MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GAMING X TRIO Picture Leaks

[LBJM]

Not the TI box says 8GB. The TI one looks like a shop of the other one.

 

[N4CR]

As always, it comes down to that one universal truth: framerate is king.

2015 called, I guess you run cfx/sli for all those sick frame rate benches?
Frame time is far more important than fps, especially with VRR tech these days.

 

[N4CR]

It seems like NV is going straight for the jugular with a Ti launch card, hit AMD hard while they're limping along in the GPU space to lock down a little more market.

You realize Tis are a few percent of the market at best? This is just about branding and justifying a price hike.
I predicted they'd launch the Ti out the gate because of all the sweet launch tax gouging that could be had.
Then they'll possibly release what used to be called the Ti next year and you suckers will pay 1200 for it. Now the Titan will be even more. Have fun!

 

[Nightfire]

Yep, they will launch a Titan V Black next year that is 'fully unlocked'. Those that buy the 2080ti this year will gladly take a bath on selling their card for 15% more performance.

Why sell one flagship card each gen when you can sell 2?

 

[IdiotInCharge]

Yep, you need that 8gb of vRam for that 'shadow cache' lol.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pag..._graphics_performance_benchmark_review,9.html

Sounds like a problem that ray-tracing can solve...

 

[KamelRed]

Yep, they will launch a Titan V Black next year that is 'fully unlocked'. Those that buy the 2080ti this year will gladly take a bath on selling their card for 15% more performance.

Why sell one flagship card each gen when you can sell 2?

 

[Derangel]

Yep, they will launch a Titan V Black next year that is 'fully unlocked'. Those that buy the 2080ti this year will gladly take a bath on selling their card for 15% more performance.

Why sell one flagship card each gen when you can sell 2?

And if they're happy with that extra performance, good for them. I don't understand why people have such a fascination with what other people do with their own money.

 

[Brahmzy]

And if they're happy with that extra performance, good for them. I don't understand why people have such a fascination with what other people do with their own money.

Amen brother! It’s very amusing watching the uproar and gnashing of teeth when people think somebody isn’t spending money the way somebody else thinks they should.
The whole 8086K and Optane discussions were / are hilarious. I think anobody who buys a Titan card is silly, but I’m not going to tell them that, or that I somehow know how to spend their money for them in a better way. If they want a Titan card, go get a Titan card and enjoy! We’re all buying equipment that is obsolete before we put it in our shopping carts. So giving advice, or being jealous or mad or whatever makes zero sense. The whole “go be poor somewhere else” applies here, in addition to the “a fool and his money...”.
There’s a wide range of budgets, expectations, quality/experience thresholds and opinions here. A lot of folks seem to think they need to control all of that for everybody.

 

[WorldExclusive]

For Kyle to be posting this, Nvidia has really gave them the boot.
Ah who cares, Kyle will source one, maybe from PCPer and we'll get a solid review.

Also maybe the yields were low on the Titan V, they don't want to have the extra chips sitting around for another year so release them now.
If it's really Ti performance, I'm in for one.

 

[DooKey]

Yep, they will launch a Titan V Black next year that is 'fully unlocked'. Those that buy the 2080ti this year will gladly take a bath on selling their card for 15% more performance.

Why sell one flagship card each gen when you can sell 2?

Indeed, why not? The market has spoken and it likes this strategy. If you don't, then that's your problem, not NVIDIA's.

 

[DPI]

2015 called, I guess you run cfx/sli for all those sick frame rate benches?
Frame time is far more important than fps, especially with VRR tech these days.

There's some selective reading. Among us nerds and VR enthusiasts, frametime is absolutely the magic metric. But most GPU buyers don't have a clue what frametime is. Thus frame rate is still the most universally understood marketing and buying decision metric.FWIW, framerate / frametime aren't mutually exclusive anyway. In Nvidia's case they pretty much scaled hand in hand - 1080Ti for example had lowest frametimes for VR in Kyle's shootout.

