NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by wahaha360, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. Aibohphobia

    Aibohphobia [H]ard|Gawd

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    I've used Shapeways, can be a bit pricey but the quality is good.

    I wouldn't recommend just taking my model as is and 3d printing it. It's really meant to be made from bent sheet metal.
     
  2. Synomenon

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    Ah bummer.

    I guess I'll have to stick with the SX600G then. I don't want my GTX980 being pushed or bent down at all.

    Was your custom bracket for the PSU mounted to the 2.5" drive mount on the front of the M1?
     
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  3. Urelure

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    It was mounted the same way as the ATX PSU bracket that ships with the M1.
     
  4. Aibohphobia

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    ^ This

    It's mounted using the same 4 screw holes the ATX bracket uses.
     
  5. cambrian

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    any tried the h80i gt with this case? It has a 49mm thickness. The original h80i was 38mm and it fits.
     
  6. exelias0

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    Anyone have a set of black panels they don't want? (Any version, ODD or no ODD) I put a little scratch in mine and it made me sad :(
     
  7. Printermeow

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    Will be building Titan X / M1 / PETG Hard Tubing build for my self
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  8. EpicFruit

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    Does anyone know if the EVGA GTX 980 Hybrid will fit into an M1? My concern is with the side panel clearance, and whether there is enough room for the tubing that is running out from the side of the GPU.
     
  9. Diverge

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    Heads up for anyone using a Swiftech H220 in their M1; seems those plastic elbow are pretty crappy:
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    I went to swap out a GTX Titan for a GTX Titan X today, and that's what I found.

    The kicker is that Swiftech says the M1 is not the ideal case for the H220, and will deny your RMA, saying the failure is from user error. That too much stress was put on the elbow (even though there is plenty of hose slack, and everything fits pretty good).
    http://forums.swiftech.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3102&p=13730

    The fact that they are calling this user error right away, and not even admitting the possibility of a defect leaves me with zero confidence in the H220, especially when it's right above a $1000 videocard. I just figured I'd give a heads up for others using the H220, because to me, those elbows seem like a weak link, and I'm not the only one who has had this problem. Here's another guy on their forums, which a leaking elbow, that they also blamed on user error: http://forums.swiftech.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3094&sid=3c9a75024dc6cf5f43f503254a636b40
     
  10. ghostwich

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    There are other Swiftech stories in this thread...

    http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1041006534&postcount=12585

    :(
     
  11. Necere

    Necere 2[H]4U

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    Nobody has gotten the H80i in with both fans. The most I've seen is with one regular and one slim fan. Given that that configuration is about the same thickness as the H80i GT with one fan, it's conceivable that could fit. Nevertheless, I wouldn't recommend it, since it will be under-fanned and probably perform no better in that configuration than a thinner rad with single fan.
     
  12. antok86

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    tempted to try to cram my current rig (bitfenix prodigy) into this case...
     
  13. antok86

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    Will this case fit 2 x 2.5 drives, h100i, asus 970 strix and a sfx psx?
     
  14. Drewbies

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    Yep. I have 2 x2.5 drive, a h100i and a 670 in mine with the sfx-L 500w powersupply. Its a little bit tight where the GFX meets the powersupply but you can squeeze it. IF you went with the standard SFX size more room opens up.
     
  15. antok86

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    I thought i saw someone post that a 970 strix didnt fit. Would like to confirm with anyone that has tried
     
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  17. Phuncz

    Phuncz 2[H]4U

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    LOL not this Swiftech Warranty Dodge Tactic again. Not so long ago they wouldn't honor warranty because someone was using an 450W SFX PSU with a high-end GPU (which many here can attest works flawlessly) because the Nvidia website says it would need a 600W PSU (if it was a crappy PSU).

    It's remarkable how crappy their support is, it might as well have said on the box that you should only use this inside a computer that's on their Qualified Vendor List.

    Someone give this guy a book on basic physics. It's getting sad.
     
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  18. Necere

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    It won't fit. The problem is this corner of the PCB, which runs into the rear chassis flange:

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    If you're not afraid to take a dremel to a $350 video card (and void your warranty), it's a fairly minor mod to make it fit.
     
  19. Necere

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    It's a shame how problematic the H220 turned out to be; in theory it's an ideal all-in-one watercooling kit for the M1. But between the (apparently) flawed pump design, Swiftech's questionable support practices, and Asetek's patent monopoly, I guess it wasn't meant to be. The latter is especially troubling, since it means it's unlikely we'll see any companies do an expandable AIO, unless Asetek themselves are involved. I was looking forward to the Fractal Design Kelvin series, but it looks like they won't be available outside of Europe.
     
  20. Anagog

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    Correct.

    Incorrect.
    If you take out the rubber plug for the clip at the back that bit fits in fine. The problem lies with the heatpipe. It sticks out over the edge of the case and prevents the side panel being put on. Same problem with the 980 Strix.

    EDIT: Upon closer inspection it seems that the 970 strix is very marginally shorter which may allow the side panel to close.
     
