It was a fun experience, though I wouldn't recommend a custom loop if your on a remotely tight budget. Or maybe just be smarter than me and plan/count properly and not buy fittings more than once.
Also all the dual rad and hard line builders must have hands the size of children or they are magicians. Undecided on that.
Anyway that is all.
(I'd post a Photobucket album if I knew how.)
It was a fun experience, though I wouldn't recommend a custom loop if your on a remotely tight budget. Or maybe just be smarter than me and plan/count properly and not buy fittings more than once.
Also all the dual rad and hard line builders must have hands the size of children or they are magicians. Undecided on that.
Anyway that is all.
Does anyone have any experience in running this CLC? The Be Quiet! Silent Loop 240mm
https://www.bequiet.com/en/watercooler/739
I'm primarily interested in it due to the supposedly quieter pump. But am worried the tubes won't bend very well inside the Ncase. Would like to take my 4690k from 4.2> 4.6 ghz or so if possible. Right now it just runs too hot and is too affected by my GPU (open air).
https://www.bequiet.com/en/watercooler/739
I'm primarily interested in it due to the supposedly quieter pump. But am worried the tubes won't bend very well inside the Ncase. Would like to take my 4690k from 4.2> 4.6 ghz or so if possible. Right now it just runs too hot and is too affected by my GPU (open air).
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Nah - we just own a set of foreceps . . .
BTW - you can copy and paste images directly into your post
Australian summer - killer right.
Indeed lol. No air con in my place. Even during winter tbh I can't really run it higher than 4.4 so I don't bother. XD. I'm too lazy to go for full loop cooling.. Just gimme something easy lol. Ideally I'd have bought the C14 all those years ago.. But oh well.
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black anodized version just got listed, https://mnpctech.com/pci-e-riser-ca...al-video-card-gpu-mounting-bracket-black.html
yes, me:
Looks tight as hell lol. Thanks for the image! Will definitely consider.
Do you have the fans as intake or exhaust?
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as intake. 2 noiseblocker b12ps
Thanks!
....The new tempered glass panel available may put a damper in this plan for a 240mm rad though..
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I just buy 2 of them, silver and black
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Wish me luck ya'll (It'll fit I swear)
(It'll fit I swear)
This confuses me on so many levels.. that is an NCase right?? What mods were done?Wish me luck ya'll
Standard Ncase with a modded PSU with a noctua fan, two teeny tiny noctua fans on the PSU, slim disk drive, noctua fan at the bottom, hdd at the bottom, and the Corsair H5 SF cpu cooler, which clearly isn't going to fit with the stock top panel.
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Okay but why though
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Ambitious..... I like it.
Finally finished. Some questionable choices here, but it ended up working so I'm happy.
I know just a 1030, but it works well enough until prices come down on ITX gpus. (My old gpu will not fit for good reason)
I basicly did all of this so I could bifurcate the x16 slot (C_Payne's riser)
I still have not decided how to populate the 2nd slot of the riser. I'm thinking of using a dual nvme m.2 x8 card from supermicro.
This is all for now. I'm looking forward to talking about the build experience some more. Since I just finished, I think I will take a much needed snooze.
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I would love to hear this fits! but how much is a riser and a vertical mount? because that adds a lot to the cost... apart from 370 Euro for the loop.
Also, has anyone travelled abroad with this case? I mean specifically at least with AIO, if not custom WC. please if anyone has, reply so I can know what restrictions apply.
Also, has anyone travelled abroad with this case? I mean specifically at least with AIO, if not custom WC. please if anyone has, reply so I can know what restrictions apply.
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Neapolitan6th
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The riser cable was about $60, the bifurcated board varies (mine was $100), and the vertical mount is $30 plus shipping. (USD)
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My current M1 build with external radiator, not a typical setup here, but I want to share. The goal was to get very high cooling perfomance with a very silent operation.
The hardware base it's Intel i5-8600K @ 5 Ghz and a EVGA GTX 1070 @ 2 Ghz / 4.5 Ghz on a ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming-ITX with 16 GB G.Skill DDR4-3200 memory and a Samsung 960 EVO M2 SSD storage.
The GPU and CPU block is a Watercool Heatkiller IV. The pump is a Alphacool Laing DDC310 (less powerful and loud as original Laing DDC 1T) with Bitspower DDC Mini Tank reservoir top.
The external radiator is a Watercool Mo-Ra3 420 with four Noctua NF A20 PWM fans running at 450 rpm maximum. For the motherboard VRMs I added a Noctua NF-S12A PWM running at 550 rpm maximum.
On the desk not so much space, that's why I like Mini ITX builds:
Under the desk the external radiator:
The resullt is very good cooling perfomance and extremly silent operation. I'm happy with the step to an external radiator. With the quick disconnects on the back on the M1 in few moments I can do some maintenance if required.
The hardware base it's Intel i5-8600K @ 5 Ghz and a EVGA GTX 1070 @ 2 Ghz / 4.5 Ghz on a ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming-ITX with 16 GB G.Skill DDR4-3200 memory and a Samsung 960 EVO M2 SSD storage.
The GPU and CPU block is a Watercool Heatkiller IV. The pump is a Alphacool Laing DDC310 (less powerful and loud as original Laing DDC 1T) with Bitspower DDC Mini Tank reservoir top.
The external radiator is a Watercool Mo-Ra3 420 with four Noctua NF A20 PWM fans running at 450 rpm maximum. For the motherboard VRMs I added a Noctua NF-S12A PWM running at 550 rpm maximum.
On the desk not so much space, that's why I like Mini ITX builds:
Under the desk the external radiator:
The resullt is very good cooling perfomance and extremly silent operation. I'm happy with the step to an external radiator. With the quick disconnects on the back on the M1 in few moments I can do some maintenance if required.
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Nice looking build, I am sure you are getting very good results. When I had mine under water I was using a similar setup with black EK tubing and black/chrome Swiftech compression fittings, really like that look.
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I've been thinking for a while now I might down the same route.
But I think I've pretty much got as much as I can out of the M1 so I might give a custom case a go for a little project.
How do the QDC's mount to the back panel?
- Looks like there is a large washer/o-ring setup back there... Can you get a closer pic?
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Should be something like this, and the panel mount part. not necessarily that brand though.
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Awesome... thanks! This detail was what I was after: the hidden is a female thread inside the QDC fitting itself.
Hi,
yes you need to get a QDC with panel mount cap. You will require a pair metal washer (o-ring) and you need to modify the defaut rubber washers from the Ncase M1.
I need to cut the inner part of the default rubber washers out (see red marked area) and the QDC fits perfect, addtional on both side from the case you will require to place the metal washers to get this fixed, because the inner diameter of the Ncase M1 cutout is too big for QDC with panel mount cap.
Here a bit more detailed photo:
yes you need to get a QDC with panel mount cap. You will require a pair metal washer (o-ring) and you need to modify the defaut rubber washers from the Ncase M1.
I need to cut the inner part of the default rubber washers out (see red marked area) and the QDC fits perfect, addtional on both side from the case you will require to place the metal washers to get this fixed, because the inner diameter of the Ncase M1 cutout is too big for QDC with panel mount cap.
Here a bit more detailed photo:
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