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NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)
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drklu
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If it is the fittings being pushed down by the rad, try this:
1. Move the AC inlet to the alternate location
2. Reinstall the fan bracket on the higher screw holes
This pic shows what I'm talking about:
This is exactly the scenario this workaround was intended to address.
If I had to guess, he may not have read the rules first (see the parts regarding vendors at the bottom).
FreeGordonMan
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I guess so
. All the holes line up properly and with a little adjustment before you tighten the screws the ports in the back line up dead center as well. The thread inserts seemed fine. I've installed and removed the reservoir a couple times now.Edit: upon further inspection I've noticed the acrylic on mine is slightly crooked. You can't tell by looking at it but if you run a finger along the whole edge you can feel the parts that stick out over the acetal edge. I'm hoping I can remove some of the shavings with distilled water tomorrow.
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adamantium
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That's too bad. I wonder how to find out what happened. I was glad to see a contact that could answer questions and provide status.
No not yet. Still sitting around waiting. Parts just waiting around too. I cancelled my vacation day today and went back to work since I still hadn't received any news. Around noon today I got my first update that one of my packages had been processed through the sorting facility, and about an hour ago I got an update that it had left the sorting facility. Sounds like it is moving real fast. I suspect they are employing the Stooge Sort algorythm, or even better the Bogosort. Maybe they just ran out of truck drivers.
Anyway I plan to pick it up in the morning at my local post office if it arrives overnight. I already called them and told them to hold it so that I am not waiting all day for the mail man to visit. I hope they can make the 19 minute trip from the sorting facility to my local post office in the 15 hours or so that remain before they send the trucks out. The lady at the post office said the trucks don't go out for parcel deliveries until around noon. Of course they will have to sort it when it gets there too (not sure which algorithm they will use). If I can get my hands on one of them, it will give me something to do while I wait some more for the other one to arrive. I hope all this waiting is about to become a distant memory.I completely missed the fact that the AC inlet could be moved over. Thanks!
That definitely would of saved me some trouble.
It amazing how flexible of design you came up with.
adamantium
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That makes sense. Sounds like he can get back in with proper approval and verification.
adamantium
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I guess so
That is good to hear. Thanks again for the info. Can't wait to see some running with the reservoir.
drklu
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+1 yes pics please. T\he fitting choice is kinda hard without having any of it assembled.
Update after taking Necere advice.
Video card is still slanted but I can physically push it to a straight position now. Before this was not possible. The reason it still slanted is the tube going from radiator to video card I made slightly to long so it applies downward pressure on the video card.
I am going to leave it as is because draining the entire loop and refilling it would be way to much work and am pretty sure the video card going to be alright.
On the plus side I can remove and install the radiator easily now that I don't have to force it over the fittings.
For other people considering a similar build with careful planning and measuring am pretty sure you can do a full loop using a Asus impact, H220 while keeping a long video card straight.
Video card is still slanted but I can physically push it to a straight position now. Before this was not possible. The reason it still slanted is the tube going from radiator to video card I made slightly to long so it applies downward pressure on the video card.
I am going to leave it as is because draining the entire loop and refilling it would be way to much work and am pretty sure the video card going to be alright.
On the plus side I can remove and install the radiator easily now that I don't have to force it over the fittings.
For other people considering a similar build with careful planning and measuring am pretty sure you can do a full loop using a Asus impact, H220 while keeping a long video card straight.
I've been spending a few hours today putting my M1 together. Still playing with it, but I wanted to ask:
Is there a post or guide on what all the different screws are for? Some look to be for the fan filters, others I have no idea what they are. I'm sure someone has explained it in the 450+ pages but my searches have come up short.
Thanks!
Is there a post or guide on what all the different screws are for? Some look to be for the fan filters, others I have no idea what they are. I'm sure someone has explained it in the 450+ pages but my searches have come up short.
Thanks!
Yeah, that's something I still need to do. Once my case arrives I'll take a picture and label them. In the meantime, there's this post from a couple weeks back. It's a little cluttered because it's Phuncz's pic with my labels edited in (in red), but it should still be useful.
Phuncz
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Upon closer inspection I don't see any stress cracks in the acrylic and from an angle it looks beautiful. I do wish they spent a little more time cleaning the inside of the acrylic
Reservoir lines up a couple mm above the bottom of the i/o shield
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Damn that looks awesome. I wish I could convince myself to go watercooling, but I'm apparently looking at about 400$ just to get my GPU cooled. Nice piece of hardware that reservoir is.
