MSI X570 Tomahawk review: possibly the best $200 X570

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Bought 2 of the Tomahawks x570 for new builds for my kids. This is for upcoming zen3 5700x CPU. The non-wifi Asus TUF x570 is ~$90CDN cheaper and wifi TUF x570 ~$70CDN. My understanding is TUF also has decent VRMs and features. As a bonus, Asus mobos are supported by iCUE Corsair RGB software, also I'm leaning toward buying TUF 3080 GPU. I don't care about wifi, however i like stability and support. Do you guys think Tomahawk is worth paying premium over Asus TUF?

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Bought 2 of the Tomahawks x570 for new builds for my kids. This is for upcoming zen3 5700x CPU. The non-wifi Asus TUF x570 is ~$90CDN cheaper and wifi TUF x570 ~$70CDN. My understanding is TUF also has decent VRMs and features. As a bonus, Asus mobos are supported by iCUE Corsair RGB software, also I'm leaning toward buying TUF 3080 GPU. I don't care about wifi, however i like stability and support. Do you guys think Tomahawk is worth paying premium over Asus TUF?

Please advise.

I'm an old man but can you adopt me? lol
Those will be some awesome systems for the kids!

MSI has always had good boards, but their cheaper X570 boards got some harsh press for skimping out on the VRMs.
This new X570 Tomahawk now gets outstanding reviews and it's MSI saying they got the message.

Take a look at the review in the first post of this thread if you haven't.
The X570 Tomahawk got Buildzoid's stamp of approval for great VRM design.

I used to buy ASUS boards years ago and was happy with them. I've been buying MSI boards since the 4790K days though
and have been very happy with them. I still have an MSI PC Mate with a 4690K running at 4.5Ghz on my workbench.
Another system I use a lot is an MSI B450 Tomahawk and that's been great too. That one also got good press.

I'm a self-employed IT guy and I bought the X570 Tomahawk for my main every day driver. It has to work well and it does.

So that's my endorsement. lol

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Crazy you guys are able to get them... only one available on NewEgg is $333... not exactly a bargain anymore at that price. I ended up just getting a B550 (MSI MPG gaming wifi) )+ 3700x for my kid since it had all the features I needed. Heck half the B550's had more features than the x570's. It was disappointing to see most didn't have multi-gig or 10g or a front usb gen 2 header. :(

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-x570...omahawk-_-13-144-310-_-Product&quicklink=true
 

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Crazy you guys are able to get them... only one available on NewEgg is $333... not exactly a bargain anymore at that price. I ended up just getting a B550 (MSI MPG gaming wifi) )+ 3700x for my kid since it had all the features I needed. Heck half the B550's had more features than the x570's. It was disappointing to see most didn't have multi-gig or 10g or a front usb gen 2 header. :(

https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi/p/N82E16813144310?Description=x570 tomahawk&cm_re=x570_tomahawk-_-13-144-310-_-Product&quicklink=true

This is whack.... Canadian newegg has it for 299 with free shipping. First time ever something is cheaper up north LOL
 
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I'm an old man but can you adopt me? lol
Those will be some awesome systems for the kids!

MSI has always had good boards, but their cheaper X570 boards got some harsh press for skimping out on the VRMs.
This new X570 Tomahawk now gets outstanding reviews and it's MSI saying they got the message.

Take a look at the review in the first post of this thread if you haven't.
The X570 Tomahawk got Buildzoid's stamp of approval for great VRM design.

I used to buy ASUS boards years ago and was happy with them. I've been buying MSI boards since the 4790K days though
and have been very happy with them. I still have an MSI PC Mate with a 4690K running at 4.5Ghz on my workbench.
Another system I use a lot is an MSI B450 Tomahawk and that's been great too. That one also got good press.

I'm a self-employed IT guy and I bought the X570 Tomahawk for my main every day driver. It has to work well and it does.

So that's my endorsement. lol

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Yeap... thanks for your reply I will stick with TOmahawk. I really dislike Asus chipset fan positioning and I saw few users with GPU mounting issues. One of them was Gigabyte 1070... Since I don't know what GPU I will be buying, I don't want to take any chances.

Sorry but adoption won't happen LOL this is for their bdays + their money for their systems. I wouldn't go for bling (h110 platinum, LL120 fans... etc). I'm more of D15 HSF and 200mm case fans LOL.

One of my kids is currently using my old gaming system with MSI mobo driving 3570k with TR Silver Arrow HSF :) And my younger one is using 6500 with MSI mobo as well.
My current system uses Asrock Taichi and I have Gigabyte and Asus HTPCs. I'm not married to any brand and I always try to do some research and ask [H] friends for help! :)

The GPUs they will be getting for xmas, if there will be in stock.
 

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This whack.... Canadian newegg has it for 299 with free shipping. First time ever something is cheaper up north LOL
Yeah, I've seen a few guys in the UK and Canada talk about it, but here in the USA... we haven't really gotten much supply and the price stays inflated to where its not such a good deal. Well, glad you were able to get some decent prices on it though, so I know they exist somewhere ;). I had my eye on it for a long time, finally just gave up and moved on.

ps. You guys have issues with Dragon Center? Mine won't run worth anything (loads and launches, but the menu is empty so I can't do a single thing). Put in a ticket with MSI and have gotten ZERO response.
 

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This is whack.... Canadian newegg has it for 299 with free shipping. First time ever something is cheaper up north LOL

I got mine mid July from Newegg at $219 USD. Newegg and Amazon get them every so often,
I just happened to check when they had them.

