Microsoft Just Wants IE6 to Die

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  1. MajorDomo

    MajorDomo [H]ard as it Gets

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    ”Just die, already” is the message Microsoft is conveying to all of those users who will just not upgrade to a new, safer version of Internet Explorer. That’s not directed at the users, just the browser version. :D Check out the world map indicating the countries of the world and their associated usage of IE6.
     
  2. THRESHIN

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  3. B2BigAl

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    As a web developer, I stopped supporting ie6 over a year ago. If you're dumb enough to still be running that antiquated piece of crap, then you can just deal with security problems and screwed up looking web sites. I'm not wasting my time completely rewriting forms and style sheets for one browser that should have died long ago.
     
  4. mord

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    "Forward-thinking, progressive Scandinavia leads the way, with all its nations reporting less than 2% share for IE6."

    The map shows .7% for Norway and Finland. Whats up with that? Is that where all the Opera users are? JK!

    The China one isn't to supprising. So many pirate XP installs in China. no patches.
     
  5. maddude

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    I wish my company would let IE6 die. Hell, even half the stuff on the intranet won't run on it! You click on a hyperlink on the internal page, and it opens up FF!
     
  6. mord

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    O, and - B2BigAl

    I agree so much. IE6 is such a pain when I have to do front end dev/design. Biggest reason I mainly do backend dev now. I had a major (for me) client whose target audiance still had over 35% usage of IE6 just last year... sigh. Of course they want those people to have the full "WEB 2.0 EXPERIANCE!"...
     
  7. kirtar

    kirtar Gawd

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    I don't think MS is the only one who wants IE6 to die. Just about any web development team probably wants it to diaf as well.
     
  8. Untitledone

    Untitledone [H]ard|DCer of the Month - April 2012

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    Haha, I was just thinking that it was because of pirated copies of XP, and maybe they are too scared to update in the chance that they will get caught.
     
  9. xxEIEIOxx

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    This is exactly why. People in other countries that can't afford to upgrade are still running corporate versions of XP and fear that updates will lock them out.
     
  10. niconx

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    Corporate versions of XP can't run Firefox, or Chome, or Opera, or Safari? :rolleyes:
     
  11. BigYoSpeck

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    I bet Microsoft severely regret ever creating IE6. They thought they could steam roll web standards and took a kicking for it. If they had not screwed it up so much and it had had the desired effect of locking us into Windows/IE for the web the internet would be such a different place. Luckily geeks are not a stoic bunch and so they didn't get away with it.

    It was probably single handedly the reason so many people jumped ship to Firefox and they've been left supporting the horrid mess of a browser ever since for every company not smart enough to steer clear.

    As far as poetic justice goes, killing your market share and being locked into supporting a failure for a decade, doesn't get much better.
     
  12. Filter

    Filter [H]ardForum Junkie

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    i dont understand how people are still using it.
     
  13. Untitledone

    Untitledone [H]ard|DCer of the Month - April 2012

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    I do not know about the computer knowledge the average chinese person has, especially in rural areas, but here even in California in rural areas and even in cities, many people do not know much about computers. My mom has been using computers for over 15 years (about as long as I have and I am only 21) and she still views it as a magical box that you turn on and it just works. Lets not even get to my dad who has never used a computer.
     
  14. bigdogchris

    bigdogchris [H]ard as it Gets

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    Well because a lot of people and businesses are still stuck on XP for some reason, IE6 still exist.
     
  15. DanNeely

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    The degree of historical ignorance implied by this sort fo comment is appalling. Prior to pulling the plug on the IE team after v6, IE was leading the way with the adoption of new standards and was head and shoulders above NS4.7 in both standards compliance and stability.

    The blunder that Redmond probably regrets most is assuming that IE's victory over the competition would be permanent and that they could safely disband the feature teams and only concentrate on IE6 security bug fixes.
     
  16. mr_zen256

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    Being a web developer, I'm used to creating sites with cross browser compatibility. It comes with the territory. Hell, there are a lot more obscure browsers out there than IE6 and in terms of compatibility with modern standards, IE6 is far from being the worst. Besides, I like a challenge :D
     
  17. BigYoSpeck

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    Yes it's lack of CSS 2 and PNG support in 2001 would be considered very forward thinking.

    And yes NS 4.7 was not a good browser, but in 2001 the Mozilla based Netscape 6 was available.

    http://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2011/022411-browser-ie6-netscape.html
     
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    I recently re-installed XP on my box (since I run linux for all non-game use, I feel no need to upgrade). After fighting through the usual idiocy, and firing up I.E. 6 to get my copy of firefox, it [essentially] said "I.E.6 SUCKS, CHANGE IT - USE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING!" and then prompted me to use i.e. 9 (or whatever it is), firefox, chrome, and maybe something else. I was shocked, and suspect that someone supporting webpages had too much and hacked MS's site.

    Anybody else hear about this?
     