Could you tell me how far it is from the heatsink to the side panel? Do you think it could be plausible to fit a 25 mm thick fan and a 30 mm thick single 120 mm radiator there?So the Noctua NH-C12P officially barely fits with the Asrock Z87e:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/princecupid214/Ncase M1/DSC_0777_zpsf7e05726.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/princecupid214/Ncase M1/DSC_0775_zps2e69e63c.jpg
I think the top panel touches the heatsink
From the pic I'm estimating that there's only around 50 mm or less of space but it would be nice to know for sure with a proper measurement.
I'm curious as to whether it's possible to build a very low noise high performance gaming system by using an ATX psu and using the mobo space to cool both the cpu and gpu with a single fan in a heatsink+rad "sandwich".
A single 120 mm rad is plenty to cool a gpu and the Noctua NH-L12 heatsink leaves enough space for a rad+fan(+shroud/duct). I think it would be very interesting if the beefier NH-C12P could also be used like this.
Here are the measurements of the heatsinks:
The NH-C12P at 91 mm tall is about as tall as the NH-L12 at 93 mm inluding the 25 mm fan (66 mm without the fan). Phuncz wrote that the distance from the NH-L12 heatsink to the side panel is just over 70 mm. The NH-C12P heatsink is 25 mm thicker which leaves 45 mm which isn't enough for a 25 mm fan + 30 mm rad. But he also wrote that there is about 55-60 mm left over the cpu which hopefully refers to the space between the NH-L12 (with fan) and the side panel. 55-60 mm would be enough for the heatsink+rad "sandwich".
Without the fan bracket, there's 135mm available for the CPU cooler. With the fan bracket, it's 130mm.
He must have a case or he wouldn't of been able to do the different cooling setup reviews
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He must have a case or he wouldn't of been able to do the different cooling setup reviews
He had the prototype (or prototypes) for a period of time for testing before the 2nd IGG campaign began, but has no case of his own currently. The_Cheese now has the prototype for his generous contribution, and if there were others, they were probably sent back to Lian Li.
I agree that Necere & W360 should have received early VIP cases, mostly as a perk for their hard work, but also so Necere could have done earlier test fitting on the Demci filters, as well as for reference in answering others' questions (ie, screw identification).
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Los Angeles, CA here. Still no case or update to the tracking number.
I still have the first prototype, actually, though it's not in an entirely usable state (had to transplant the cables to the 3rd sample, which went to The_Cheese). The second sample went to w360 for evaluation (that's the one that had subpar exterior panel edges due to NCT vs. laser cutting).
It's true I should have had one of the production cases air shipped to me so I could sort out the filter business and whatever else; I just didn't anticipate that I would need to at the time those arrangements were being made. The filter thing is really my fault for waffling on; they'd have had the order page up on their site 6 weeks ago if I hadn't emailed them to hold off on it because I thought I could come up with a better design. Now it's the holidays and the person that was arranging that won't be back until a week into January. Ah well.
As for serials, since they're being distributed more or less randomly to (nearly) everyone else, I don't really feel like I should be exempt from that. I know some people were kind of bummed they didn't get a low number because they backed early or were on the list or whatever else, but I understand why w360 elected not to try to do that. Coordinating between manufacturing and packing the cases with the correct serial, color, top cover, and then making sure the shipping company gets everything right and hoping everyone gets exactly the right thing, all through phone and emails from halfway around the world... I can't blame him. He's got his hands full as is with replacements for damage/defects, or the few people that got the wrong color.
ill trade my black one when it arrives for a silver one LOL
adamantium
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I sure could have used an air shipped one for the reservoir. We could have had pictures, video, and the assurance that the thing fit properly before production. Lucky it sounds like that wasn't necessary. I would have paid for air shipping myself if it had been offered as an option, and I would have lobbied for delivery to Long Beach California if bulk delivery to New York had been discussed. But alas it wasn't to be. Some lessons to be learned.
I got mine delivered on the 24th. It's sitting at the USPS facility though since I was out of town. I was shipping #26. You should be getting yours very very soon.
#0545 (Black with ODD) arrived safely in the SF Bay Area on the morning of the 27th. It's spectacular!
Is anyone out there willing to sell their 3.5" drive cage? Necere/wahaha360, do you have a spare you could sell me? I'm building this as a NAS box/HTPC.
