Most Parents Believe Games Contribute To Real Violence

[Outamyhead]

And Jim Quisition's latest video proves a point, if you don't have an adverse reaction to Mr Dwyer blowing his brains out on live TV (the footage is out there, besides in Jim's latest video), then you cannot tell the difference between video game violence, and actual violence (and there is something seriously wrong with you).

Parents need to be educated, and they may also need to be trained on how to say "no" to their kids.

 

[dremic]

1. Copying my post.

2. Violence never existed before media of any kind? Wow, never knew that!

3. Next!

i like how little logic you use in your argument.

did i ever say television, movies and video games created violence? no.. your illiteracy has made you look stupid again.

i said it influences you in many ways, especially at a young age and seeing movies can have a negative influence on you thats just common sense.


is GTA 3 or Training day the reason for the columbine shooting? probably not dude. but to say that type of entertainment had no contribution is just stupid

 

[weebling1]

Should poll these same parents, ask them if The Beatles, The Who and The Rolling should be banned in general, because it was music back then that kids liked and adults hated and adults said that was poisoning youths souls.

You forgot Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, and *gasp* Chuck Berry, ad infinatum to ad nauseum.

 

[ballistic90]

I'd like to know what anti-break-in reinforcements are either safer, or more reliable, than most handguns and long guns. The most popular firearms are popular specifically because they're reliable. Glock enthusiasts, for example, have done everything from dropping their pistols from planes, encasing them in ice for six months, burying them in sand and mud, running over it with a tank, etc. After dusting them off and racking slide a couple of times, they still fire, and fire accurately. You know how many people own rifles or shotguns that are a century old or more, and they still are in perfect working order? How many other kinds of technology are still useful after that long a timespan? Not too many.

It's actually not too hard to reinforce your house to keep people from breaking into your house. Every window in my house is double paned and too far off the ground to be used as an entry point. I have a "dumb" security system (all those monthly plan systems do is call your state police, which aren't going to do shit to help you) that, 30 seconds after the front door opens, sounds an extremely loud blaring noise. Even when you're inside the front door, you're still just on my front porch. If you stole anything from there, you'd basically be taking my garbage out for me.

At that point you'd have to get through some heavy french doors that have heavy bolts that I lock every night, and a wedge device that sounds yet another, unique alarm when pressure is pressed against it. Also, I keep nothing of value on the first floor. The back door has even more locks and is rather well reinforced. Finally, anything of value is on the second or third floor of my house, away from the windows so the house is considerably less likely of a theft target than the idiots next door that have a big screen TV right near the front of the house.

Also, my bedroom is on the third floor, behind a heavy thick door that people believe is our linen closet for some reason. We bolt that shit closed every night. The only things we've considered for further protection would be a dog and a machete. You can buy a machete with a 2 foot long blade from home depot for like $30, and those things are pretty damn intimidating.

Despite what you might think, the first goal is to discourage people from robbing your house, and if they break in anyways your goal should be survival, not to kill the intruder. Killing an intruder is a secondary objective only if it does not put you at risk of your own survival. Anything that is not my own life or that of my wife's is replaceable. That's why I have insurance.

 

[ballistic90]

Parents need to be educated, and they may also need to be trained on how to say "no" to their kids.

I'm sorry, but something about the way you worded that just made me laugh:

"Hey dad, can I take the gun and go shoot up my school?"

"Well sport, I'd really rather you didn't, but I could never say 'no' to you!"

Yes, that would definitely be something to be addressed.

 

[Geforcepat]

Most parents are stupid.

Yep!

 

[McFry]

The potential that I may be armed serves this purpose, just as the potential they may not be able to break your french doors supposedly does.

and if they break in anyways your goal should be survival, not to kill the intruder.

How do you discern the difference between the two? Do I ask the person who was willing to break the law, smash down my door, try to take something that doesnt belong to him, and willing to risk encounter me inside (potentially armed), and assume that he has not considered all of the above and is pursuing hostile action?

The way I see it, if someone has gone to these lengths to enter my home, it is only logical to assume he is also prepared and willing to harm me.

 

[dremic]

The potential that I may be armed serves this purpose, just as the potential they may not be able to break your french doors supposedly does.

How do you discern the difference between the two? Do I ask the person who was willing to break the law, smash down my door, try to take something that doesnt belong to him, and willing to risk encounter me inside (potentially armed), and assume that he has not considered all of the above and is pursuing hostile action?

The way I see it, if someone has gone to these lengths to enter my home, it is only logical to assume he is also prepared and willing to harm me.

this.

 

[Stiletto]

Also, my bedroom is on the third floor, behind a heavy thick door that people believe is our linen closet for some reason. We bolt that shit closed every night.

You bolt your bedroom door closed every night, but you've ruled out owning a firearm? Uh...

 

[dr.kevin]

Those same parents are watching shit like NCIS, CSI, where someone is shot or killed every episode.

hypocrites.

 

[MasonD]

Why am i even responding to an obvious troll

i like how little logic you use in your argument.

Funny, you should reread your first post to me. Your whole case is an insult with a weak point added in. Lol.

did i ever say television, movies and video games created violence? no.. your illiteracy has made you look stupid again. i said it influences you in many ways, especially at a young age and seeing movies can have a negative influence on you thats just common sense.

