NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

jusutus said:
It's most definitely not the ONLY difference.

Splash:

+extra 120mm rad support
+easier to route the tubing
+room for a dedicated pump + res inside the case
+drainport / fillport option
-less options for HDD's (only 2 x 2.5")
-no ODD
-not so well finished, very "industrial" look
-heavy

M1:

+multiple HDD options
+beautiful finish, light as a feather
+enough room for decent air cooling
+ODD possibility
-very little room for a dedicated pump and reservoir (basically only external reservoirs possible)
-no drainport / fillport
-gets really crowded with tubing for CPU and GPU
-only a single 240mm rad will fit

AIO coolers will fit both easily of course.

But as for me, the extra 120mm rad in the Splash was a dealbreaker.
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Only difference in water cooling the case i meant.

The Splash will have lower temps just becasue it has the extra room inside for more air flow, I have a full loop in my build and I'm using a independent pump, M1 res, dual 120mm rad and a full motherboard waterblock and to tell you the truth my temps are always under 55c on the GPU and 60c on the CPU and thats on max load and this is with a 4.4ghz OC on the CPU to and its summer here and i dont have AC, Don't forget the splash uses a itx power supply as well so really you have no head room for a huge OC any ways.
 
Siba said:
How difficult is it to shorten the PP05-E cables?
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Once you have the tools that OverRated mentioned you should be set. If you're having trouble you can always look up a video online as a guide. From what I can remember Lutro0 had a good one. You should be able to get them done in one sitting if you have the patience. I sat down one Sunday and did all my wires while watching football.

If it is your first time I suggest you get extra female connectors. Shortening the cables make wire management a dream and your build will look so much cleaner. Also make sure the contact between the ATX pin and the rubber insulation is a strong one as the wires can slip if you aggressively bend the cables near the connectors.

I'll post some pics of mine later. Don't know why I've been so lazy uploading them. Best of luck.
 
Looking around to find the ST45SF-G PSU on Google. I click on shopping to see the PSU being sold at various stores, only to find that there is one site that sells it for $77.68. It's called TechCubicle, but the site looks really bland and there aren't that many offerings.

I got suspicious that they accept Euros and Pounds, as well as US dollars. The payment system seems to accept PayPal, credit/debit card, or cash on delivery. What online service would use COD anyway especially in the US? Not sure whether to buy it from Amazon or Newegg since they either charge sales tax or shipping at similar prices.
 
Perhaps they are just clearing stock. Or they accidentally put the price of the bronze ST45SF instead.
 
99.9% done building mine, had trouble tracking down an mSATA to SATA convertor, then decided I wanted a blu-ray drive instead of regular DVD...then decided to switch from a4-5300 to an a10-6800k.....had it all together, loaded windows then opted to swap out the H60 for an H100i and while doing so broke the mSATA to SATA adapter....:p

Waiting for the new adapter to show up then it will be all done - woot woot!
 
GAH!!! I didn't know you couldn't mount the h220 rad with 2 2.5 drives mounted on the front... :mad:
 
Is this still available to purchase?

Sorry if this is posted somewhere but I couldn't find it.
 
enyownz said:
Is this still available to purchase?

Sorry if this is posted somewhere but I couldn't find it.
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Sigh...it's in the first post. The ordering was a one time thing. They might have some available after February to clear out the extras they ordered but for now your only chance is ebay or the forums here.
 
rpgman1 said:
Looking around to find the ST45SF-G PSU on Google. I click on shopping to see the PSU being sold at various stores, only to find that there is one site that sells it for $77.68. It's called TechCubicle, but the site looks really bland and there aren't that many offerings.

I got suspicious that they accept Euros and Pounds, as well as US dollars. The payment system seems to accept PayPal, credit/debit card, or cash on delivery. What online service would use COD anyway especially in the US? Not sure whether to buy it from Amazon or Newegg since they either charge sales tax or shipping at similar prices.
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I think this could be price-matched at NCIX... I'm gonna try it when I buy my parts in 2 weeks. :D
 
commander_ said:
I think this could be price-matched at NCIX... I'm gonna try it when I buy my parts in 2 weeks. :D
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I tried, they won't because it'll eat into their profits. Instead they can sell it to you for $90ish before taxes. If you're in California that would make it $95.
 
