NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

Necere said:
Ordering through the website is pretty barebones currently, and as such there is no order confirmation besides from Paypal. As long as you have that though, you can be sure we have it on our end.
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Well, I got the message from PayPal, that the money was transferred to the Ncase Account - I also have an transaction number. So you say, that this is all I need to do and know, can relax and wait for the case to be delivered at the end of September?
 
einmannbude said:
Well, I got the message from PayPal, that the money was transferred to the Ncase Account - I also have an transaction number. So you say, that this is all I need to do and know, can relax and wait for the case to be delivered at the end of September?
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Yes.
 
The NCase M1 is tiny, but is able to support an internal radiator(s) and a longer video card. All other mini-ITX cases that I can find, which support longer video cards, are larger. To illustrate, see the following non-exhaustive list of mini-ITX cases:

Antec ------------------------------------------------

ISK600 - - - - - - - - - - - - - -260 195 369 mm - - - - - 18.70 L​

BitFetnix --------------------------------------------

Prodigy - - - - - - - - - - - - - 310 250 340 mm - - - - - 26.35 L​

Phenom Mini-ITX - - - - - - 330 250 374 mm - - - - - 30.85 L​

Colossus Mini-ITX - - - - - 330 250 374 mm - - - - - 30.85 L​


Cooler Master ----------------------------------------

Elite 130 - - - - - - - - - - - - -240 207 398 mm - - - - - 19.77 L​

Elite 120 Advanced - - - - -240 207 401 mm - - - - - 19.92 L​

Corsair ----------------------------------------------

Obsidian 250D - - - - - - - - 290 277 351 mm - - - - - 28.19 L​

Fractal Design ---------------------------------------

Node 304 - - - - -- - - - - - - 250 210 374 mm - - - - - 19.50 L​

In Win -----------------------------------------------

901 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 350 173 400 mm - - - - - 24.22 L​

Lian Li ----------------------------------------------

PC-Q08 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 272 227 345 mm - - - - - 21.30 L​

PC-TU200 - - - - - - - - - - - 320 220 360 mm - - - - - 25.34 L​

PC-Q18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 290 199 365 mm - - - - - 21.06 L​

PC-Q25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 280 199 366 mm - - - - - 20.39 L​

PC-Q36 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 320 246 324 mm - - - - - 25.50 L​

NCase ------------------------------------------------

M1 V2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 240 160 328 mm - - - - - 12.60 L​

Rosewill ---------------------------------------------

Legacy W1-B - - - - - - - - - -356 242 362 mm - - - - - 31.18 L​

Silverstone ------------------------------------------

Sugo SG08-LITE - - - - - - -222 190 351 mm - - - - - 14.80 L​

Thermaltake ------------------------------------------

Core V1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 276 260 316 mm - - - - - 22.67 L​
 
Guys, what is the volumetric of the adamantium ncase m1 reservoir?

-Nevermind, found it. 130ml.
 
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Anyone in the UK got theirs yet?
Been showing this for the past few days and had nothing at the door.
Attempted delivery(1st) Aug/16/2014 00:31
Reason for non-delivery Payment of charges
 
Shipping tracking info now says there was an attempted delivery on Saturday morning, but it failed because of 'Payment of fees'. I know someone was in at the time, and they said no postman/courier came, and I have no 'while you were out' notification so does that mean they didn't attempt to deliver because I need to pay first?

Does anyone know who the domestic carrier is in the UK? Royal mail or a courier?

EDIT: started writing my post before Avro posted his, I guess we're in the same boat
 
Tracking info? Do those who order the current ones get this? All I got was the Paypal confirmation and such.
 
