MPAA Sues Hotfile, Battle for Cloud Begins

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The MPAA has launched an attack on the cloud. I know that doesn't really make sense but it helps if you listen to this while you read the article.

"In less than two years, Hotfile has become one of the 100 most trafficked sites in the world," the MPAA said in a press release issued today. "That is a direct result of the massive digital theft that Hotfile promotes."
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They'll lose. Hotfile has a no piracy allowed use agreement you have to accept and they have plenty of evidence that shows they actively remove copyrighted material.
 
Didn't they tried to pull this crap with rapidshare and lost? I don't see them winning this one either.
 
How long should it take a site to ascend like that? Four years?

MPAA, just set up your own site with $5 new movies and $2 oldies, full .mp4 files or whatever. Or a monthly fee comparable to HF premium. Compete.

Clueless people and wireless users will buy discs.
 
singe_101 said:
How long should it take a site to ascend like that? Four years?

MPAA, just set up your own site with $5 new movies and $2 oldies, full .mp4 files or whatever. Or a monthly fee comparable to HF premium. Compete.

Clueless people and wireless users will buy discs.
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NO. Everyone must buy discs and attempt to be clueless.
 
CONFORM!!! DO IT NOW!!! PUT THE COOKIE DOWN AND BY MY DVD!!!!
 
I dunno about you, but we need Sony's lawyers in on this. I mean we're just TALKING about it, it HAS to be a crime somewhere now right :)
 
Wondering how much piracy will increase when the movie industry increases Netfix and Redbox's cost and it's passed onto their subscribers.
 
this is awesome. 99% of the shit on hotfile is pirated. Their whole business is based on allowing people to download warez'd media.

You can't search for anything directly on hotfile. But every pirate who wants a little commission uses it to share pirated shit. That's the beauty of file storage sites like hotfile, rapidshare, megashares, megaupload, fileserve, etc etc.

Yes, hotfile does actively remove copyrighted material if reported. But they turn a blind eye if not reported.
 
dr.kevin said:
Yes, hotfile does actively remove copyrighted material if reported. But they turn a blind eye if not reported.
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I don't know if you can call it turning a blind eye if they simply don't have the resources (or desire) to check every single file that goes through their systems. I mean next they'll sue Google if .. oh wait they already tried...lost... and are still icing their ++++++++s.
 
Never heard of Hotfile. But since it's so popular it must be worth checking out! Thx MPAA!
 
sfsuphysics said:
I don't know if you can call it turning a blind eye if they simply don't have the resources (or desire) to check every single file that goes through their systems.
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I believe we already have a legal precedent re that issue (kindasorta) here in the U.S.

Posted 02 December 2010 09:23am

Should eBay be liable for trademark infringement when its vendors offer counterfeit goods for sale? Famous jeweler Tiffany & Co. has been arguing since 2004 that it should.

The case finally reached the Supreme Court, which rejected Tiffany & Co.'s appear on Monday. That leaves a lower court ruling, which went in eBay's favor, as the final word on the matter in the United States.
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http://econsultancy.com/us/blog/6917-supreme-court-ebay-not-liable-for-counterfeit-goods
 
On payday I'm buying another year for my Hotfile account. Enough said.
 
The problem is there is a HUGE list of file sharing services out there and when one caves or falls, every other one is ready to pick up the slack. Rapidshare fell to the waist side when they got rid of their rewards program which is the driving force behind all of these sites and now hotfile is on their radar but it won't matter in the end.

Honestly though, I would think its a safe bet that 98%+ of all the material hosted on these sites is porn, movies, games, and mp3's.
 
This is not an attack on "the cloud". This is an attack on the promotion of storing illegal content in the cloud. I'm sure the cloud is going to weather this sprinkly storm.
 
Major_A said:
On payday I'm buying another year for my Hotfile account. Enough said.
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Funny how people will pay for pirated stuff. Maybe it's because they get their money's worth and don't get bashed repeatedly over the head with draconian Digital Restrictions Management schemes. Not saying you're buying the subscription to downloaded pirated stuff. I'm sure you use it for sharing your own personal files with friends and family.

Normal companies compete by offering good products at reasonable prices. If the products don't sell, they either improve them or lower the prices. Record labels, movie studios and to a lesser degree, software publishers, think they can freeze time and prevent new markets from emerging simply by suing everybody.
 
nutzo said:
Wondering how much piracy will increase when the movie industry increases Netfix and Redbox's cost and it's passed onto their subscribers.
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That's the funny thing about MPAA
They blame bit torrent, rapidshare, etc etc, and at the same time, they demands more money and strive to make its customer pays more.

