LulzSec Brought Down By Own Leader

[Staples]

Not surprised this guy was unemployed (all these nerds have too much time on their hands) but I am surprised to hear he was some guy who lived in housing projects. Usually it is some unemployed nerdy white middle class kid.

 

[NahBrah]

I think even the most cynical of us here can admit that these groups need to be brought down for good. They are nothing but lowlife thieving criminals behind a keyboard.

What did they steal?

And all you've done is create a class of people dependent upon the government instead of dependent upon themselves.

http://news.investors.com/article/6...nt-dependence-jumps-under-president-obama.htm

Yea must have had nothing to do with the obvious recession, gotta be Obummer paying off the dependents to vote for him.

If you have some money in the bank, a little cash in your wallet and a little change in your pocket then you are part of the 8% of the most wealthy people in the world.

Now shut up already about rich people because you are one of them when you use the same comparison of the rich to yourself as with yourself and the truly poor of this world.

Hello, false equivalence, let me introduce you to this little thing called intellectual honesty!

When I was unemployed, I actually made more money off of unemployment than I did when I went back to work.

You mind explaining this? I'm guessing this is false or you committed fraud.

Yeah. If you believe this, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The one guy? Jeremy Hammond?
What part of "Convicted credit card thief" doesn't instantly clarify the character of the people we're dealing with?

Something he did in the past is not what he was doing recently, it's what he did in the past.

 

[NahBrah]

Though, what he may gave planned are not necessarily other's plans. Broad strokes are broad.

 

[Phoenix333]

Except when they don't

Except they did.

More like mess with the Feds and you will get a job.

More like a plea deal if you're lucky.

 

[ChronoDetector]

"You play with fire and you will get burnt" is what exactly happened here. Payback is a bitch for these guys, they went through the risk of hacking and illegally obtaining private data and they got caught. Serves these fuckers right.

 

[kirbyrj]

Yea must have had nothing to do with the obvious recession, gotta be Obummer paying off the dependents to vote for him.


You mind explaining this? I'm guessing this is false or you committed fraud.

There are jobs out there. If you're unemployed for longer than 6 months, your ego is getting in the way of you being employed.

It's not that hard to explain. But I appreciate your dichotomy of either I'm lying or I'm committing fraud . Simply, I was a director at one company, got laid off, and then got a job at Walmart.

 

[Yakk]

When well they learn...

Resistance is futile

 

[kontact]

We are Borg! More iPads please.

 

[motomonkey]

I give them mad props for this. For fighting kiddie porn, for attacking dictatorships online, for taking on police departments responsible for brutality. These are all things I can support.

I just don't think that a banana republic dictator, or some douchebag thug city cop really care that much about how their webpage functions, or at least not enough for them to rethink their ways ad change for the better.

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This.

Defacing a webpage in some 3rd world shithole means nothing, Hell, I can imagine some of these Dictators saying, "We have a website?" assuming they know what the net even is.

As as long as people seek Authority because they like the power, and have the ability to Abuse it, shining a light on a few of them will have little effect. A+ for effort though. to bad it comes at the expense of making the rest of the world think of you as part of the problem.

 

[Eisenblut]

There are jobs out there. If you're unemployed for longer than 6 months, your ego is getting in the way of you being employed.

It's not that hard to explain. But I appreciate your dichotomy of either I'm lying or I'm committing fraud . Simply, I was a director at one company, got laid off, and then got a job at Walmart.

I agree. Back in 2003 I was laid off (Ticketmaster basically bought our company, lied to our faces and then dissolved us within a year) and I made about $340/week on unemployment. It was more than any crap job could offer.

 

[NahBrah]

There are jobs out there. If you're unemployed for longer than 6 months, your ego is getting in the way of you being employed.

It's not that hard to explain. But I appreciate your dichotomy of either I'm lying or I'm committing fraud . Simply, I was a director at one company, got laid off, and then got a job at Walmart.

Simplistic reductionism and general ignoring of the reality of things tends to lead to easy explanations. The problem is then are entirely intellectually bankrupt conclusions.


And, you pretending your fall from director to Walmart is a typical story is equally intellectual bankrupt. Your story is not the norm, yet you tried to pass off your situation as some sort of norm. You are an outlier in the statistics. The typical person who is unemployed is not making more on unemployment than by working, and suggesting otherwise with your out of context anecdote was absurd. You also choose to simply ignore your resume compared to the low level workers who were also laid off and applying to the position you got when you make asinine statements like "If you're unemployed for longer than 6 months, your ego is getting in the way of you being employed." You are basing that entirely on your on personal anecdote . Your projections of your own hubris onto others does does not rewrite the reality of saddening ratios of amount of people applying to jobs and the lack of jobs to fill them all. There is a reason applications per job is through the roof, and it isn't because people are being lazy. You lack perspective, I suggest you find some and try to be a more honest individual.

 

[NahBrah]

they* not "then"

 

[Deleted member 126051]

Something he did in the past is not what he was doing recently, it's what he did in the past.

Bull
shit

These aren't isolated incidents with long periods of good conduct in between.