UK folks: Looks like they're using Parcelforce for our end of the delivery, I punched in the CC tracking number and got an ECxxxGB number on the Parcelforce site. Latest two updates are below:

18/8/2014 10:21 National Hub Received and processed
18/8/2014 1:59 International Hub Revised charges to be paid

I was assuming they'd attempt to deliver and shake me down for ~£26 or something, not sure how they'll handle it. Probably going to be an attempt tomorrow for me. Anyone else, try putting the original tracking number into http://www.parcelforce.com/track-trace and see what happens, maybe give parcelfarce a bell?
 
whiteface said:
UK folks: Looks like they're using Parcelforce for our end of the delivery, I punched in the CC tracking number and got an ECxxxGB number on the Parcelforce site. Latest two updates are below:

18/8/2014 10:21 National Hub Received and processed
18/8/2014 1:59 International Hub Revised charges to be paid

I was assuming they'd attempt to deliver and shake me down for ~£26 or something, not sure how they'll handle it. Probably going to be an attempt tomorrow for me. Anyone else, try putting the original tracking number into http://www.parcelforce.com/track-trace and see what happens, maybe give parcelfarce a bell?
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Thanks Whiteface,
Got a parcelforce number and says '16/8/2014 0:31 London North West Depot…+ Awaiting payment of charges' so after a bit of reading it looks like I should get a letter in the post tomorrow saying how much I have to pay and the next day they will attempt a delivery.
 
This happened to me before when I ordered stuff from the US. You will recieve a letter from ParcelPorce which you can pay online or by telephone. BTW you will need to pay Parcel Force an extra £10 or so on top of import tax for handling of goods.
 
alabrand1 said:
Tracking info? Do those who order the current ones get this? All I got was the Paypal confirmation and such.
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Only those people that got air shipping from Taiwan got tracking numbers, because those are the only cases that have been shipped to end users.

The rest of the cases are on a ship on their way to the US, scheduled for arrival sometime later next month. At that point, w360 will be shipping them out to end users and tracking will be available at that time.
 
Necere said:
Only those people that got air shipping from Taiwan got tracking numbers, because those are the only cases that have been shipped to end users.

The rest of the cases are on a ship on their way to the US, scheduled for arrival sometime later next month. At that point, w360 will be shipping them out to end users and tracking will be available at that time.
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I see, thanks for clarifying that. Does the tracking info apply on a later date even to those who had to use US Air? And how do we receive the tracking info? E-mail? PayPal?
 
alabrand1 said:
I see, thanks for clarifying that. Does the tracking info apply on a later date even to those who had to use US Air? And how do we receive the tracking info? E-mail? PayPal?
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US air shipping = from the US to anywhere in the world by air
US economy = ground shipping within the US only

Both shipping options will only start when the cases have arrived in the US (late Sept.).

Understand, as soon as the cases were manufactured they needed to be shipped out from Taiwan - they couldn't be held there. So people that got orders in before August 4th had the option of air shipping direct from Taiwan. The unclaimed cases, along with US economy orders, got put on a cargo ship to the US.

W360 will update tracking in Paypal once those orders start shipping.
 
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Necere said:
US air shipping = from the US to anywhere in the world by air
US economy = ground shipping within the US only

Both shipping options will only start when the cases have arrived in the US (late Sept.).

Understand, as soon as the cases were manufactured they needed to be shipped out from Taiwan - they couldn't be held there. So people that got orders in before August 4th had the option of air shipping direct from Taiwan. The unclaimed cases, along with US economy orders, got put on a cargo ship to the US.

W360 will update tracking in Paypal once those orders start shipping.
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Thanks for the explanation!
 
Regarding the UK, i'm in the same situation.


Service:
Express 48
Tracking status:
Held

16/8/2014 12:43 Plymouth Depot Awaiting payment of charges

So i should be receiving a card?
I'll call tomorrow.
 
Necere said:
Only those people that got air shipping from Taiwan got tracking numbers, because those are the only cases that have been shipped to end users.

The rest of the cases are on a ship on their way to the US, scheduled for arrival sometime later next month. At that point, w360 will be shipping them out to end users and tracking will be available at that time.
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And its a slow boat too. :D Last time didn't someone have a way of tracking the boat as it made its way across the ocean? I seem to remember something about that.
 