The psu listed on NCIX is not the ST45SF-G, its the non-Gold rated model (ST45SF). Not sure if this matters to you or not.
 
Hey are the clips that a few people have broke look like this one?
I emailed Lian-Li about ordering some and they will sell them to anyone who contacts them, I ordered an extra set for myself
 
Picture looks good to me. So did you send an email to a specific address, or did you just use the generic email contact system on the global website?
 
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okwchin said:
Picture looks good to me. So did you send an email to a specific address, or did you just use the generic email contact system on the global website?
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stalkerte said:
Also, how much does LiLi want for them?
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Email is listed in my paypal invoice as well as the price which includes shipping.
Just email Baron and tell him you are looking for the M1 female case clips

 
holy expensive! they probably cost $0.02 to make!

*edit* just saw it includes shipping from TW...
 
Dephcon said:
holy expensive! they probably cost $0.02 to make!
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Yeah I agree but I wanted to have some if I happen to break any of mine and this was the only solution.

I emailed him back to find out how much with shipping it would cost for 2 or 3 sets and we shall see :)
 
Luckily for Lian-Li they'll get my business as I'd like to put my top panel back on :D
 
empoy said:
quite expensive clips. no other supplier?
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I'm not sure if they are expensive or it was the shipping, I am trying to find out more information but they aren't exactly in my timezone so I probably won't hear back until later tonight
 
Just got myself the Noctua NH-C12P SE14 today to go along with the Asrock Z87E-ITX mobo. Now I have to wait next week to get the Silverstone ST45SF-G PSU from Amazon. Hoping to build it next week for my brother since he didn't have enough to buy a GPU.
 
Bman69 said:
I'm not sure if they are expensive or it was the shipping, I am trying to find out more information but they aren't exactly in my timezone so I probably won't hear back until later tonight
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I just got quoted $18 for a dozen spare clips including shipping to Hawaii.

Fairly reasonable imo considering it's international airmail (at least I think/hope it's airmail)
 
imode said:
I just got quoted $18 for a dozen spare clips including shipping to Hawaii.

Fairly reasonable imo considering it's international airmail (at least I think/hope it's airmail)
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Nope, another 40 days on the slow boat via scenic New Jersey! :D

Just kidding (I hope!)

Someone should suggest they make M1 spare parts (clips, screws, feet, power cord, etc) available at their US resellers (FrozenCPU & PerformancePCS, I think), since they seem to carry most of Lian Li's parts anyway.
 
imode said:
I just got quoted $18 for a dozen spare clips including shipping to Hawaii.

Fairly reasonable imo considering it's international airmail (at least I think/hope it's airmail)
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I was quoted at $14 for 2 sets (8 total pieces) and $18 for 3 sets (12 pieces) to give everyone an idea, keep in mind that 1 set was $9 shipped
 
So after pulling my M1 apart to fix the over tightened CPU socket screws i finally have it back together with brand new red tubing as my clear turned yellow.

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Bman69 said:
I was quoted at $14 for 2 sets (8 total pieces) and $18 for 3 sets (12 pieces) to give everyone an idea, keep in mind that 1 set was $9 shipped
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Sounds like a buck a piece not including shipping. Decent enough price for a little piece of mind I suppose. :)
 
Haven't decided what cooling options to go with my rig.

Current specs:
-Core i7 3770K
-2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600
-Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe
-Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce
-2x240GB Intel 520 Series SSD
-1TB Western Digital Black 3.5" HDD
-ST45SF-G

Notes:
-The PCIe plugs on the Silverstone PSU's cables need to be bent awkwardly to fit into the current card's plugs. Might want to get custom cables and sleeves later.
-The Intel 520 SSDs, if joined together using the stacking brackets, need to have the preinstalled black plastic adapters unscrewed (which I think voids its warranty) if you want both of them to have their SATA/power plugs facing the same end.
-The graphics card's back fan touches the 3.5" HDD if it's mounted at the bottom of the case. Currently leaving the side panel open and the HDD outside while I decide on a replacement GPU.

