Micro Center CPU price reductions 2920X $299, 1950X $329, etc.

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  1. /dev/null

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    I don't know how new these are but these seem like great prices and all seem to come with $30 off a motherboard as well.
    I've picked out what I thought were the best deals...YMMV of course.

    Ryzen 5 2600x (6C/12T): $140
    I5-9400F (6C): $140
    Ryzen 7 2700 (8C/16T): $180
    Ryzen 7 2700x (8C/16T): $200
    I7-9700 (8C): $300
    I7-9700k(8C): $329
    Threadripper 2920x (12C/24T): $300 <-- perfect price scaling compared to 2700x!
    Threadripper 1950x (16C/32T): $329
    Threadripper 2950x (16C/32T): $600
     
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    Man, those are some really good prices. 16c/32t for $329?!?!
     
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    When you put it that way, that's the truth.
     
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    Intel is still going to fuk up AMD in single thread performance, I guess their new stuff is up to 18% - 20% faster single thread over their current CPU's ... which is amazing.

    BUT ... the cool thing here is that Intel will price their shit a lot more responsibly now ... about god damn time.

    Intel will win this fight ... they will just be a little late to the party.
     
  6. FlawleZ

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    Don't hold your breath guy. Zen 2 is will be walking into the party with a big stick. The real question is if you want the best performance possible with money as no option, will you be able to sleep at night if it's an AMD chip? Think about it for a while.
     
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  7. Archaea

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    Cheapest threadripper motherboard options:
    https://www.microcenter.com/endeca/...zdWx0cy5hc3B4P049MCZhbXA7TlRUPXgzOTkmcGFnZT0x

    I gotta admit I'm interested.

    I have a 6850K now, and I wouldn't lose much $ switching over, but I'm not sure it'd be much more than a lateral really, unless running VM's or video editing was my purpose (and they really aren't)... Gaming IPC on my 6850K at 4.3Ghz is faster than the 1950X, and I'm not really in a use case to use the extra cores --- but I man that task manager CPU view with 32 logical cores is the long time stuff of computer nerd dreams!
     
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    Yeah, you're probably right that you wouldn't feel any gain from a 1950x, and according to passmark probably even feel a slight hit:
    https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-2920X/2800vs3058vs3354

    At the same time, a 2920x setup should actually feel the same as your 6850k and still have 24 cores in the task manager. :D
     
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    That 2700x is tempting but I feel like I should wait to see how the 3xxx series is...
     
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    That comment came out of nowhere.

    Regardless, Intel is going to get its ass handed to it in multithreaded loads and I would not be surprised to see some Zen 2 chips sitting pretty close to margin of error with the 9th gen CPUs. I still expect Intel to come out ahead in light load scenarios but it should be a hell of a lot closer than before.

    Also, don’t expect big price drops from Intel. The rumored 10% is probably all they will do.
     
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    You're under the illusion people going for 32 thread cpu's are all gamers. Which couldn't be further from the truth. Their target audience It's professionals such as 3d rendering, AI, scientists, video editors, and the list goes on and on. Not to mention, even going head to head with multi-core Intel CPU's the price differential is so huge, it's lunacy to even suggest an Intel CPU at this point.

    You're talking about a fight Intel is already losing at mi hijo.
     
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    UR right. But fanbois gonna fanboi.

    True
     
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    As said above, hard to justify a replacement of my 6850k. Plus it always seems harder to offload HEDT systems used, their value vs the new products drops off so fast.
     
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    If I remember correctly, they claimed Ice Lake would be 18% better single thread than Skylake, not current gen. And a bunch of that was from clock speed improvement, not from IPC. For example, when people were testing Kaby Lake, including this very site if I'm not mistaken, if you ran a SKL and KBL CPU at the same clock the IPC was exactly the same.
     
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  17. elite.mafia

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    I still feel like I'd have a really hard time buying that when the 1600 is $80 -30 = $50 when you combo with a board. The 2200g doesn't appear to be eligible for the combo discount. Of course you'd need a graphics card as well, but its a lot more powerful CPU.
     
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    We use the 2200g a lot for office builds and its works really well. Certainly no 1600 but trying to find a current gen gpu for cheap is impossible. With an SSD it feels every bit as fast as any other system for basic office tasks.
     
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    Micro Center's got a 4GB Radeon 560 in stock for $105. Should be perfectly cromulent for a non-gaming build. (There are GT 1030s and a R7 240 for well under a hundred, but they're not really "current generation", although, again, they'd probably suffice for light office work.)
     
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    Hmm Now I can't decide to go with the 1600 for $79 or the 2600x for $139 .... What to do!?! Worth the extra 60 for 15% performance upgrade
     
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    The newest built 1600's will most likely have no issue reaching 4.0 GHz overclocked. I just built with one and a Prime X370 Pro, it overclocked at 1.15v, 3.7 Ghz and LLC4 with the stock cooler and Prime 95 never went above 69C.
     
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    Agreed. So like most things it all comes down to money. 2200g + mobo/ram/etc, or 1600 + mobo/ram/etc PLUS a GPU. If you're building office computers or a system for a mother in law, a $100 GPU is wasted. Even shitty GPUs are $50... just for desktop work? Nah.

    So yeah the 1600 is a better CPU but what is it going to be used for?