Skott said:
And its a slow boat too. :D Last time didn't someone have a way of tracking the boat as it made its way across the ocean? I seem to remember something about that.
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Yes. Think it was WiSK and Adamantium that had high-level clearances to visually track the shipping containers en route and define precise arrival dates into certain ports. For US delivery, we had a high-speed Coast Guard cutter ship intercept dispatch #26 for escort into NJ once it left international waters. How that mission was initiated still remains classified. ;)
 
Late sept.? Bloody hell, it's the 21st century and it still takes a month to traverse an ocean. By the time we receive our cases in Europe NCASE M1 V4 will probably be out. :)

Btw I'm going with the 4790K for my build and was thinking of cooling it with a Noctua NH-L12. Any better choices for air cooling, or will it do nicely?
 
Malangyar said:
Btw I'm going with the 4790K for my build and was thinking of cooling it with a Noctua NH-L12. Any better choices for air cooling, or will it do nicely?
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Have you considered using an NH-C14? I'm assuming that you'll need VLP ram, but you'll need a motherboard with a well-placed socket so that the C14 doesn't interfere with your GPU. Also, if you're going to go with the C14, you most likely won't be able to use the 92mm fan on the back.
 
MertArm said:
Have you considered using an NH-C14? I'm assuming that you'll need VLP ram, but you'll need a motherboard with a well-placed socket so that the C14 doesn't interfere with your GPU. Also, if you're going to go with the C14, you most likely won't be able to use the 92mm fan on the back.
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Thanks for the suggestion. The C14 looks like it's going to be too much of a tight fit for me, I've read some people need to trim it and others have removed the lower fan. I'll be going with an ASUS Z97I-PLUS btw.
 
Guys/Necere.

What is the height of the reservoir tube in this sketch? 50 or 60mm?
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I am thinking of adding koolance base with ddc pump. And mount the reservoir just like in the picture. But i think the reservoir need to be a little further up to allow the tubing to pass through the hole. The problem with that is maybe it will block the AC power socket. :confused:
 
ruffstuff said:
What is the height of the reservoir tube in this sketch? 50 or 60mm?
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60x50mm

ruffstuff said:
I am thinking of adding koolance base with ddc pump.
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On the bottom of the case, like in the pic? You should be aware that there may not be enough vertical space under the GPU. The Koolance DDC top is 26mm tall, for an overall height of 48.6mm, plus ~2mm for a plug for the top inlet, so ~51mm total. The space you have will depend on which GPU block you use. The one in the model is a 13mm thick EK block and leaves ~47mm.

The top in the model is the Aquacover DDC, which is 6mm shorter than the Koolance and should (hypothetically, anyway) have just enough room. But again, it depends on how thick your GPU block is.

ruffstuff said:
And mount the reservoir just like in the picture. But i think the reservoir need to be a little further up to allow the tubing to pass through the hole.
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Why do you think that? The models are accurate to the published specs, and the fittings do approximately line up to the watercooling holes. And there's enough room for the tubing to bend to accommodate any offset between them.

Then again, if you're talking about mounting the pump+res to the back of the case, that does change things. Checking the model, I think it would be too awkward tbh. The ports on the the pump top are offset to the right of the watercooling holes, so a custom mounting bracket would need to be fabricated. The pump itself also extends down and partially block the GPU connectors in the first slot. I think a bottom-mounted pump and rear res is the easier option, as long as you're careful with component choice. There are a couple builds in the gallery with this setup.
 
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Looks like a new M1 Accessories page has been added to NCASES.com (unless I just missed it before).

Only shows panel kits at the moment, but now I'm hopeful for all the other goodies (spare clips, screws, new power cord, NCASE Rocks! stickers).


Also, I kinda forget now (and certainly won't be able to find it).. exactly how were the new v2 panels supposed to be an improvement?

I slightly recall this conversation between Necere & Phuncz, I think. Was it to improve panel gap, or warping.. and only in a particular location?
 
So the side panel kit comes with both sides, front and top panel w/ ODD slot?

Is there any way we can order a side panel kit with a top panel w/ no ODD slot?
 
Synomenon said:
So the side panel kit comes with both sides, front and top panel w/ ODD slot?
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Yes, I'm pretty sure that's correct.

