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Someone wake me up if a Senator asks about how Obama did basically the same thing and nobody cared. Or Sheryl Sandberg emailing with Podesta and colluding to get Hillary elected... otherwise his law firm basically already published what he planned to say.
 

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they messed up by having 1 app (key) open all doors for privacy for all related "friends" and the user.... in addition to a "key" that opens 100 doors instead of the specific door. There are many dumb folks out there that click every survey, "which celebrity are you" etc... and those are just privacy leaks. Alot of people dont care and some may be dumb.]

however there was a senator with 4-10 words per page of notes in size 96 font anyone else catch that? awesome
 

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Someone wake me up if a Senator asks about how Obama did basically the same thing and nobody cared. Or Sheryl Sandberg emailing with Podesta and colluding to get Hillary elected... otherwise his law firm basically already published what he planned to say.


Ah yes, the old days when Obama was running facebook and violating the privacy policy of 80m+ people, selling data to a FOREIGN company to use to sway US ellections. Pepperidge farm remembers...... /s

Seriously, wtf are you talking about??? None of that has any relevance in this thread. These god damn 'Wut about....' arguments are so effing stupid.
 

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The problem with Facebook and the reason why I no longer use it is it now "pushes" information instead of "pulling" information. At first I was getting a lot of information from my friends from college and high school, bands that I like, etc. Now more than half of what appears is coming from Facebook. This means Facebook is overriding what I "like" and pushing crap I never asked for. They are doing it for advertising dollars but some of it is censorship.
 

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Raise your hand if you actually think this dog and pony show will change anything?

This is political theatre for the sake of what? I know.......looking like you give a shit to the voters back home........

Most of the committee members are clueless as to what they are actually supposed to be concerned about.
 

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And there it was.. the straight up claim that the reason Trump won was because of Facebook.

Oooohhhh.. targeted ads for people in specific places.

I guess that candidates better not be allowed to run any ads or send out flyers or cards ever again. Or even campaign for that matter.
 

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I cant listen to him talk without getting annoyed. Congress might actually do something to him, if they have to listen to that for hours on end.

I do find it hilarious that selling user data has been going on for well over a decade by almost every country and organization you could name. But the second its "trump!" they freak out, and demand an investigation.
This is just a show for the peasants to say "look! we summoned and questioned him. Its all good now" If facebook stays as top dog, then fine they continue to have a source of money from their lobby. If facebook takes a nose dive then they still win because they are the hero Congress that grilled ZB in front of everyone.

The best plan is the one you where you cant loose.
 

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I got up at 6AM and ate an egg salad sandwich, 2 pints of Rocky Road ice cream and a microwave burrito so that I could stream myself passing gas through Zuckerberg's entire testimony, but after five minutes I just didn't care.

Dad wanted a ride to another town to pick up some stuff from Home Depot, and we were about 10 minutes outside of the city limits when he asked, "What the hell did you eat this morning?" And I told him, "Well, Mark Zuckerberg was testifying before congress today."


P.S. I decided to push around one of those noisy lumber carts while I was crop dusting in the Garden Center. Dad's pushing a shopping cart with a few things in it and I'm following with an empty lumber cart, and he's asking me, "What are you doing with that thing?" and I said, "Mostly trying to make people think it's you."

P.P.S. This post is like Zuckerberg's testimony. It's up to you to decide how much of it is a lie. Take the blue pill, and you can continue to believe ... whatever you want to believe.

P.P.P.S. Do NOT take the red pill. Remember what Morpheus says about the red pill.
 
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Oh snap...They just asked him if he considers Facebook an "open forum". Then they just addressed their liberal bias and shutting down conservative pages that have nothing to do with terrorist activities. In the very same breath, Zuckerberg admitted to having no knowledge of any pages being shut down related to the democratic party LMAO.

On top of all this, the data issues with Cambridge Analytica....

Get your shit together Cuckerberg. Bullshit is spewing from both ends right now.

The more I hear, the less I think this is intentional bias and more like complete ineptitude within Facebook. Right hand not talking to the left and so on. It's like one group is in charge of filtering may be biased one direction, and another group maybe biased another direction... and the whole time the entire company plays both sides and tries to look innocent.


Conservative views = terrorism
Yep. Sounds like they need to tweak that AI they are so proud of.
 
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And there it was.. the straight up claim that the reason Trump won was because of Facebook.

Oooohhhh.. targeted ads for people in specific places.

I guess that candidates better not be allowed to run any ads or send out flyers or cards ever again. Or even campaign for that matter.

I don't get it.

Advertising is not banned because you have a choice after all, right?

But when it comes to Trump, that's impossible. IT MUST BE MANIPULATION!
 

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What seems to be the most funny in this, besides Zuck getting completely decimated so far, is that Ted Cruz decided to divide people further based on political affiliation instead of focusing on what this questioning is actually about. Blumenthal completely annihilated Zuck with his questions without bringing up any kind of political influence or agenda in any way. Maybe I misunderstood what the questioning was for; as I understand it, it's supposed to be about the data outage by Cambridge Analytica, which has nothing to do with which political views anyone has. Save that for another hearing or questioning line where it's appropriate. Should they block/ban/remove pages for differing political views? IMO, absolutely not, but remove/ban individuals that provoke and instigate toxicity/racism/hatred on any "side" (we're all people who have quite a lot in common if we actually sat down to think and/or talk to each other); it doesn't take any of those items to express your opinion, and if you can't express your opinion without those things, you don't really understand what it is you believe or why.