My point was simply that all the noise and juvenile flailing over the past few months about GPP this and NDA that, and grand proclamations of "never buying Nvidia again!" mean little when Nvidia puts out new cards and once again destroy all benchmarks.

Want to know a sad corollary truth? Had an AMD Vega shown 50% lower frametimes across the board while being only 5% slower FPS than a 1080 Ti, it wouldn't have mattered to most buyers.

 

[heatlesssun]

Well there's some weird selective reading. I'm sure I mentioned SLI somewhere..? The point was all the noise and fanboy bickering about GPPs and NDAs and grand proclamations about "never again Nvidia!" mean fuckall when Nvidia puts out new cards and destroy all benchmarks yet again. And that's where Buy decisions get made.

Sure GPP was a stupid mistake. But performance is what sells hardware.

 

[kimura14]

SLI is officially dead? Finally? Where's my Doom on Vulkan mGPU?

By the way, when can we have smaller and slimmer graphics card? Storage drive has gone from 3.5" to the sexy M.2.

Don't know if it will mean anything for the future, but SLI is a supported technology over nvlink on the Quadro GV100.

 

[Nightfire]

And if they're happy with that extra performance, good for them. I don't understand why people have such a fascination with what other people do with their own money.

I am simply highlighting the smarter strategy. When they release the ti models so late, most if those buyers will want to wait longer for the next gen. If they release the ti models at launch, those buyers are more likely to buy a 'black' model the following year, especially now that the generation cycles are farther apart.

 

[_l_]

By the way, when can we have smaller and slimmer graphics card? Storage drive has gone from 3.5" to the sexy M.2.

how they gonna cool it?

That's one ugly ass Graphics Card.

just one of the reasons I buy EVGA

Somehow I really don't care about these.

might be a lot of folks thinking the same way. IMO Two years of no gaming GPU's available or way overpriced New and Used cards all but killed things for the PC enthusiast. Add that to super boring new game releases and we have the reason for Nvidia's Gamescom in a few days and why the Ti will be released one year ahead of time

 

[Elios]

There's some selective reading. Among us nerds and VR enthusiasts, frametime is absolutely the magic metric. But most GPU buyers don't have a clue what frametime is. Thus frame rate is still the most universally understood marketing and buying decision metric.FWIW, framerate / frametime aren't mutually exclusive anyway. In Nvidia's case they pretty much scaled hand in hand - 1080Ti for example had lowest frametimes for VR in Kyle's shootout.

My point was simply that all the noise and juvenile flailing over the past few months about GPP this and NDA that, and grand proclamations of "never buying Nvidia again!" mean little when Nvidia puts out new cards and once again destroy all benchmarks.

Want to know a sad corollary truth? Had an AMD Vega shown 50% lower frametimes across the board while being only 5% slower FPS than a 1080 Ti, it wouldn't have mattered to most buyers.

new cards are using NVLink which should help a ton with frame time will have to see how it goes

 

[Skylinestar]

As for card sizes - the only reason cards are dual slot is the amount of heat they need to dissipate via air cooling. Most water cooled cards are single slot.

how they gonna cool it?

I know most people don't care about heat output. Remember how tiny that fan is on the RivaTNT2? While having great processing power is important, I don't want the next generation of card to require a tank of N2 next to it for cooling either. Imagine all future computers will have a tiny N2 tank in the casings. See what happen to the intel 28-core 5GHz show.

 

[_l_]

See what happen to the intel 28-core 5GHz show.
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Personally, I wouldn't mind that cooler for the Intel CPU as long as they threw it in Free with the CPU purchase

 

[phorkz]

Finally time to replace my old Titan X Maxwell. I fear my 3770k @4.5ghz will be bottle-necking a 2080ti though, if that happens i will have to go the whole hog upgrade(cpu/mobo/ram). RIP wallet.