Most of AMD's Next-Gen Radeon Cards Rumored to Be Rebrands

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  1. MajorDomo

    MajorDomo [H]ard as it Gets

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    Our friends over at TweakTown are giving us an update on the on-going rumor of rebrands with the release of AMD’s Radeon 300 Series cards. The rumor news broke as early as February. Just a heads up for any of you planning on jumping on the next gen bandwagon release early.

     
  2. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    Agree 100% with #1 on that list. It's a great game but the pedestal that people put it on is downright outrageous sometimes.
     
  3. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    Edit: Gah! Don't know how I posted in this thread instead.
     
  4. Arbit3r

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    Only cards won't be rebadges of the 300 series will be same cards 200 series had, the highest end 390 series cards will be new, the rest will be.
     
  5. {NG}Fidel

    {NG}Fidel [H]ardness Supreme

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    So just more rumors?
    Why is this headline worthy?
     
  6. fixedmy7970

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    i didn't think hard forum could stoop this low and actually post nvidian pr.
     
  7. oROEchimaru

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    Geez back off hardocp... i love radeon but havnt seen a need to update my 7850 waiting on dx12
     
  8. Trimlock

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    Rumor posts on the front page ... :(
     
  9. Lord of Shadows

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    Who buys mid range cards anyway? I haven't upgraded in quite some time and would like a reason to do so
     
  10. amdgamer

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    The average gamer who needs value as part of the equation. Still has typically delivered very well in that segment.
     
  11. Maxx

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    Correct, the new cards will be the ones with HBM (which has low yields), which are the 390, 390X, and 395X2.
     
  12. westrock2000

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    Well I suppose it's still better then the NVidia 8800. Which went on to be the 9800. Which went on to be the GTS250.
     
  13. horse

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    290x master race fuck the government
     
  14. DedEmbryonicCe11

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    If the 380x is a brand new middle-upper tier with a great power/performance ratio I would definitely consider it. A rebadged 290x.. not so much.
     
  15. ROShay

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    AMD needs something to plug into each price-point. So, re-badge. If the older models are priced to sell, it's fine by me. I'm running a factory OC'd Pitcairn at the moment, and, as long in the tooth as that design is, I can still completely see it hanging around for one more cycle. Pretty much any video card has value, *if* it's being sold at the right price.

    Personally, as much as I'd like to see it, I also think it's probably unrealistic to expect an entirely new, top-to-bottom lineup, especially when the industry is mired at 28nm. And, AMD isn't exactly rolling in R&D dough, either.
     
  16. Udgnim

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    disappointed HardOCP hasn't reported the rumors of dual GPU R9 390, 20nm R9 390, R9 390 being slower than Titan X, R9 390 being faster than Titan X, 4GB max R9 390, 8GB max R9 390, R9 390 being released August, R9 390 with only DDR RAM
     
  17. TheGamerZ

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    Both NVIDIA and AMD are guilty of rebranding older cards for a new series. Hardly news.
     
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    Going to be a little strange if both the 380 and the 390 live inside the same power consumption space.
     
  19. MacLeod

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    Rebadge or not. Are these damn things coming out or what? Theyve been "rumored" to be coming out for about 4 months now. Hell when I bought my 290x back in early December I was being warned that the 300's were gonna be here before New Years. Guess they meant New Years 2016.
     
  20. Ducman69

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    Does it matter if its the same product with a new name and a higher price? I suppose it would just be nice for those in-the-know to buy the "old" obsolete stock at discount prices, when its really the same thing.

    I'm so glad I bought my watercooled 295x2 on that sale price months and months ago, as everyone was warning me "dude, 395x2 is gunna be comin out like the next week you buy this maaaan, you know", lol!

    Regarding my opinion on rebranding; I think its consumer fraud to be quite honest. If they want to call it a 290x V2 because its just a 290x with a slightly different reference cooler on it, fine, but I hate this deceptive crap that I see happening time and time again. It doesn't affect us, but it does all the noobs out there and its not fair to take advantage of people that don't keep up to date on all this. That said, when the 395x2 finally releases, I'm curious how insane the performance will be, considering my 295x2 runs silent and absolutely beast mode in framerates (albeit with some pretty high power draw and subsequent room heating going on).
     