Edit: I may be mistaken, I've heard a few other questions regarding what Facebook "polices" as far as content. If this was a general questioning session that wasn't limited to the data leakage/outage, then I don't see any issues with the questions asked, and they should be answered truthfully, if pages are being removed simply based on the political affiliation without sufficient reasoning, then FB is wrong all around.
 
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well shit man, I gotta give props to the lighting, camera quality, and more visually for that stream. It's crisp!
 
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Jesus christ he looks like a Cyborg. Didn't want to wear his hoodie today?
How do you get cyborg? Are you referring to the weird twitch he's developing with his neck? :p

With those bug eyes and ears sticking out like antlers, to me he looks more like a deer in caught in headlights.
 

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What seems to be the most funny in this, besides Zuck getting completely decimated so far, is that Ted Cruz decided to divide people further based on political affiliation instead of focusing on what this questioning is actually about. Blumenthal completely annihilated Zuck with his questions without bringing up any kind of political influence or agenda in any way. Maybe I misunderstood what the questioning was for; as I understand it, it's supposed to be about the data outage by Cambridge Analytica, which has nothing to do with which political views anyone has. Save that for another hearing or questioning line where it's appropriate. Should they block/ban/remove pages for differing political views? IMO, absolutely not, but remove/ban individuals that provoke and instigate toxicity/racism/hatred on any "side" (we're all people who have quite a lot in common if we actually sat down to think and/or talk to each other); it doesn't take any of those items to express your opinion, and if you can't express your opinion without those things, you don't really understand what it is you believe or why.

Edit: I may be mistaken, I've heard a few other questions regarding what Facebook "polices" as far as content. If this was a general questioning session that wasn't limited to the data leakage/outage, then I don't see any issues with the questions asked, and they should be answered truthfully, if pages are being removed simply based on the political affiliation without sufficient reasoning, then FB is wrong all around.

Just to clear it up, the hearing is about Facebook gathering data and that data being available to other apps and other companies to mine and then use Facebook as a platform to influence people. In the case of Cambridge Analytica it is contended that they used Facebook users information to do targeted campaign ads and may have been involved in the Russian meddling scheme.

So Facebook being asked about their bias is definitely part of the hearing. Facebook has actively said it is filtering information based either on "Fake News" or "Terrorism" yet users are getting reduced content and filtering based on "community safety". Zuckerberg refused to truly answer that question on how they are doing this, or why conservative pages are specifically being targeted and filtered, especially when the content was not fake news.
 

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But here's the thing; OBAMA IS NOT PRESIDENT. The reason why there's concern about Trump is because he won, he's the president, so he's the problem. Same reason why Nixon was a problem when he was president. Then, once he resigned what happened? He was pardoned and after that, basically forgotten. People didn't care so much anymore because he wasn't in power, he could no longer cause problems. The current administration is always going to be the one in the spotlight, and rightly so: They are the ones with the power. Once they are out of power, it is no longer such a big deal.

That aside, the idea that someone got away with something in the past means that someone how should get a pass is retarded. By that logic, nobody can ever be held accountable for anything. It is 100% valid to say "This has been a problem for a long time but it stops now, we are no longer going to allow it."

Finally the "ebil Democrats" thing rings a little hollow, given that the Republicans have controlled both houses of congress for some time now. So, if this was such a problem with Obama... why didn't they do anything? Why didn't they hold any kind of inquiry? It isn't like they were adverse to doing investigations, even ones that appeared to be highly political in nature.

Because the "media" is VERY, VERY, VERY left leaning and will cover up anything they can that is bad about the party they are part of.

Because the Democrats are the "circle the wagon" type. They will do whatever they can to protect even the absolute worst scum of the earth as long as they think that those people are on their side.

It amazes me. maybe it shouldn't, that people choose to be absolutely blind towards what is going on, and then when something comes up that is the same type of thing that was going on when the Democrats were in power, they claim it doesn't matter that it happened before. It only matters because it happened or is happening when a Republican in power.

The hypocrisy is over 9000. Seriously.. do the Democrats think that the general populace is so stupid as to not be able to think for themselves?

This reminds me of this scene from UHF.

Tell a lie long enough and loud enough and it becomes the truth?

What?

I hope it leads to this for the media and the freaks in Washington who feel the same way as Mr. R.J. Fletcher.
 

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Just to clear it up, the hearing is about Facebook gathering data and that data being available to other apps and other companies to mine and then use Facebook as a platform to influence people. In the case of Cambridge Analytica it is contended that they used Facebook users information to do targeted campaign ads and may have been involved in the Russian meddling scheme.

So Facebook being asked about their bias is definitely part of the hearing. Facebook has actively said it is filtering information based either on "Fake News" or "Terrorism" yet users are getting reduced content and filtering based on "community safety". Zuckerberg refused to truly answer that question on how they are doing this, or why conservative pages are specifically being targeted and filtered, especially when the content was not fake news.

Thanks for the explanation, makes a lot more sense to hear those lines of questioning given that info.
 

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P.P.S. This post is like Zuckerberg's testimony. It's up to you to decide how much of it is a lie. Take the blue pill, and you can continue to believe ... whatever you want to believe.

P.P.P.S. Do NOT take the red pill. Remember what Morpheus says about the red pill.

Pfft!! Everyone knows that the green pill with the red stripe is where it's at. Duh!
 
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