They them self are the real reason why people pirates their materials. They are trying to kill the more practical ways for people to watch those movies and shows legally and forces everyone to pay ridiculous amount of money.
 
++++s, absolute ++++s.
Again this will fall through and they'll sit their bitching for another year and try someone else again.
 
It's not MPAA, but close enough. They even sued PayPal over this LOL

"On 6th January 2011, US Media conglomerate Liberty Media Corproration filed suit against Hotfile, Paypal and 1,000 Hotfile 'John Doe' account holders. Liberty Media's case states that; the defendants “jointly and severally, with actual or constructive knowledge of or with willful blindness, reproduced and distributed certain LIBERTY-owned works through www.Hotfile.com.”.

http://torrentfreak.com/hotfile-1000-users-and-paypal-named-in-piracy-lawsuit-110118/
 
sfsuphysics said:
I don't know if you can call it turning a blind eye if they simply don't have the resources (or desire) to check every single file that goes through their systems. I mean next they'll sue Google if .. oh wait they already tried...lost... and are still icing their ++++++++s.
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it can be the same as trying to sue Sony over the VCR

it's intended use is not piracy, but file sharing, BUT, we have seen torrent sites shut down who tried to claim the same thing who were mostly all piracy.
 
JimmiG said:
Funny how people will pay for pirated stuff. Maybe it's because they get their money's worth and don't get bashed repeatedly over the head with draconian Digital Restrictions Management schemes. Not saying you're buying the subscription to downloaded pirated stuff. I'm sure you use it for sharing your own personal files with friends and family.

Normal companies compete by offering good products at reasonable prices. If the products don't sell, they either improve them or lower the prices. Record labels, movie studios and to a lesser degree, software publishers, think they can freeze time and prevent new markets from emerging simply by suing everybody.
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Share stuff with family and friends all the time. Photos, home movies, etc... A few times in a pinch I had to upload work files to Hotfile and downloaded them when I got home. Believe it or not there are a lot of legitimate reasons to have a file hosting website.

What's the saying about the bad apple?
 
Hornet said:
That's the funny thing about MPAA
They blame bit torrent, rapidshare, etc etc, and at the same time, they demands more money and strive to make its customer pays more.
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It's a concept I like to call "Moving the mountain for the trees". They'd rather change everyone else in the world than change how they do business.
 
Major_A said:
a file hosting website.
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No no no. Even though they have existed since the beginning of the internet, it's now called "the cloud." Eventually it will be called the virtual cloud, then possibly the social cloud or maybe virtual social cloud. Get your buzzwords in order damnit. Almost forgot iCloud. "file hosting" is so 1990's.
 
Hornet said:
That's the funny thing about MPAA
They blame bit torrent, rapidshare, etc etc, and at the same time, they demands more money and strive to make its customer pays more.

They them self are the real reason why people pirates their materials. They are trying to kill the more practical ways for people to watch those movies and shows legally and forces everyone to pay ridiculous amount of money.
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*cough*Gollum*cough* ;)
Sorry but that's the voice I heard "reading" that. lol

/on topic: You hit the nail on the head. Pricing is everything. Marketing method is a damn strong second though.
 
dr.kevin said:
this is awesome. 99% of the shit on hotfile is pirated. Their whole business is based on allowing people to download warez'd media.

You can't search for anything directly on hotfile. But every pirate who wants a little commission uses it to share pirated shit. That's the beauty of file storage sites like hotfile, rapidshare, megashares, megaupload, fileserve, etc etc.

Yes, hotfile does actively remove copyrighted material if reported. But they turn a blind eye if not reported.
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You're comment is more pathetic than MPAA's frivolous lawsuit. :rolleyes:
 
dr.kevin said:
this is awesome. 99% of the shit on hotfile is pirated. Their whole business is based on allowing people to download warez'd media.

You can't search for anything directly on hotfile. But every pirate who wants a little commission uses it to share pirated shit. That's the beauty of file storage sites like hotfile, rapidshare, megashares, megaupload, fileserve, etc etc.

Yes, hotfile does actively remove copyrighted material if reported. But they turn a blind eye if not reported.
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Your comment is more pathetic than MPAA's frivolous lawsuit. :rolleyes:
 
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