  19. NAiLs

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    My current job had IE6 as the standard, up until about 5 months ago. It was quite pathetic to be honest, because every application that we used, was designed around IE6 also. They bitched if you upgraded to IE7 before it became a company standard. If you did, some of your main applications may not load properly, because the developers were not that bright it appears. We still use Windows XP as well, and will likely use it until end of life. Hell, we even just recently upgraded to dual core machines so we can actually do some work with our power hungry and bloated applications.
     
  20. AthlonXP

    AthlonXP [H]ard as it Gets

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    Its like XP, it just wont go away.
     
  21. Cbshahji

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    well i had recent visit to India (about three week ago) and i saw the technology is booming there but it's old technology, few friends still using windows 2000 and xp cause the upgread cost too much even from their standard.

    even though intel'ss got the factory right next to India (in Burma) the chip costs almost double of what it costs here.
     
  22. ICOM

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    lol ie
     
  23. kirtar

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    Yes, but IE6 is probably more widespread in the business world than any of the other obscure ones (at least a year or two ago in any case). When I was working on a web team, we only made a theme with IE6 compatibility because someone we work with only has access to IE6 at his office.
     
  24. Monkey34

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    THIS^^

    microsoft should just let them validate already, and make the web more secure for us all. Just a bunch of zombified un-patched rigs all over the place.
     
  25. Zarathustra[H]

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    Ourcorporate XP image at work still makes sure all users get IE6.

    I had to lean really hard on IT support to convince them to upgrade me to IE7. IE8 they apparently don't allow at all, because it's incompatible with the old-as-fuck intranet business web servers they run for various things.

    The corporate mantra still seems to be: "We'd rather expose ourselves to serious security holes than update our seriously obsolete business apps"...

    I've just started using the portableapps version of Chrome whenever I need to browse the outside web...
     
  26. GJSNeptune

    GJSNeptune [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Yes, please!

    But it'll be many more years before it dies. Businesses and government organizations don't want to spend the money to change.
     
  27. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    Users of Corporate XP usually don't have any admin rights whatsoever. Until I found out about portableapps I was stuck with the software I was given as well...
     
  28. BigYoSpeck

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    I don't think he means genuine corporate users I think it's more people with dodgy VLK versions of XP who won't go on Windows Update because it wouldn't pass WGA.

    If those people don't have the technical know how to bypass that then they likely wouldn't even know there was an alternative to IE.
     
  29. Dekoth-E-

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    I believe you meant to say "Just about any self respecting IT person wants IE6 to die".

    I also would like XP to just die already, I am beyond sick of supporting end users on that crappy os.
     
  30. Azhar

    Azhar Fixing stupid since 1972

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    Perhaps, but every version is better than the last one, and I think the biggest pile of IE shit is IE4, and even IE6 is a huge improvement over it. The culprit isn't IE6. It's Windows XP's unfortunate longevity. IE6 is the default browser for XP and a great deal of people are still using XP - home and corporations alike.
     
  31. Exavior

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    Not all corperate web based stuff will work on those. At my work we use many things that require IE to work due to them being designed to use ActiveX

    You in the UK? If so that is probably normal
     
  32. CanesVenetici

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    Take it you've never heard of autopatcher?

    So much faster than windows update anyway, I'd still be using it if they had 64 bit support.
     
  33. chrnochime

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    You make that sound like it's a bad thing :D

    Besides the chance of zombie pc doing DDoS on any random PC is pretty low
     
  34. dagas

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    There are old people still using computers from the 90's with Windows 95/98 and IE4/5 on them so I'm not surprised that people are still using IE6.
     
  35. loki7

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    Only 2.9% for U.S.? I still thought it was much higher. My faith in human kind (or America) has been restored!

    I guess I should stop putting so much effort into making my web pages IE6 compliant for local companies.
     
  36. MrGuvernment

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    too bad MS simply wont put out something that makes all; IE6 browsers stop working period.
     
  37. loki7

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    Also, lol at Japan/Korea's high usage of IE6. Would have thought the vastly superior bandwidth speeds they have would make them want better browsers. Or maybe it's the opposite? Maybe their superior speeds make them not realize how slow IE6 is.
     
  38. ChronoDetector

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    Internet Explorer 6 is by far the worst internet browser I have ever used. What bothers me before IE7 came out Microsoft never really bothered releasing frequent security fixes.

    But whatever, I switched to Firefox a long time ago.
     
  39. Nathan_P

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    ^^^This, my company is stuck in the dark ages, still on XP, still on IE6, still on 7 year old P4's with HT. Trouble is they won't upgrade any of the hardware so we are stuck with what we have. I'm just waiting for the 11 year old server to die - then they will have to do something.
     
  40. Nathan_P

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    I still use XP as i am awaiting fundage for another win 7 licence and my choice of main rig hardware to settle down, however I have junked IE6 in favour of IE8 and will probaly go to IE9 when its released