    I'm actually a little pissed that AMD changed their cheapo motherboard chipsets and removed the crappy built in Radeon 300 or whatever video was on all the cheapo AM3 boards I was building. It was perfectly fine for server/workstation/office desktop use.
     
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    They make office spec GPU's for pretty cheap, like lower end quadro workstation cards for example... sole reason most people use them is so they can drive 3 displays. They're not that expensive, maybe $30-40 last time I looked for a card with 3 or 4 display outputs.
     
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    Oh I'm quite familiar with the Super Awesomesauce Geforce 710/720/etc desktop cards. I've used many in builds. But $40+ (sometimes you get lucky and they are on sale or open box for under $40 but not the norm) just for desktop graphics that USED to be free hurts my bottom line as a system builder. Like I said I used to use those bargain AM3 boards that had GPU built in, didn't matter if the CPU didn't have one. And most of those had 2 or 3 display options. Honestly those stupid cards should be $20 max. They are worthless for anything other than excel, web surfing, and youtube.

    https://www.microcenter.com/product/460002/geforce-gt-710-low-profile-1gb-ddr3-pcie-video-card
     
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    IDK the cards I was using weren't geforces, they were either quaddro or similar from AMD and had 4 weird proprietary outputs on the back that came with converters to displayport, and they were pretty cheap and ran 4 displays no problem... honestly wish I remembered what cards they were...
     
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    Where? You bought in to it already lol? They are not going to have that shit out until 2021-22 for desktops. Read the reports on it. By then AMD will have Zen 3 out already and close to zen 4 release.
     
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    If you don't overclock or use exotic memory, first gen Ryzens should be just fine. If you like to push your memory, I think the general consensus is Zen+ has a more forgiving memory controller.
     
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    The HEDT market is weird. I usually buy new retail about 1-1.5 years into the release to save a lot of money, then if you sell the motherboard years later you can usually sell it on Ebay for almost as much as you bought it for. (look at x58, x79, x99 used mobo pricing) Processors drop significantly in value, but still hold their value quite well compared to the mainstream lines.
     
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    True, and I like buying into the HEDT platform about 2 years after release. When prices are closing out for the product at retail so it’s no more expensive than enthusiast parts, and you can then buy a very long lasting system for not much more than the current dead end upgrade enthusiast ome.

    But lately, certain processors are also strangely up in value used over new prices and that includes most anything skylake or kabylake. Makes no sense to me why a 7700k still goes for $325-$350 on eBay today or why a i3-6100 or 7100 sells for over $100. I mean compare that to these brand new AMD CPU prices and it’s crazy!!! Heck even the G pentium chips in the 1151 socket still fetch $80 bucks + on eBay. Makes no sense to me. Two years ago you could buy 7700k chips for <$200 used all day long - now they are > $300?
     
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    Mining profits are going up. :LOL:
     
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    So from all tests I have seen the 3900x trounces the 2920x by about a 20% margin. 3900x is 499, 2920x is 299 but you need to get a mobo (to be fair lets say you have to get an x570 too).

    300+250 - 30 for combo - 520 - for threadripper 2920x

    499+150-30 for combo = 620 - for ryzen 3900x combo

    Basically boils down to 100 dollar difference. Plus side on TR - more pci lanes - quad channel memory,minus side - more expensive heatsink options slower than new 3900x

    3900x- cheaper to upgrade to just CPU now, add in x570 later. Faster than 2920x by about 20% - minus - less PCI lanes. more money...

    Personally, I am going to get the 3900x now upgrade my mobo later (that and I already have a 1950x :D) .
     
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    I read that Zen 3 is completed already too.
     
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    Previous poster is correct. The 12, 13, amd 19 GPU crypto mining motherboards almost all use socket 1151 and those CPUs cannot be found new anymore so the used market has them found more valuable.
     
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    Picked up a 2950X to replace my fried 1920X. You can't beat these prices, even with Threadripper 3 on the horizon. The X399 platform is just so much nicer than the mainstream stuff.
     
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    That 2920 price is incredible. Too bad theres no microcenters anywhere close
     
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    I went from Haswell-E (5960X @ 4.5GHz) to a Threadripper 2920X and it was definitely a lateral move. I wouldn't bother after having done it. And, what's worse is my gaming performance definitely suffered from the move.
     
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    Will the Threadripper 3 require a new socket or remain TR4 you think? And assuming based on rumors it'll also be DDR5 would it naturally be a new socket then? I'm curious to know because I intended to invest in a Threadripper in the next 6 months so wondering if I should start picking mobo's now or wait.
     
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    I'm sorry, but that rumor isn't credible. It will most likely be based on Rome. That means it should remain on TR4 and be DDR4 compatible. However, I would wait for X599 or whatever it ends up being called and see what that brings to the table before buying into X399 now.
     
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    sounds like going from my 6850k to ryzen 3000 would be the smarter move. I just have this old set of 8x4 crucial 2133 that clocks to 3000 cl15 and dont want to buy anything new :)
     
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    I’ve got a 6850k overclocked to 4.3Ghz and I’ve been unable to find any validation so far that Ryzen would be a significant improvement. Maybe fourth gen might. What are you seeing that warrant the upgrade, just curious.

    IPC seems similar, and core count on the 6850k to this point in time has proven sufficient.