  21. Necere

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    Yeah, I would've thought the person that did that mod would mention the heatpipe not fitting. So the 980 Strix is out, 970 Strix probably fits with some modding.
     
  22. ghostwich

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    That said... my personal experience with an Apogee Drive ii has been positive. I also appreciate Swiftech's Lok-Seal compression fittings being compatible with 17mm wrenches.
     
  23. exelias0

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    Now you guys have me worried. Maybe I shouldn't be using an H100i. It really took a lot of force to get the thing in there, with those stiff hoses.
     
  24. fenrisx

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    Can't wait!

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    Currently "Inbound Into Customs"

    Moving my stuff out of a Fractal Node 605 w/ an ASUS RoG Maximus VI Formula board into the v3 of this case w/ an ASUS RoG VII Impact board. I still need to get a smaller PSU -- but I'm waiting until this thing is closer to delivery.
     
  25. Phuncz

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    After a DOA Swiftech H220 and a EK Full Cover Water Block leaking (after one year), I've decided to stop with watercooling. I choose to go with about the largest air-coolers I could get for my build (Scythe Kabuto 2 and Arctic Xtreme) and it's made my system very quiet and less prone to problems like leaks and evaporation.
     
  26. antok86

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    anyone got an extra one laying around they want to sell.
     
  27. Vittra

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    Are you guys sure about this? Specs on cards show the 980 not being as "tall" or "wide" as the 970. 5.5 vs 5.3.

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    This appears verified by DfknG:

    http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1041288789&postcount=14785
    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/case-mods-worklog-gallery/68871-ncase-m1-build-minivalidus.html

    Unfortunately he hasn't posted an update on his build as of yet.
     
  28. Necere

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    Hm, yeah... in the comments on his most recent youtube video someone asks him that very question and he does say the Strix 980 should fit better than the 970, but it doesn't look like he's completely sorted it out yet. Going by the specs though, you're right - the 980 seems like a more likely fit, though the PCB of both models looks like it will have the same problem at the back corner.
     
  29. antok86

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    damn so tempted to get this case..but the part where the strix 970 doesnt fit. im willing to shave down part of the pcb if it fits.
     
  30. Necere

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    The guy that did the mod to make the Strix 970 fit did say he was able to get the side panel on fine.
     
  31. Telecaster

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    Good luck with that Liquid Ultra, no matter how many times I applied it (exactly as per their video and exactly how they described it) it didn't work for me, temps just kept going crazy under load. I gave up and went back to IC Diamond and the typical 'line across the die' method saw temps drop 20 degrees under load compared to the liquid ultra.

    Looking at my CPU cooler face it could well have been that it wasn't a mirror finish, but still, I expected better from all the hype.
     
  32. Anagog

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    Yes im sure...
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    The 980 measurements don't include the heatpipe for some retarded reason.

    EDIT: Couple extra pictures.
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  33. fenrisx

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    ^^ That was yesterday.. had been that status for roughly a week. Today.. OUT FOR DELIVERY. I didn't expect that at all! Yay.

    I guess I should have ordered the PSU already! Luckily for a mere $9 for 1-day Saturday shipping I'll have it tomorrow.
     
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  34. antok86

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    ^^^^ is that 970 or 980
     
  35. Anagog

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    Thats a 980
     
  36. theGryphon

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    I have a question for M1 owners and/or Necere:

    How much does the AC cord stick out from the surface of the PSU, precisely, in millimeters?

    Thanks!
     
  37. Aibohphobia

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    About 17mm from the metal housing on mine but there may be some variance due to differences in the AC inlet socket on different PSUs.
     
  38. Talon720

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    I'm pretty sure I posted awhile back about the arctic mono plus on a 750ti not being able to fit. Well it fit but the side panel couldn't go on. So after buying a Raijintek Morpheus and finding out it didn't fit, but had some lower profile heatsinks I could use on the memory and vrm. I went back to the arctic mono plus and turned it so the heat pipes faced the rear, they almost touch the PCI slots. It fits great this way and I took the fan off and have a 92mm noctura redux 1600rpm fan connected to the 2-pin gpu stays pretty quiet. I tried a scythe slipstream to, but it seemed a little louder. Also the heatsink was cooking the back of the slipstream to the point where I couldn't touch it, remember the two aren't actully touching one another. Also the sleeve bearing seemed to develop a noise after that, coincidence? maybe..but the noctura works for now. I wouldn't mind using the slim 92mm noctura fan but it's PWM only, I don't think that will work well with a 2-pin gpu I assume voltage controlled connection. Just thought I'd give anyone a heads up on a different option as in sure this position would work on other cards.
     
  39. theGryphon

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    Thanks bro!
    Is that on the SFX(-L) PSU? Can you measure on other units maybe too, preferably ATX?

    I appreciate it! :)
     
  40. Anagog

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    I measure my SX500LG at 18mm but this is with a tape measure rather than a calliper so it may be less accurate.