They're part of an almost continual pattern of misconduct stretching back roughly a decade.

He's been getting arrested fairly regularly since 2003 (at least twice a year, not counting the two he spent in prison).

And this latest incident is the SAME EXACT THING he was busted for in 2005.

So don't try to make out like his past misdeeds have zero impact on his current ones.

I have the misfortune of actually having gotten to know him. So I pretty much KNOW what I'm talking about. Can you say the same or are you talking from your nether sphincter?

The guy is a walking disaster and anyone in their right mind would do their best to distance themselves from him as much as is humanly possible.

 

[Deleted member 126051]

There are jobs out there. If you're unemployed for longer than 6 months, your ego is getting in the way of you being employed.

It's not that hard to explain. But I appreciate your dichotomy of either I'm lying or I'm committing fraud . Simply, I was a director at one company, got laid off, and then got a job at Walmart.

No! Can't say "Would you like fries with that?" man!
I'm OWED a corner office and a fat check!

You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

When well they learn...

Resistance is futile

In Hammond's case? Apparently never.

He didn't just put himself back in the line of fire. He jumped out onto the range, bent over and dropped trou, apparently hoping for a matching wound to his LAST attempt.

 

[kontact]

This.

Defacing a webpage in some 3rd world shithole means nothing, Hell, I can imagine some of these Dictators saying, "We have a website?" assuming they know what the net even is.

Yea, it is about as childish and useful as throwing tea into the sea.

 

[Deleted member 126051]

Yea, it is about as childish and useful as throwing tea into the sea.

You gonna go offer to suck this guy's dick next?

How is DDOS'ing the the government of Spotsylvania because you're pissed off that you're not higher on the shitpile in the United States in any way comparable to "no taxation without representation"?

This kind of bullshit rhetoric outlines exactly how far kooks like you are from reality.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

Yea, it is about as childish and useful as throwing tea into the sea.

Except that tea was an extremely valuable luxury resource brought all the way from china/india. the dumping of it overboard signified both large financial losses to the company that shipped them and lost duty/tax income to the crown.

There really isn't much of an equivalence here.

 

[stevedave]

There are jobs out there. If you're unemployed for longer than 6 months, your ego is getting in the way of you being employed.

It's not that hard to explain. But I appreciate your dichotomy of either I'm lying or I'm committing fraud . Simply, I was a director at one company, got laid off, and then got a job at Walmart.

I'd never accept a job at Walmart as both an ego and financial decision.

2 people work as software developers as AOL. AOL lays off 90% of its staff because they are AOL and not google.

Developer 1 Settles for a lower paying job a walmart but continue's to look
Developer 2 Takes unemployment and continues to look for work

Developer 1 Only has 3 or 4 hours a day to look for a job
Developer 2 Has 11 to 12 hours a day to look for a job

Developer 1 and 2 both go on the same job interview for a development position at Microsoft and the interviewer ask about your most recent job. Developer 1 says walmart and Developer 2 says AOL.

On this alone I'd pick developer 2. There may be people who can look past that but I wouldn't be one. Your most recent job was at wall mart for 8 bucks an hour your next job is going to be at Target for 11 bucks an hour. But if your last job was at AOL for 40 bucks an hour then Maybe I'll think of hiring you at Microsoft for 45.

 

[Zarathustra[H]]

There are jobs out there. If you're unemployed for longer than 6 months, your ego is getting in the way of you being employed.

This is total bull.

There are ~13.9 million officially unemployed people in the U.S. Another ~8.5 million people are working part time and would like full time jobs. (so called under employed)


There are approximately 2 million open jobs in the U.S. looking to be filled.

Most of these are not filled either because they are in a short term interviewing process or because they are having problems finding qualified people to fill their positions.

Where I work we have an open Quality Director, and open Quality/Compliance/Complaints Manager and two open Quality Engineer positions in my department alone that we just can't find qualified people for. These positions have been open for a long time and whenever we interview people they do not have the skills we are looking for.

Let's disregard the above - however - and assume for a moment that the 13.9 million unemployed and 8.5 million underemployed people can instantly fill those 2 million vacancies.

For the purposes of easy calculation, let's also assume the under employed are - on average - half time employees, so we have a demand for 13.9 + 0.5*8.5 = 18.15 million jobs.

So of the 18.15 million jobs needed, we have 2 million jobs. if they were to be instantly filled, there would still be 16.15 million jobs needed.

We don't have a dependency issue in the U.S. That is absolute right wing election year horse shit.

We have a weak economy (caused by a burst housing bubble, in it's turn caused - in large part - by deregulation) resulting in a lack of jobs.

Sure, some people can get temporary jobs in retail to make up a buck or two to survive until they find a job in their profession, but even in good times retail can't absorb 16 million jobs, and retail isn't doing so hot in this market either, so there are fewer job opportunities there than in the past.

For many people their time is better spent honing their skills and hitting the pavement looking for jobs than spending their time overqualified for a retail position. it's not just better for them, but better for the economy as a whole as well. We don't want people stuck in jobs they are overqualified for once the economy starts picking up speed. That will be harmful long term for us all.