Synomenon said:
Is there any way we can order a side panel kit with a top panel w/ no ODD slot?
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It appears, that you can only do this by purchasing both the v2 panel kit and the v2 no-ODD top panel ($68+$18). Which makes sense, since I really doubt W360 will be cutting open several of the shipments, swapping out top panels, and repackaging them. Maybe, but I doubt it.
 
Just a quick thought for future runs, but do more people not order it without the ODD slot and therefore the panel kit would be better as side panels and the top panel without ODD slot.

And a side note for UK people, just got the letter from Parcelforce and they want £26.02 (£18 to the tax man and £8 for themselves).

EDIT: Small question, does anyone know the size of the box the case is shipped in? Want to know if it's the sort of size I want to be picking up at the depot or not.
 
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Avro said:
Just a quick thought for future runs, but do more people not order it without the ODD slot and therefore the panel kit would be better as side panels and the top panel without ODD slot.
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No, judging by the statistics tab on the NCASE spreadsheet, it was roughly 50/50 with the V1, but the V2 currently has twice as many ODD users as non-ODD users. Necere or W360 could probably give us a more accurate number, but going by the spreadsheet, there are more ODD users than non-ODD.
 
Necere said:
60x50mm

On the bottom of the case, like in the pic? You should be aware that there may not be enough vertical space under the GPU. The Koolance DDC top is 26mm tall, for an overall height of 48.6mm, plus ~2mm for a plug for the top inlet, so ~51mm total. The space you have will depend on which GPU block you use. The one in the model is a 13mm thick EK block and leaves ~47mm.

The top in the model is the Aquacover DDC, which is 6mm shorter than the Koolance and should (hypothetically, anyway) have just enough room. But again, it depends on how thick your GPU block is.

Why do you think that? The models are accurate to the published specs, and the fittings do approximately line up to the watercooling holes. And there's enough room for the tubing to bend to accommodate any offset between them.

Then again, if you're talking about mounting the pump+res to the back of the case, that does change things. Checking the model, I think it would be too awkward tbh. The ports on the the pump top are offset to the right of the watercooling holes, so a custom mounting bracket would need to be fabricated. The pump itself also extends down and partially block the GPU connectors in the first slot. I think a bottom-mounted pump and rear res is the easier option, as long as you're careful with component choice. There are a couple builds in the gallery with this setup.
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Thanks for input. I've already made order for 60mm x 50mm reservoir with standard base. Will put ddc pump inside the case.Will try without custom top first. My gpu block is universal block to use on GTX680.
 
Just a quick question about tracking.

Ordered V2 on june, my tracking number is CC266954839TW, no activity for about 2 weeks.

Is that normal or am I just impatient?
 
Both of my V2 orders are non-ODD, mostly because I haven't used a disk drive in several years on any of my machines. It also looks better without the slot IMO. I'm not on the spreadsheet though.
 
I also ordered my V2 without an ODD slot. Partly because I don't really use it much (aside from the rare install of the old Diablo and Warcraft games) and partly because I don't like the look of it. Worst case scenario, I buy an USB ODD.
 
OK, all fees paid to parcel force, should be here tomorrow.

Cannot wait.

Seriously, why is the day sooooo long?
 
Allied said:
Just a quick question about tracking.
Ordered V2 on june, my tracking number is CC266954839TW, no activity for about 2 weeks.
Is that normal or am I just impatient?
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It's about time you take contact with your national postal office and mention the tracking number. The parcel is probably waiting somewhere in your country for delivery until you pay the required customs tax :).
 
Long time lurker here. Picked up the v2 and completed my build two days ago. It's looking pretty good so far, tight on space of course. Absolutely a pleasure to build in.

Only issue has been bleeding my H220 loop with my GPU in there. I did tight tubes so it was impossible to have a good amount of vertical space between the radiator and the other components. The fairly loud CPU cooler and the sound of water when I tilt the machine is letting me know there is definitely air trapped, but I've tried shaking it for three hours and let it run by itself overnight. I'm getting pretty high temperatures in the mid-50s at idle with my i7-4790K, but I've yet to stress test. Suggestions?
 
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