NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by wahaha360, Sep 15, 2012.

  1. AFD

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    It's really not that loud at all. The fan just makes a very quiet chattery sound that's just barely audible enough to be slightly distracting and annoying :D
     
  2. iippo

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    well, ive got two of these and both are loud to my ear when under load. Desktop is just fine...but its not really the point with 600w ones.

    Also both made noise when turned off. Tweaking powersave settings enough made that bit quieter though. Still i rma'ed one of them, but unfortunately it didnt help.
     
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  4. Phuncz

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    Maybe we should quote some of the people in agony from the last time :D
    There were certainly enough people saying something like:
    "jeez if I know waiting 2 months would take this long, I would have spend $20 more"
    "ah man everybody except me seems to have their case already, wish I'd gotten air shipping"

    Anyway, I'm awaiting the PSU bracket availability for the better support for the SFX-L PSU's.
    Maybe it would be adviseable to have the "accessories" page be called "Spare Parts" or something like that.
     
  5. flod

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    is the sx600's noise completely from the fan or is there also coil whine/buzz?

    would it be possible to replace its fan with a funnel + some 120mm fan?
     
  6. Phuncz

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    People are also complaining about coil whine with the SX600-G.
     
  7. jcagara08

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    Oh alright I see, thanks man! Is there such super slim slot loading Blu ray writers existing products as of today?
     
  8. raymondo

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    User google already answered that.
     
  9. flod

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    dam... is the 450w gold sfx psu from silverstone better for acoustics?

    i suppose 450w is sufficient for an overclocked 4770k + not heavily oc'd gtx 970
     
  10. Phuncz

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    It won't be with load. My ST45SF-G was whisper-quiet unless stressed, then suddenly after a month or two it started making noise even at idle. People are saying it's the crappy bearings that fail sooner or later. I've done the popular fan mod (replacing the fan with a Noise Blocker 80x15mm fan) but atleast one person who has overclocked components on this PSU with the fan mod has an unstable system. The fan mod reduces the amount of airflow and thus when the PSU has a high load, it might not stay within the ATX specs.

    I personally would wait on the 500W SFX-L that is due any day now. Tony Ou from Silverstone has said they have delayed release to find a better fan after having received a lot of critique on the noise with the ST45SF-G and SX600-G. And they should, they are on thin ice concerning PSU customer satisfaction, or atleast on this forum.
     
  11. EdZ

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    More than sufficient. I've got a Xeon E3-1240 (essentially an i5-2500 with Hyperthreading and no GPU) and a GTX 970 on the ST30SF (300W). It's not the quietest under load, but it works with no stability issues. It works if you just need a placeholder until the 500w SFX-L is available.
     
  12. Half Life

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    For my because the political things(reserve, oil, gas...) change the value of my money

    The SX600-G buzzing? just yesterday i bought one :confused:
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    Another thing, which do you thing is the better headsikns? the fan size doesn't matter (92mm,120mm,140mm...), i want do some OC
     
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  13. Qrash

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    The Archgon CB-5021 is a good deal on Amazon. For $110 you get the Panasonic UJ-265 blu-ray writer (6x), a slim SATA adapter, an OEM version of Cyberlink software (for blu-ray playback), and it comes assembled in a 5.25 bay adapter. The bay adapter is black plastic and you won't use it in the M1, but the price for all of the rest of the parts and software is decent.

    Note that the data side of the slim SATA connector on these drives is the same as on hard drives and SSD drives. It's only the power connector that is smaller. My Silverstone SX-600 PS includes the slim SATA power connector at the end of one of the flat power cables.
     
  14. onegaynerd

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    Slightly confusing... Will the M1 V3 also come with the dual 3.5" drive mount and the SFX PSU bracket as well?
     
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    You don't have to use Paypal's exchange, I've never done that. My credit card is billed in whatever currency the payee accepts, and the particular card (i.e. bank) I use doesn't charge anything extra (no fee, no percentage cut) for the exchange to my local currency. Always ends up cheaper.
     
  16. Necere

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    Yes. Those are just the parts included in the accessory box. The SFX and 3.5" HDD brackets are installed in the case by default.
     
  17. Half Life

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    In other words, include all things that you need to start up. 3.5" cage, 2.5"+SFX PSU bracket, buttons and usb ports, right?
     
  18. Necere

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    Yes. I've just updated the FAQ to clarify.
     
  19. Half Life

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    Great!, another thing, all cases it'll be shipping from taiwan for this batch or you have some cases in USA and the first ones orders it'll be shipping from USA?
     
