Lian Li PC- Q7 itx case.

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  1. officermartinez

    officermartinez [H]ard|Gawd

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    I went with this ASRock H67 board (it's got USB 3.0) and this Coolermaster modular power supply:


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    I know the PSU is completely overkill but it's received awesome feedback, it's reliable, 80 plus efficiency,it's quiet and did I mention it's modular! ..LOL. So far, I have had NOTHING but a positive experience with this setup! ..it's simply powering an Asus GT 440 (fermi) video card that is DX11, powered by the PCI-E lane and it has a single slot footprint. It's not meant for gaming or anything super intensive but it is HDCP and allows my wife to watch all of her bluray movies and all of the internet surfing she can handle. It's paired up with an LG 42" 1080p LCD monitor.
     
  2. audirs

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    hey you know what, didnt even cross my mind. i will keep that in mind next time im playing around with it. thanks!
     
  3. ZerazaX

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    I am rebuilding my HTPC and have a Antec Earthwatts 380W PSU laying around, and a standard 5.25" blu-ray drive

    While looking around at the possible cases for a mini-ITX (zacate most likely) build, I noticed that most cases that can fit a standard optical drive come with some pretty shoddy PSU's (i'd have to add more money just getting a picoPSU or something else).

    So I'm wondering what people think about using a PC-Q07 for an HTPC? It'd fit the blu-ray drive, the motherboard, my SSD, and the Antec PSU as well. I know its overkill (the PSU especially) but this is the only case that can fit all those components.
     
  4. wwischerath

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    i love my case and it would be perfect for what you are building
     
  5. officermartinez

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    I agree.. I wouldn't even go as far as saying it's overkill. I just upated my HTPC and the worst was transition times.. going from light web surfing, to listening to MP3's, to watching a bluray, back to checking my email, etc.. Those transition times were killing me.. I "upgraded" my dying AMD socket 939 HTPC to a LGA 775 Celeron.. it worked OK for the first year but then I felt it too was slow.. I just finished "upgrading" to a Core i7 860 and now I can say screw it.. That thing should last me YEARS and YEARS from now.

    My wife LOVES her Q07. She wondered why I EVER "made" her have a full size ATX case.. LOL!
     
  6. wwischerath

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    I am still in the process of building mine. Since I have found a mobo and memory I should have it finished before too much longer. All around PC with light gaming.
    My sister in laws PC is dying and I want to build her a zacate system in a Q07. (it would still be faster than her 478 socket single core HP machine)
     
  7. ZerazaX

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    Thanks for the feedback guys. This sounds like the perfect setup to get

    I'm debating between Zacate and Llano. I was so close to pulling the trigger on Zacate, but now that I've heard that Llano is shipping and will be out a lot sooner than expected, I might hold off and see how Llano does and whether it will be coming in Mini ITX flavors. The extra power in Llano isn't required, but I wouldn't mind a little extra power for slightly older/indie games
     
  8. <orangensaft

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    To all you Q07 lover, I just finished my new build so take a good look:

    Intel Core i3-2100 @ Thermalright AXP-140
    ASUS P8H61-I
    Corsair XMS3 2x2GB
    XFX RADEON HD 5670 1GB (passive)
    1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 @ Scythe Himuro
    Seasonic S12II 380W
    Lian Li PC-Q07B

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    I think I put all the space there is into good use... ;)
     
  9. wwischerath

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    I like it! How are the temps using the AXP? I am very happy to see that it clears the PCIe slot.
     
  10. <orangensaft

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    The CPU temps are actually really good, it isnt easy to get the i3 over 60°C... 55°C while playing Crysis (1).
    The GPU is a little to easy to get over 80°C. Crysis managed after only 30min.
    I should get me a fan or at least mount the I/O bracket, to keep the PSU Fan from sucking to much air from that hole (look @ PIC 6).
     
  11. wwischerath

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    Maybe just putting on the I/O cover would help. I know from personal experience on my Q07 that the flow direction is critical.
     
  12. Stardog Champion

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    I had a EA-380D in my Lian-Li PC-Q07 and I found it made airflow very difficult for the CPU. There was very little room between the blank side of the EA-380D and the CPU fan. Cable managment was also a nightmare. The cables on the EA-380D are very long for such a small case.

    It worked much better with a PSU that has a large fan (Seasonic SS-350ET) or the picoPSU.

    This is why *I* have an EA-380D lying around now :)
     
  13. Big SturL

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    Ok, what is the MAXIMUM height CPU cooler this case can take if I install a standard ATX PSU? I am thinking about using the Scythe Samurai ZZ, which is 69mm without the fan. Will it fit?
     