I'm also using the D15 (Black) HSF and it keeps the 3900XT @4.4Ghz all core cool just fine.

See this thread for MSI BIOS settings:

https://hardforum.com/threads/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-voltage-confusion.1988044/post-1044723437

ETA: Haven't used Dragon Center or Ryzen Master on this board, just BIOS settings.

Amazon (third party) has it for $257 USD now if you don't want to wait.

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Crazy you guys are able to get them... only one available on NewEgg is $333... not exactly a bargain anymore at that price.

That's a speculative seller - they don't have stock, but take your money and drop ship you the board when it is available and pocket the difference (note their shipping times).

I knew some would show up eventually and caught Amazon at the right time last week and bought one for $219. Estimated arrival was as late as the middle of October, but it looks like it will be here tomorrow, so yay.

https://www.nowinstock.net/full_historydetails/810/48810/

TomaOrder.jpg
 
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That's a speculative seller - they don't have stock, but take your money and drop ship you the board when it is available and pocket the difference (note their shipping times).

I knew some would show up eventually and caught Amazon at the right time last week and bought one for $219. Estimated arrival was as late as the middle of October, but it looks like it will be here tomorrow, so yay.

https://www.nowinstock.net/full_historydetails/810/48810/
Yeah, I didn't look that close after seeing the price, lol. I am not looking anymore, I already purchased a B550 that gave me everything I needed for less than the Tomohawk, the PC it went in still has a SATA SSD, so it's not as if I'm missing anything with pcie 3.0 on the chipset. It's running a 3700x (65w chip) so power delivery should be perfectly fine. Of course, when I first started looking, the B550's weren't out and then availability of those was spotty as well, but I got one during the time they were kind of hard to find. The Tomahawk was be announced almost a year before it was "available" and then it was near impossible to get, they finally started trickling out, but it was a complete dissapointment so I gave up on it and saved some money in the process.
 

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I will admit that I was pretty close to getting the B550 Tomahawk, it has the same 60A vrms, just 10/2/1 instead of 12+2, and is also highly rated for current capacity.

Either board should have enough power delivery for the Zen 3 chips, which I will upgrade to in year or two when they come down in price.
 

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Zen 3 BIOS

MSI has just announced the release of the AMD Combo PI V2 1.1.0.0 BIOS Firmware which offers improved support and compatibility with existing and next-generation Ryzen processors...AMD X570 chipset motherboards will be receiving the BIOS update first followed by B550 & A520 chipset-based motherboards

According to MSI's blog post, the AMD Combo PI V2 1.1.0.0 BIOS update will release in four phases...A total of 10 MSI X570 motherboards will be receiving the BIOS update starting today while B550 & additional X570 motherboards will be added to the support list by the middle of October...MSI will also have the BIOS Firmware ready for its A520 series motherboards by end of October while MSI plans to phase out the BETA release with the official MP BIOS starting in early November...

https://www.msi.com/blog/amd-combo-pi-v2-1100-bios
 
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They have a beta BIOS posted with this update for the X570 Tomahawk, but I'll wait.


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I'm looking at this board for Zen 3. I'm assuming x570 boards are expected to at least boot a Zen 3 chip with whatever BIOS it comes with from the factory? I don't necessarily mean run optimally, just that I can actually get in the BIOS and flash it with the latest.

Or will I need to jump through a hoop to update the BIOS before I install a Zen 3 CPU? Haven't owned an AMD chip since a 4400 x2, so I have no other processor on hand.
 

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I'm looking at this board for Zen 3. I'm assuming x570 boards are expected to at least boot a Zen 3 chip with whatever BIOS it comes with from the factory? I don't necessarily mean run optimally, just that I can actually get in the BIOS and flash it with the latest.

Or will I need to jump through a hoop to update the BIOS before I install a Zen 3 CPU? Haven't owned an AMD chip since a 4400 x2, so I have no other processor on hand.
I'm on the same boat as you are. I picked up 2 tomahawk x570 mobos and according to the manual (page 46) you can update BIOS without CPU/RAM installed. Also I've read somewhere most (if not all) b550/x570 mobos offer this BIOS update in anticipation for ZEN3 CPUs.
I don't believe you could boot up with non-ZEN3 BIOS installed even though mobo supports it. I'm planning to upgrade my mobos, after ZEN3 reveal in 4 days! Good luck :)
 

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I'm on the same boat as you are. I picked up 2 tomahawk x570 mobos and according to the manual (page 46) you can update BIOS without CPU/RAM installed. Also I've read somewhere most (if not all) b550/x570 mobos offer this BIOS update in anticipation for ZEN3 CPUs.
I don't believe you could boot up with non-ZEN3 BIOS installed even though mobo supports it. I'm planning to upgrade my mobos, after ZEN3 reveal in 4 days! Good luck :)

Guess this is the route I'll take.

Now I just need to find one of these things.
 

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I'm on the same boat as you are. I picked up 2 tomahawk x570 mobos and according to the manual (page 46) you can update BIOS without CPU/RAM installed. Also I've read somewhere most (if not all) b550/x570 mobos offer this BIOS update in anticipation for ZEN3 CPUs.
I don't believe you could boot up with non-ZEN3 BIOS installed even though mobo supports it. I'm planning to upgrade my mobos, after ZEN3 reveal in 4 days! Good luck :)

yes it has a Flash Bios button where you can update the BIOS without any memory/CPU/GPU installed
 
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