  20. Necere

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    These are all shipped fresh from the factory in Taiwan.
     
  21. onegaynerd

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    Sweet. I assumed so, but thought I would ask just to be sure. Thanks! :D
     
  22. AFD

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    Yay! Over a year after I bought my M1, and I finally got a GPU!


    Gigabyte GTX 970 ITX (GV-N970IXOC-4GD) installed..

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    Also yanked out $60 worth of shitty Silverstone CP11 SATA cables (50% ended up being faulty) and replaced with the stock ASUS cables. Tidied up my cable management a little better, and finally installed the IreK alternate DEMCiflex filters (side and top only; bottom and PSU are still Necere's original version, and dirty but working very well!). Chopped up the top stick-on magnet into four pieces, so that none of the adhesive was showing through the vents in the top panel. Also, replaced the stock rubber grommets with rubber blanking plugs from the guy in Ireland that Hanakuso recommended, and replaced a broken M1 plastic clip (thanks W360!).

    Switched out my old v1 internal power cable with the new shorter v2 (left-angle) version and swapped the serial/name badge for a central outlet..

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    The 970 ITX seems to work very well in this case. GPU & CPU temps are 40C or below at idle, and the GPU never gets above 75C during benchmarks (Heaven, Firestrike). The CPU stays in the 50's during the same tests (and under 75C during the physics portions). The card is actually pretty quiet and near silent at idle.. definitely audible under load, but with a mostly pleasant sound (could still hear the ST600-G fan chattering, though it never got louder).

    Just need another 3.5" and 2.5" drive, a new monitor (and 10 more fans, and maybe a 3rd PSU), and then my build will be complete! :p
     
  23. WiSK

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    Looking good AFD! :)
     
  24. AFD

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    Thanks!

    Unless it's my camera or the lighting (or OCD), the GPU looks like it's sagging a bit.. how is that even possible on a card that short? :D
     
  25. WiSK

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    I measured on your picture, it drops 6 pixels over 480 pixels long. So about 0.72 degrees :)
     
  26. Phuncz

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    It might also be that the PCI brackets are set too high which makes it look like it sags.
    Interesting build !
     
  27. ncaser

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    Are there any updates on when the next batch will be coming around? I love my current one.
     
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    When using a 3.5HDD and a 92mm fan on the case floor are their positions switchable? Looking at the pictures I'm thinking probably not.
     
  30. goldy

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    Looks good besides the sagging on the GPU. Maybe get a bracket or something so it doesn't warp the PCB over time.
     
  31. b0yd07

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    Do you recommend staying with an SFX psu even if you have an ITX length gpu? I have neither a GPU or PSU yet, really unsure of how I want to build this thing. SFX psu and full length 970, or ATX psu and mini 970... Or SFX psu and ITX gpu... OR the new SFX-L psu and full length card if anyone can confirm that's even possible.
     
  32. Phuncz

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    He needed to go with an SFX PSU because he also wanted a 3,5" HDD while having fans at the bottom of the case. If he didn't need any of those two, he could have installed most ATX PSU models.
     
  33. asus11

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    anyone know if a gtx 980 classified would fit?
     
  34. tekm

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    Hope to see a cheaper shipping option soon. I'm tempted to upgrade to v3 and give my v2 to a friend, but I am not in a hurry to do so, and thus I don't mind waiting longer for the case to come.
     
  35. pointfiveo

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    That Gigabyte GTX 970 ITX is awesome. Must order. Could pair that with Seasonic Platinum Fanless 520W, am I correct?
     
  36. cambrian

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    Just preordered !
    using a cooler master elite 130 currently.
     
  37. FaDBh#R3Uu7La

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    I was wondering if it is possible to have neodymium magnets to secure the panels. Since they are more durable then the (Tooless Plastic Clips) :cool:
    Also thanks for the accessories, finally I can stuff 6 Hard drives inside the NCASE!


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  38. subspeed6

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    I love the M1, but the cost and other things made me decide against it...

    I travel a lot for work and the SG05 was the best case for me.

    If I had the money and such, the M1 would be a hands down mITX case to have. This case is just awesome. I tip my hat to necere and wahaha360.
     
  39. okwchin

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    Is the shipping calculator only limited to cases? I tried adding the power cable alone, and the shipping cost was blank.

    I'm thinking of ordering the power cable and adjusted SFX-L bracket when it becomes available.
     
  40. twwen2

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    Trying to purchase some accessories (top panels, clips) from the site, but the shipping options drop-down menu in the checkout is empty and won't let me proceed.