MSI has entered the handheld segment, using Intel hardware.

interesting...

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Is the handheld market cyclical? Feels like devices come and go in waves.
 
Will it come with asbestos mittens?

It was only a matter of time before Intel threw their card in the hat.
 
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I'm curious about this device. Not in the market for one (Steam Deck is still working fine for me), but I am interested to see how Arc performs in this form factor. I've been really impressed with how Intel has been handling Arc improvements.

fprish said:
Is the handheld market cyclical? Feels like devices come and go in waves.
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Some of the manufacturers release a new model every few months, it seems.
 
SeymourGore said:
I'm curious about this device. Not in the market for one (Steam Deck is still working fine for me), but I am interested to see how Arc performs in this form factor. I've been really impressed with how Intel has been handling Arc improvements.



Some of the manufacturers release a new model every few months, it seems.
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You're probably right. A lot to keep track of.
 
It'll be fine....



*Edited to include sarcasm stance.......
 
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Just got my Legion Go Thursday, shame there wasn't a 32GB version, but I'll take care of that soon, I want to practice soldering BGA chips first. I like the fact I can remove the joycons and use it as a chunky Win-tablet.

No word of the screen size for the MSI tho.

ZodaEX said:
Nothing wrong with liking the claw.
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What is the point of people wanting 32gb for these devices? 16gb should be plenty given how weak these devices are.
 
vegeta535 said:
What is the point of people wanting 32gb for these devices? 16gb should be plenty given how weak these devices are.
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I don't know how the Intel parts will perform but it makes sense for the higher-end AMD APUs, especially since they aren't optimized like the Deck and have to run a full version of Windows.
 
vegeta535 said:
What is the point of people wanting 32gb for these devices? 16gb should be plenty given how weak these devices are.
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Massive performance gain, look at my 32GB Legion Go mods thread.
Also since this is a Windows device, you can run RAM intensive tasks, I think Blender what some uTuber was trying.

EDIT: OK, I thought there were some performance videos of the mod...... might have been for the Ally, but still like specs.
 
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Loving my ROG Ally. At first glance, The Claw looks like it should have been named The Clone.
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Pretty much, I just got my Legion Go and fairly happy with it. Companies late to the game need to stand out to what's been out and matured at this point. I'm not sure if the Ultra chips or 32GB would lure much.
I picked the Go because it's pretty much a gaming Windows tablet.
 
As it currently stands, though, the ASUS ROG Ally is the safer bet for most people who want the best value portable gaming device with more reliable performance, while the Steam Deck is the way to go if you want to avoid the hassle which is Windows 11 and strictly use it for play, and not productivity.

I see the Claw very much as a beta device. MSI and Intel have a lot riding on this, and because of that, I’m convinced the Claw is not in its final state yet and still has lots of driver updates and performance improvements on the horizon. If you’re interested in a newer device, the underdog if you will, that is continuing to get tweaked and fine-tuned, try the Claw.

One of the biggest reasons that I could put up with all the MSI Claw's oddities is that come with Windows 11, so that you can hook it up to a monitor and connect your mouse and keyboard and use it as a desktop replacement. For general productivity, it does an excellent job and I think this might be the biggest strength of that Intel chip.

For the most part, I could forget that I was using a portable device. I’m someone who has way too many Chome tabs open at once and at the same time, I’ve got Slack open and a few other apps. It all runs extremely smoothly and I’d go as far as to say that as a desktop replacement, the MSI Claw does a better job than the Ally because of that extra CPU horsepower for multitasking.

Although I can’t take full advantage of playing beautiful games like Red Dead 2 on my ultra-wide gaming monitor at max settings, for less demanding games at 1080p, the MSI Claw holds its own.

https://www.tomsguide.com/gaming/ha...n-entire-week-and-im-shocked-by-what-happened
 
32gb 7" & 8" Lunar Lake based Claw 2 to arrive before the end of this year

Marees said:

MSI Claw 7 AI+ with Lunar Lake and 32GB RAM now available for preorder at $799​

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MSI Claw PC Gaming Handheld: Intel Ultra 7-258V, 7" FHD 120Hz Display, 32GB LPDDR5, 512GB NVMe SSD, MicroSD Card Reader, Thunderbolt 4, Win 11 Home: Black 7 AI+ A2VM-001US​


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...babf2be954eb6&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl


MSI Claw 8 AI+ revealed: up to Core Ultra 7 258V, 32GB RAM, $899 price and late December launch

MSI Claw PC Gaming Handheld: Intel Ultra 7-258V, 8" FHD 120Hz Display, 32GB LPDDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, MicroSD Card Reader, Thunderbolt 4, Win 11 Home: Black 8 AI+ A2VM-001US​


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...a79f418a0ce43&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Via VideoCardz

https://x.com/VideoCardz/status/1862450786363428980

https://x.com/VideoCardz/status/1862452326599884870

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I saw them blowing out the lower spec Claw this week for $350. Probably would be a good emulator handheld for things like PS3 which don't do well on current retro machines.
 
Yeah, looking forward to see how the new version reviews. Hoping the amount of progress Intel has made with their desktop GPU drivers will help their portable offerings.

I haven't really followed the current Claw, but am curious to see how the hardware performs now, after the drivers and system software have (hopefully) matured. I remember the Ally wasn't great at launch, but ASUS worked hard on improving it.
 
Any chance these new models have VRR or native landscape screens? I know I'm asking a lot.
 
kirbyrj said:
I saw them blowing out the lower spec Claw this week for $350. Probably would be a good emulator handheld for things like PS3 which don't do well on current retro machines.
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Some PS3 games work fine on the steam deck. I'm looking forward to that AMD HX370 rig in a handheld to try some of the ones that don't work well on the steam deck.
 
Wade88 said:
Some PS3 games work fine on the steam deck. I'm looking forward to that AMD HX370 rig in a handheld to try some of the ones that don't work well on the steam deck.
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It's only problem is the price is in the $1,000 range for those. AMD definitely wasn't shy about charging whatever they could for them.
 
kirbyrj said:
It's only problem is the price is in the $1,000 range for those. AMD definitely wasn't shy about charging whatever they could for them.
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It has a warranty though and to fix a real backwards compatible ps3 properly is almost $1000 too but has a way slower turnaround time as well. I've wanted AMD to sell something with a double digit number of rdna 3.5 like the 890m into an amalgamation like the hx370.
 
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If only they would put touchpads on these things. It's one of the things on the Steamdeck I thought I wouldn't use, but actually use all of the time. I now could not even consider one of these without at least one.
 
Gorankar said:
If only they would put touchpads on these things. It's one of the things on the Steamdeck I thought I wouldn't use, but actually use all of the time. I now could not even consider one of these without at least one.
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Yeah, that's what I miss the most from my Steam Deck - I didn't really use them for direct control in games (except for Dynomite), but they were definitely handy for interface stuff. Also, some of the context menus created for the pads using Steam Input (or whatever it's called) is pretty cool.
 
  • Claw 2 with Lunar Lake gives from 2 to 12 hours for gaming
  • Beats prev gen AMD RoG ally X handily in low power (10w) mode by upto 75%
  • Trades blows with current gen RDNA 3.5 based strix point
  • Has frame capped auto-tdp modes (endurance gaming mode):
    • Efficiency — 30fps cap
    • Balanced — 40fps cap
    • Performance — 60fps cap


View: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aOSVpeSwZAA
 
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