Questions:
-Would the ST45SF-G be able to handle a 290X and a 4.0GHz clocked 3770K?
-Would a H220 be able to handle the CPU and the 290X added to the loop? If yes, would it be advisable to get extras such as a reservoir for that?
-Is it possible to stack the SSDs on the inside 2.5" HDD mounts behind the PSU and not obstruct a 240mm radiator?
-Any recommended high airflow slim 120mm case fans?
 
yimingwuzere said:
Haven't decided what cooling options to go with my rig.

Current specs:
-Core i7 3770K
-2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600
-Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe
-Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce
-2x240GB Intel 520 Series SSD
-1TB Western Digital Black 3.5" HDD
-ST45SF-G

Notes:
-The PCIe plugs on the Silverstone PSU's cables need to be bent awkwardly to fit into the current card's plugs. Might want to get custom cables and sleeves later.
-The Intel 520 SSDs, if joined together using the stacking brackets, need to have the preinstalled black plastic adapters unscrewed (which I think voids its warranty) if you want both of them to have their SATA/power plugs facing the same end.
-The graphics card's back fan touches the 3.5" HDD if it's mounted at the bottom of the case. Currently leaving the side panel open and the HDD outside while I decide on a replacement GPU.

Questions:
-Would the ST45SF-G be able to handle a 290X and a 4.0GHz clocked 3770K?
-Would a H220 be able to handle the CPU and the 290X added to the loop? If yes, would it be advisable to get extras such as a reservoir for that?
-Is it possible to stack the SSDs on the inside 2.5" HDD mounts behind the PSU and not obstruct a 240mm radiator?
-Any recommended high airflow slim 120mm case fans?
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I run a GTX 780 TI with a 4470k @ 4.4Ghz it pulls about 400w you will be pushing it as i know the 290x pulls more than a 780 TI some think like 40w more.

The H220 should be able to handle both your GPU and GPU but you may want to look at a custom loop if your looking at a res as well.

Only 1 ssd will fit on the inside front panel if your using a 240mm rad, If your not using a dvd drive on the front i would stack two there like i have but you will need to make your own brackets up.

I wouldn't use slimline fans on any rad they just dont move enough air just get a set of Corsair SP fans.
 
I got my 8pcs ordered. I requested a full M1 parts list from Baron, I'll pass it along when I hear back.
 
OverRated said:
I run a GTX 780 TI with a 4470k @ 4.4Ghz it pulls about 400w you will be pushing it as i know the 290x pulls more than a 780 TI some think like 40w more.

The H220 should be able to handle both your GPU and GPU but you may want to look at a custom loop if your looking at a res as well.

Only 1 ssd will fit on the inside front panel if your using a 240mm rad, If your not using a dvd drive on the front i would stack two there like i have but you will need to make your own brackets up.

I wouldn't use slimline fans on any rad they just dont move enough air just get a set of Corsair SP fans.
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The slim fan is for the bottom of the case. Just wondering if the extra airflow will help.

I guess I won't be pushing the CPU that much, until the rumoured 600W ST60SF-G turns out to be real. That, or I might end up with a 770 or 780 with a waterblock.
 
OverRated said:
Only 1 ssd will fit on the inside front panel if your using a 240mm rad,
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Depends on the rad and orientation, actually. The H220 rad only allows one because it's longer than a normal 240 rad due to the built-in res, but other rads may allow two SSDs to stack on the inside front.

OverRated said:
If your not using a dvd drive on the front i would stack two there like i have but you will need to make your own brackets up.
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You can use the included brackets to stack two 7mm drives behind the front panel, but the drives need to be face-to-face and it may push the front panel out ever so slightly (~0.5mm).
 
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