  14. cyberkost

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    69mm will fit nicely (not with a 25mm fan on top though)
     
  15. wwischerath

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    Lian Li quotes the clearance as ~70mm. I read one review that claimed about 80mm. I would guess that if you use a 70mm tall cooler that you would end up with about 10mm clearance.
     
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    Hey guys, I just wanted some recommendations on a SFF build i'm putting together based around the Lian Li Q07. Any feedback would be great. The parts I'm thinking of are:

    Lian Li PC-Q07B
    Intel Core i5-2405S or i5-2500K
    Thermalright AXP-140
    ASRock H67M-ITX
    G.SKILL Eco 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-24 1.35V
    Intel X-25M G2 160GB – (reused from another build)
    Corsair HX520W – (reused from another build)
    Samsung DVD Writer (reused from another build)

    I put both the i5s in because since I wanted to keep the AXP passive I was wondering if a 95W TDP might be too much for having just the PSU fan circulating air out of the case? If it is, I could just step down to the 2405S. I didn't want to go down to the i3s since they mainly have a 65W TDP as well, and Turbo and the 2 extra physical cores are worth the $70 to me.
     
  18. <orangensaft

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    You should be fine with a i5-2405S. No graphicscard?
    If you could get you a 2,5'' HDD it would be possible to mount it together with your SSD above your ODD.

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    That is the Q11, but the clearence should be the same. I could try it and let you know, if you wannt...
    Anyway... that way there would be enough space for something like a HD5670 or HD6670...
     
  19. wwischerath

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    Clearance is not the same with a Q11 vs a Q07. While many GPUs fit a Q11, very few fit a Q07. I have a Q07 and know this quite well. (and could you reduce the picture size next time-took forever to load and still only see half the picture) And with a Q07 you are limited to one 2.5 HDD and one 3.5 HDD. You can use both, but lose the GPU. Heck, you lose the GPU if you use the 3.5 HDD at all. Unless you want to mod the case and move the HDDs.

    Now, Kid-what are you using your PC for? Many of the members are using the AXP passively, I just cant remember what CPUs they were using. But knowing what you are using your PC for, and what expectations, will help with figuring out where to go. Such as-do you need/want a graphics card?
     
  20. Kid AXo'ln

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    It'll mainly be used for surfing, word processing, etc. as well as being hooked up to a 46" LCD TV to display Netflix streams. Maybe some music transcoding and video conversion here and there. I left out a graphics card because I didn't intend to use one; I thought the HD 3000 would be sufficient enough.
     
  21. wwischerath

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    In that case I wouldnt even worry about an aftermarket cooler. I ran the 2500k in my Q07 w/o graphics card with no problems. I never heard the fan running and I never saw it run over 2000rpm. If you do hear the fan, one trick I did after installing a GPU was to block the section of PSU fan right over the CPU. Kept them from fighting over the same air. I still am using the stock cooler and only under extreme usage do I hear the fan. For most of my usage the stock HD3000 graphics were just fine. But if you need silence, I would think the AXP 140 in passive would work.You will have some effort in cable routing-that thing is big!
     
  22. wwischerath

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    I was just reviewing and members using CPUs that get hotter than the i3 were passively cooling with the AXP 140, so go ahead and enjoy! One member was using the i3 and temps were under 60C.
     
  23. jamaicanpi

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    Has anyone taken a measurement of how much space is under the GPU? If there were no hard drives in place, what the best aftermarket cooler that can work in the case. I am guessing it's the Scythe Setsugen 2 with a 25mm thick fan, but could it fit deepcool's V400, which is a 63mm tall cooler?
     
  24. wwischerath

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    Between my GTX 550 fan and the floor is ~19mm It looks like the fan and cooler are about a 30-32mm. The V400 is out. At most you have 51mm. And if you want a GPU in a Q07, the hard drives are already moved. Personally, I think the problem with cooling a GPU in a Q07 is the lack of a distinct airflow pattern.
     
  25. <orangensaft

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    My Q07 just got a little update: GTX 560...

    As you may know the PCB's Palit/Gainward uses for there GTX 460's, 560's & 560 Ti's are a little shorter...
    and have the 6Pin's on the side. It's like they designed them for the Q07.

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    The GTX 560 Phantom uses 2,5 slots but there was enough clearence and since all the ports are in the first slot I only had to rasp a little.
    I mountet the I/O bracket to force the PSU into sucking more air from inside.
    The GTX 560 is clocked @ 850Mhz with 0,95V... BC2 stable ;). While playing it stays at about 75°C.
     
  26. jdw715

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    This case can mount a 2.5" drive below the 3.5"? How much space is there? I have a 12.5mm
    laptop drive will it fit?

    How long of a optical drive will fit? Is this a concern?

    Also, is this available in the US in Silver?
     