  21. LordEC911

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    Wow... this rebranding Fud has really taken hold.
    Read between the lines and mash all the rumors together, a majority of them are pure clickbait.
     
  22. HockeyJon

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    DDR RAM.....made by Kentron!
     
  23. illli

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    rebadge isn't anything new in the low end and laptops.
     
  24. Arbit3r

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    nvidia only did it from 600 to 700 series. 900 series is a complete new chip. AMD is doing it from 7000 series to 200 series, straight up to 300.
     
  25. dgz

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    Both parties have been doing it to everything but the top end for quite some time now. It's hardly just the low end any more.
     
  26. daglesj

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    Thats the reason after years of buying Nvidia I switched over to AMD in late 2009. I just wanted some new tech (well a DX11 capable card) for once.

    Been AMD ever since but I only upgrade every 4-5 years now. Not like 12+ years ago when I upgraded CPU every 6 months and GPU every year.
     
  27. Zuul

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    oh noes..rebrands..what is the world coming to? I'm in the market for a couple of 290X's/295x2 so I should better hurry up BEFORE THOSE BASTARDS SLAP NEW STICKERS ON THEM!
     
  28. ManofGod

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    Do not really care one way or another. If they were to make inprovements across the board, that is all that really matters. Advancing technology at the high end eventually filters down to the lower end, just not as quick as it once did. I remember when this years high end became next years mid range but then again, it was pretty much DX 9 back then and nothing else.

    Since I do not have a 4k display and it will be a long while before I do, these new cards, whenever they come out, would not help me at all. I figure the end of 2016 before I upgrade my graphics card and by then, Zen will be out as well.
     
  29. Quix

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    This isn't too surprising, since there is no new manufacturing process there isn't any incentive to respin the mid-range silicon to save money and there aren't a bunch of new DirectX features to support.
     
  30. TheGamerZ

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    Well if you're going to take such a small sample size.

    What about the 8800GT -> 9800GT -> GTS250

    Or further back, the GeForce 4 MX400, MX420 and MX440 were based on the GeForce 2 architectures.
     
  31. tetris42

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    Wasn't the 500 series essentially the same architecture as the 400 series also?
     
  32. viscountalpha

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    I'm taking it with a grain of salt. It's nothing new. I just want them to FINALLY COME OUT!

    ffs.
     
  33. PRIME1

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    Print out a 380X sticker and put in on your 290X and you will have your upgrade. :D

    I think AMD bet the farm on 20nm and it bit them in the butt. Now they are scrambling to bring something to market. Even a hastily modified Hawaii chip and some rebranded old cards.

    At this point either buy a 970/980 or wait for Pascal.
     
  34. geok1ng

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    last financial report showed that AMD's discrete video cards operate at a loss at last quarter.
    And that was the last segment of AMd products that was still generating profit.
    So unless the next AMD cards have something to show in either performance or price, winter is coming for AMD.
     
  35. Deathroned

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    Guys stop fighting and arguing. As you guys know the r9 390, 390x and 395×2 will be new cards. The R9-380X will be full fat hawaii the card amd was supposed to release after 780Ti and Titan black but never bothered to release. the R9-380 will be 290x. But please take this with a truckload of salt as its my own prediction anyway.
     
  36. Arcygenical

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    If you're getting 290x performance on a more mature process, with hopefully less power leakage, as the 380, with a lower price point...

    What's the issue?
     
  37. PRIME1

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    Sounds like the 970.
     
  38. Ducman69

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    Why would you want a 980 when a 295x2 eats it for lunch at 4K and has factory watercooling, and if not running at least 3K, why even bother with a 980?

    980 SLI beats a 295x2, but that's two cards and more expensive and not waterkewl'ed.

    https://youtu.be/CZhC66yjROs?t=1m37s
     
  39. Red Falcon

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    Actually, it was the 8800GTX/Ultra -> 9800GTX -> 9800GTX+ -> GTS250
    The 9800GT was actually an 8800GT with all of the fan bugs fixed, but yes, they were essentially the same.

    Yeah, NVIDIA has no room to talk about rebadges.
     
  40. PRIME1

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    And how long ago was that? It seems AMD is only good at copying others mistakes.