Is anyone out there willing to sell their 3.5" drive cage? Necere/wahaha360, do you have a spare you could sell me? I'm building this as a NAS box/HTPC.
drklu
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Does anyone have a render/pic with the Frozenq res with cpu/gpu water cooling? Ideally with the Apogee Drive II ? I have a general idea of the fittings that will be needed but something to look at would be nice. I saw a render a while back with a full loop but I want to say it was with a prototype reservoir.
edit: I know I will need 90 degree fittings off the gpu. Not really sure what else is needed for the adII/res/rad. I've seen all the older renders, I was wondering if anyone made a more recent one.
Not that this will even matter unless frozenq gets back to me about my scratched res and the missing mounting inserts.
edit: I know I will need 90 degree fittings off the gpu. Not really sure what else is needed for the adII/res/rad. I've seen all the older renders, I was wondering if anyone made a more recent one.
Not that this will even matter unless frozenq gets back to me about my scratched res and the missing mounting inserts.
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trick_m0nkey
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Got my case today. Holy shit's it's glorious. Best crowd funded campaign ever.
Just opened my package last night. Been making sweet love to it ever since. So many finger prints all over it now!
Question: For those of you with ODD, what slot-loading blu-ray drive are you guys getting? It seems like this (link) is the the only blu-ray slot-loading drive available today on Newegg/Amazon. Can we even take the Panasonic UJ-265 out of the bracket? What would you guys recommend? Or is it better to disassemble an external blu-ray drive, etc, assuming that we absolutely want an ODD internally?
Question: For those of you with ODD, what slot-loading blu-ray drive are you guys getting? It seems like this (link) is the the only blu-ray slot-loading drive available today on Newegg/Amazon. Can we even take the Panasonic UJ-265 out of the bracket? What would you guys recommend? Or is it better to disassemble an external blu-ray drive, etc, assuming that we absolutely want an ODD internally?
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I am on the east coast, in the US.
The USPS attempted a delivery a few days ago, but required a signature. They left this at the door (my address removed):
The box was in pretty good shape:
I have #0136:
And a few size comparisons against other Lian Li cases (sorry for poor picture quality):
I'll detail my build later.
Thanks for a great case guys!!!!
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The USPS attempted a delivery a few days ago, but required a signature. They left this at the door (my address removed):
The box was in pretty good shape:
I have #0136:
And a few size comparisons against other Lian Li cases (sorry for poor picture quality):
I'll detail my build later.
Thanks for a great case guys!!!!
-1o57
#282 arrived in Nowhere, Maine on the 24th. Would have told you guys earlier but we just got power back today.
This is my first high end case (fully aluminum, over 100 bucks) and I'm really surprised how sturdy things are. I thought I'd have to be more careful handling it, but everything that's not a fan vent has much less flex that I was anticipating.
I thought I'd be able to be really patient for everything, since I wasn't getting too antsy for the case to arrive. But now that I have it, I'm crossing out the days waiting for Kaveri to be available. I can't wait until I can start building. Already got the SSD, so now I've only got another 500 to spend before I can put everything together.
Big thanks to everyone involved in making this a timely reality. It's the second best Christmas present I got next to the electricity coming back on.
This is my first high end case (fully aluminum, over 100 bucks) and I'm really surprised how sturdy things are. I thought I'd have to be more careful handling it, but everything that's not a fan vent has much less flex that I was anticipating.
I thought I'd be able to be really patient for everything, since I wasn't getting too antsy for the case to arrive. But now that I have it, I'm crossing out the days waiting for Kaveri to be available. I can't wait until I can start building. Already got the SSD, so now I've only got another 500 to spend before I can put everything together.
Big thanks to everyone involved in making this a timely reality. It's the second best Christmas present I got next to the electricity coming back on.
drklu
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How are they steep? The 4 I'm seeing are currently bid at $215.00, $235.00, $ 242.50, and $250.00. Given the fees it seems pretty reasonable to me.
Edit: Ok the one guys "buy it now" price of $700 is a bit ridiculous.
trick_m0nkey
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I almost had to put mine up, but then unexpected bonus hit for the first year ever, and now my build is back on track!
I ordered a Heatkiller GPU-X³ for my 290X today as well as the tubing and stuff needed to expand the H220 I already have, and then I ordered my Asus Z77-I Deluxe and the Swiftech 450 watt PSU today. I should have everything complete for me to dedicate the 11th to getting this built.
I'm so excited this is moving forward!