First off, only someone with no good point would repeatedly insult someone. Way to take the high road kid, yet you question my intelligence. Moving on, influences you in what? You're saying it doesn't create violence yourself but then state it influences you. In critical thinking? If it doesn't create it, which, you admit, so? Does my fap sessions make me a rapist? Does watching UFC make me more inclined to punch someone like you in the face IRL? Of course not, that's stupid-head talk. Kid shit, smart humans make the right choices while the degenerates have/give/get/use every excuse in the book of life making the wrong choices. You ever stop insulting someone long enough to think maybe, just maybe, some Homo Sapiens are just organically bad people regardless? Bad apples so to speak. No, that would be crazy-head talk! Whether or not you accept religion OR the bible I believe that is exactly the point of the Cain & Abel story (moral of the story) from thousands of years ago. Some people are just bad apples, REGARDLESS OR WHAT THEY VISUALIZE.

is GTA 3 or Training day the reason for the columbine shooting? probably not dude. but to say that type of entertainment had no contribution is just stupid

To say it though is even stupider. Homo Sapiens have been killing each other for 50,000 years...you stupid-head! To say they need a movie or video game to influence that instinctual fight (revenge) or flight (let it go) behavior is just straight up no depth stupid-head talk.

I instinctually thought about punching someone in the face long before I watched anything violent on anything. However I wasn't a mental case & I absorbed my parents teachings that violence was wrong for any reason other than for self protection. I stand by it today stupid-head, while you look for excuses for human behavior, AKA animal behavior. A man can stand there and say whatever hurtful things to me he wants, it just falls away, but touch me, well, touch me & I'll show you self preservation at its finest.

This is a (mentally fucked up) human being problem, not a video game/movie problem. Also known as mental health issue.

Stupid-head!

 

[MasonD]

i said it influences you in many ways, especially at a young age and seeing movies can have a negative influence on you thats just common sense.

Right back to good parenting and mental health. Good parenting is common sense. Did your mother let you watch violent stuff at a young age? If so, horrible mother.

 

[SS_Wehrwolf]

They believe it simply because these are the same ignorant and useless parents who give their 12 year old $100, drop them off at the mall with 3 other 12 yr olds.. who decide to buy grand theft auto 3...while they are off gallavanting around at a fucking wine tasting after they finally got rid of the little shit they are responsible for...after they shot the kid up with RITLIN or some other psychotic drug because, well, he's a kid....and kids shouldnt act like fucking kids...

Meanwhile, back in reality, the parents are not arrested for fucking breeding and degrading the whole of human society with their stupidity...

Next up, how Santa Claus's gift of a kitten lead to Adolf Hitler's rise to power and manipulation of millions.

You just cannot make this shit up, except, well, when you can...

 

[Dekoth-E-]

You mean guns vs 1st amendment, cause that's what we're talking about. The right to be able shot varmints and stop signs vs free speech?

What are you doing to do with a gun anyway? Hunting? Protecting your property? You can't ever use the weapon without going to jail, not unless the person you're going to fire at also has a gun.

So at this point the only reason to own a gun is to give nut jobs easy access to genocide.

I'd rather invest in anti-break-in reinforcements than a gun, safer, and more reliable.

2nd amendment specifically points at owning guns, where are first is a lot more broader. Which sounds better, freedom of speech vs bear arms, or 1st vs 2nd amendment?

No no, lets make it sound stupid and make it video games vs guns.

The only reason this idiocy even works so far cause majority of Americans don't bear arms. I'd hate to see how everyone goes about their day if everyone did have a gun on them.


Her best defense is a firearm? Seriously? There are no substitutes?

And this guy sees no problem accidentally shooting someone. All in the defensive of your family, even if the law disagrees with you.

Wow...Do we have a hall of shame on this board for the most monumentally stupid posts of all time? If not these three posts should start them.

I will address 2 points.

1) How would everyone go about their day if everyone was carrying a gun. The same as they do now. Sorry I hate to inform the fear mongers but not every gun owner is a psychopath looking for a place to shoot up.

2) Alternative means of self defense on the above example. Tasers aren't always effective nor is mace/pepper spray. This has been proven over and over and over that some violent offenders are not deterred in the least by that.

The real problem is that most women tend to carry a gun that is utterly pointless. They carry some micro gun or a 22 or some other worthless pop cap gun that has little chance of doing anything when they need to be carrying something like a .45 where a single shot Will put nearly any attacker instantly on their ass instead of just pissing them off.

 

[FndTheRver]

This is just so sad. How can 75% of the parents surveyed actually believe video games contribute to real world violence? You can download the PDF here.

baaaaaah

baaaaaah

Look at all those sheep.

If enough people said the earth was flat do you think we could get the 75% to believe it?

 

[Stiletto]

The real problem is that most women tend to carry a gun that is utterly pointless. They carry some micro gun or a 22 or some other worthless pop cap gun that has little chance of doing anything when they need to be carrying something like a .45 where a single shot Will put nearly any attacker instantly on their ass instead of just pissing them off.

Oh christ don't start a stopping power debate. We'll be here forever. Also I'll have to talk about 357SIG.

 

[pothb]

Right back to good parenting and mental health. Good parenting is common sense. Did your mother let you watch violent stuff at a young age? If so, horrible mother.

That seems like a horrible generalization right there. I watch violent videos when I was young. Hell, I played Diablo and Mortal Kombat when I was like 8 or 9. I haven't killed anyone, hell, I don't even find myself getting into fights unless the other side really force it.

Not to mention the first picture is pretty stupid. It should all be "Know your kid." rather than stupid generalizations that this is too much for them or what not.

 

[pothb]

If enough people said the earth was flat do you think we could get the 75% to believe it?

Yes..... and it's hard to really blame them unless they have another source to confirm otherwise. Not like any of us can saw we see that the world is round. (Playing devil's advocate)

 

[MasonD]

That seems like a horrible generalization right there. I watch violent videos when I was young. Hell, I played Diablo and Mortal Kombat when I was like 8 or 9. I haven't killed anyone, hell, I don't even find myself getting into fights unless the other side really force it.

Not to mention the first picture is pretty stupid. It should all be "Know your kid." rather than stupid generalizations that this is too much for them or what not.

You got a point there.