  27. cyberkost

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    You're not asking easy questions ...
    The silver one is called PC-Q07A and google products search for it returns nothing .. not sure if they're still being made.
    As for 12mm 2.5" HDD under 3.5" -- can't help with that as I gave my case to a family member ...

    Have you considered PC-Q11? It's a heir of PC-Q07, available in silver and will let you mount both of your HDDs.
     
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  28. wwischerath

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    I had no problem installing an ODD in mine, but have heard that the Blu-ray versions are longer and can be a problem. As for the 12.5 mm HDD, I believe it will fit. If you are going to use a 3.5 on top of it, you can forget using a GPU. Since you havent stated a particular 3.5 HDD, can I assume you arent using one? If not then the 2.5 will fit just fine.

    As for the colors, you are going to have to search a little bit. The only easy one to find is the Black Q07. Try searching various vendors.
     
  29. huguberhart

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    So I put TXT POV GTX 560 Ti LOL. I can still use front USB but the temperatures when playing Battlefield 3 are ~80 C, that with support of 3 60 mm fans @ 3000 RPM 16 CFM. Terrible. I also put the EX-533 in the front but decided I will install fan controller for those 3 fans. Knob with bay converter. Does anyone know of good 60 mm that have around 20 CFM or more?
    AM still thinking about putting 1U PSU in the back. With the place below 2 92 or 80 or 1 120 for push.
     
  30. Jen

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    my lian li pc-q7 i am making a tray to fit above the optical drive to allow use of three laptop drives which will fit when this is done. then i also have added a 120 mm fan at bottom of case to allow more force air in to case for this 560 video card which does get warm when i like to game.

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  31. officermartinez

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    Pictures!!!
     
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    I ordered this case yesterday, it should be arriving middle to end of next week... Looking forward to this one !!
     
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    Really like the look of this case. Anyone has issues fitting a modular PSU in one and do you point the fan out of the case on the PSU?
     
  34. Jen

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    i suggest useing a sfx powersupply instead , more room for everything and cables are close to right length.

    Jen
     
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    I did not have issues ... even with 5 SATA devices (no overclock or discrete video though):
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  36. officermartinez

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    Well my wife's GT440 is going out (and not very gracefully). So, I am thinking about a tiny "mod" on her PC-Q07. I am going to TRY to remove the factory Lian Li HDD bracket. I'm working on a more simple HDD mounting solution and I am toying with the idea of adding a low profile 120mm fan at the bottom of the case. This go-round, I purchased her a Sparkle single slot GTS 450. That should be plenty of video card for her needs.. http://www.amazon.com/Sparkle-Compu...9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1328385326&sr=1-9

    When I get her computer on the workbench, I'll be sure to take pictures as I go (for those of us who still own this case). Who know's, it may not even work.. Keeping my fingers crossed.
     
  37. wwischerath

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    removal of the HDD bracket is easy. I used a couple of aluminum angle pieces and double sided tape to mount the HDDs on the interior front. I am using 2.5 HDDs, but same technique shgould work for a single 3.5 HDD. I am not sure if yo will have the space to mount the fan between the GPU and the bottom of the case. I am using a GTX 550 and even a 10mm thick fan would be against the GPU. I just opened a hole for the GPU to pull air and installed taller feet. Whole thing runs very cool.
     
  38. officermartinez

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    Do you have any pictures for reference?
     
  39. officermartinez

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    Well I have started back in on my wifes PC-Q07. I took several pictures of the "conversion" but I've reached a stopping point for the evening. I made a funny mistake and ordered the Galaxy GTS 450 SINGLE SLOT video card. When I test mounted it, I found out that is did NOT fit in this case. It is too long. Ugh! So, I sent it back for a refund and ordered an MSI GTS 450 card that is just under 6" long. That will DEFINITELY fit! It should arrive sometime tomorrow (I paid for overnight shipping). Since this is probably a dying thread for us PC-Q07 owners, I will just upload the pictures directly to this thread in case others are interested in doing the same type of mod..


    First things first.. I had a left over stock Intel cooler from my i7 2600K that I will be using on her i3 2100. I chopped several inches out of the wire, debadged the Intel sticker and sleeved it..

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    Next, I used some old MX-2 thermal paste that I had laying around and mounted it up to her ASRock m-ITX board..

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    I started in on cutting the actual 120mm hole at the bottom of the case. I used a Dremel tool router for my circular cut. It does a really decent job cutting holes..

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    Got it cut and added an old Lian Li stock 120mm aluminum fan shroud that I had laying around. I was going to have it done in black but meh... it's at the bottom of her case and not visible..

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    Finally, last thing I did today was strip off those horrible factory Lian Li 2mm case feet. I purchased some 1/2" uber vibration absorbent case feet. Big improvement! That should be fine for allowing some fresh air to be drawn in by her new MSI video card fan.

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