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This is a pretty dumb move. Even if they were seeing a lot of piracy, allowing your "foot soldiers" access to the software made a ton of sense.
I use AD, MS SQL, Exchange in my home lab, guess what I am going to recommend to customers? The loss from piracy would be made up several times over due to people being in your ecosystem.
There is also some merit to the argument that pirates often become evangelists for your product once they enter the workforce.
Microsoft's biggest threats are web apps. Microsoft is in big trouble once the app becomes detached from the OS. Someone at work showed be a web app called Prezi. It's basically a web based Powerpoint.
If you work in education, you can still get an MSDN sub for $180 that is the same level as TechNet pro.
Do you have any more info on this I can't seem to find anything but MSDNAA
Do you have any more info on this I can't seem to find anything but MSDNAA
most schools/colleges have EDU discounts or sometimes free MS software. there is also the DreamSpark program.
if you need it for work eval, then the company should cover the cost of MSDN.
those learning for certs/job skills, MS offers free 180-day trial versions of their server products
MS is also offering free TechNet Virtual Labs instead of TechNet subscriptions
if you're a fledgling small business, there is the BizSpark program
there's plenty of ways to get your "feet wet" for free, if you can't afford it.
DreamSpark is no where close to what Technet provides, and EDU discounts dont mean squat for Server and Enterprise products.
BizSpark has a ton of special requirements and is an application process, it also does not hit on the same uses of technet.
Tell me where else I can get long term install licenses for Server 2008, 2012, SharePoint (beyond foundation), Lync, Exchange, etc.
Wrong, I get the entire Microsoft catalog to download. This morning I downloaded MS Systems Manager along with Server 2012. I have a 5 key limit on my downloads, but I always use the same key because I usually rip apart the server after three months for new installs.
Just because you have a .EDU address, does not mean you can't navigate the system and gte what you need. You should always go thru a MS reseller to get MSDN, and not directly from the MS website, there are always better deals to be had.
Formfiller;1040026431 I wouldn't be surprised if this TechNet move is Microsoft's way to "payback" all those ungrateful users who rejected their newish products. An act of revenge and spite.[/QUOTE said:We all know that Microsoft, like any big company, can be stupid, but not that stoooppppiiiiidd. Balmer is an arrogant SOB, but he is not stupid. I'm sure they have their (obscure, make-no-sense) reasons, but not spite.
Just my 2 centavos.
M$ is probably pissed over the relatively small amount of Windows 8 keys that were claimed so far by TechNet subscribers.
i am sure they have numbers and stats to show how abused serial keys have been from technet, They likely have some numbers to back up a decision like this financially.
It sucks either way but they are providing other options... do you really need to trial something longer than 180 days? that's 6 months...need it longer? re-arm if it lets you, otherwise reinstall...
By Action pack you get technet with it.I'm pretty pissed that they're nuking this. I've become fairly dependent on TechNet for testing out MS products in order to keep myself up-to-date for my systems administrator job. MSDN costs too damn much for it to be effective. Trials don't cut it, especially when I'd rather not reconfigure everything for every new installation.
MS has lost it...
By Action pack you get technet with it.
By Action pack you get technet with it.
I'm pretty sure that the technet retirement is going to affect Action Pack as well. Action pack is going to be really weak without it though...only a couple copies of office/windows 7/8...
They haven't officially commented on how the technet shutdown will affect Action Pack, so it'll be interesting to see what they do. Hopefully they'll move it to MSDN as you say.
What's IUL?
When I had a custom CarPC in the past, I used normal hard drives without issue. But makes sense to me to use a SSD nowadays, if only for the quick boot.
Btw, www.mp3car.com used to be a great site for this kind of thing.
Probably had multiple tabs open and typed up the reply in the wrong thread.
The cloud is a tough sell. No matter what the advantages are, some people hate getting banged for a monthly nut every month.
Someone has to win partners away from Microsoft by allowing them to get a larger cut of the monthly cloud revenue. If email is $4 a month, then the partner gets $2 a user per month for the life of the service. Microsoft offers some ridiculous amount for Office 365.
It depends on if the value-add is worth it to the business. I know too many businesses that have opted for Office 365 because the value add of what they got vs. an infrastructure buildout came in much lower. It made sense and negated the need for an email admin (one less headcount). Business leaders dislike IT because it is historically a cost center they simply don't understand. Accounting is one that they do understand so they're more than happy to have accounting departments with 10x more heads than IT. Until IT becomes a huge value-add and you have IT leaders who can speak CxO language, you'll forever have the above kind of organization.
I'm pretty pissed that they're nuking this. I've become fairly dependent on TechNet for testing out MS products in order to keep myself up-to-date for my systems administrator job. MSDN costs too damn much for it to be effective. Trials don't cut it, especially when I'd rather not reconfigure everything for every new installation.
MS has lost it...