MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti GAMING TITANIUM Review @ [H]

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  1. Snowdensjacket

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    How's the noise? The hard review was fifty fifty with Brent not enjoying the loud blower but Kyle said it was fine. That's what I'm worried about as I want a fairly silent pc for my bedroom
     
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    If you undervolt and tweak the fan curve it's not a problem.
     
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  3. HockeyJon

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    I do agree with you in principle, for sure. I still think Freesync2 will come in at a lower price point though, it’s just a much simpler system. Too bad Nvidia can’t concede defeat on that one and just go with the easy standard. Yes, so,e people argue GSync is better, and it probably is, just the question is how noticeable is the difference, and even the folks on Hard that have tested it don’t seem to indicate GSync is worth the difference over Freesync.
     
  4. funkydmunky

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    Way to change the goal posts. This review isn't about the 1080ti, but the 1070ti, and AMD's direct competitor to it is +5W @ full load, and lower W @ idle.
    Did you take any time to read the "H" article or you just slinging shit?
     
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    I'm inclined to agree that FreeSync2 may be cheaper; the challenge is that FreeSync2 requires stuff that has made G-Sync more expensive, namely hardware buffers on the monitor and certification to prevent the rampant halfassery we've seen with many low-end (and high-end!) FreeSync monitors due to lack of standardization.

    If FreeSync2 is cheaper, it'll likely be due to economy of scale more than lower bill of materials.


    [as for the advantages of G-Sync, they're slimmer when comparing the best FreeSync monitors, but there's still a measurable input lag advantage for G-Sync in the first implementations, so we'll see what places like TFT-Central have to say about the second round :) ]
     
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    Ah, yes, quite right on that. Well, I’d at least like some standardization on the monitor end so I could buy whatever cars I want lol. I’ve literally alternated between the two companies since like 2000, I just buy whatever is leading price/performance in the class I want at the time I buy. Having a proprietary monitor technology is the absolute worst thing for the market, at least in my view.
     
  7. IdiotInCharge

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    Well, Nvidia solved the whole problem with G-Sync before AMD even had a demo to put on display- I get that it'd be nice to not have to worry about it, but I also understand where Nvidia is coming from. Their technology (well, implementation, both are extensions of a DP protocol designed to save battery power on laptops), is more involved because that's what was needed.

    Round two is where AMD is stepping up with FreeSync for HDR, and the HDMI implementation goes live. I'm expecting Nvidia to support HDMI VRR, and that will probably be that, all things considered.
     
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    As Trump would say "Wrong". A fully OVERCLOCKED 1070Ti uses 5W less than a STOCK Vega 56.
     
  9. Hakaba

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    Hmmm... Might want to re read that chart there... The OC’d TI is within 5w of Vega 56, and yes it does idle less than the OC’d TI... Also unless I misread the info the TI in stock or OC’d form still beat Vega 56 while using less power, though not much less.

    Still Vega offers good gaming for its value.
     
  10. c3k

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    Thanks for the review.
     
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    It looks like anything under 4k pretty much puts the v64, 1080, 1070ti, 1070, and v56 in almost identical performance brackets. The difference from the lowest to the highest is almost unnoticeable in all these scenarios. 80fps? 90fps? 100fps? does it really make a difference for an extra hundred or more?

    I know there's room in the market for more tiers of cards and I'm happy when performance comes down in price (even though it always seems like it takes too long), but realistically there are other factors such as form and sound/cooling that would almost take precedent over the performance difference of the lowest to highest card in this spectrum/bracket.
     
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    I say this should have never been released. its just marketing bs.

    You can say it put the death nail in the v56, and I will agree but so does the 1080. This is a cheaper 1080 and not a sooped up 1070

    Where are the next generation cards. Screw all this old crap.

    Don't worry AMD fan boys they will have a new card real soon. 2020 probably, and it will beat the 1080ti
     
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    He was a bit harsh in his reply, maybe just blunt, but I think I understand what he was saying. His first statement was it wasn't fair "comparing stock FPSes vs OC results."

    Then in your second sentence you misrepresented what he said, imo, when you say "I thought you said the 1080 was an unfair comparison." That isn't what he said, and you say he's contradicting himself based on that misreading.

    Basically, I think you both should just slow down a little so you can understand what the other person was saying. :) He was saying he didn't think it was "fair" (not the word I would use, but he did) to compare the overclocked 1070 Ti results against FE stock 1080 results. And I do think he has something of a point, if you're just looking at which card is absolutely fastest, but at the same time that shouldn't really be much of a surprise, the 1080 costs more and has better specs. But I say he may have a point because if someone who isn't familiar with how well the 1080s OCs sees the comparison, they could easily come away with the impression that the 1070 Ti is hands down faster than a 1080. That's where he arguably has a point, that's all I wanted to hopefully clarify. :)
     
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    Thanks for the review [H], good stuff as alwasy!

    All this talk about it being unfair to compare the OC'd subject card to a non-OC competitor, some are making it sound like OC vs OC and/or a current generation round up reviews aren't going to happen and this is all you have to go off of. You can extrapolate where the OC's of the other cards land, cross reference other [H] reviews, etc., and get a pretty damn good idea how this current line of cards stacks up.

    Just gotta take this review for what it was; an interesting read. After all, it is the first 1070Ti review I've seen on here, and I'm sure there's more to come. Just gotta be patient :D