Lian-Li PC-Q25

Discussion in 'Small Form Factor Systems' started by Cliff Couser, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. ajira99

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    The only benchmarks I've found for that chipset are here: http://www.servethehome.com/Server-detail/intel-atom-c2750-8-core-avoton-rangeley-benchmarks-fast-power/ and a lot of people at the usual websites are waiting for reviews of the C2550D4I. As for encoding/transcoding, you'll see a lot of e-preening in the forums from self-proclaimed "experts" who down-vote the onboard features in this form factor. I guess it really comes down to which camp a person falls into: use a NAS for centralized storage or as a full-featured media server. Personally, I don't have room for an ATX case and a commercial NAS would be a reliable, but pricey (and somewhat limited) solution.

    I've been looking at using one of the Addonics storage towers to house my optical drives for a media ripping machine: http://www.addonics.com/category/storage_tower.php.
     
  2. AMv8(1day)

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    So how does that work exactly? You have to have a port multiplier coming off the back of that box and somehow routing into your workstation case? It is all run across a USB connection? Just trying to figure out how this would look. Not big on the idea of having an extra box tethered via a cable, or multiple cables. Or the complicated and probably bottlenecked process of running this connection across another bus.
     
  3. AMv8(1day)

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    If I could fit my whole build into an enclosure similar to that though... That would be pretty cool!
     
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  5. Deadjasper

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    Just built my dream HTPC/Media Server using this case. So small a case with room for 8 internal HD's proved irresistible.

    1. GIGABYTE GA-Z87N-WIFI R

    2. Intel G3220

    3. IBM ServeRaid M1015

    4. EVGA 500 B 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified

    5. 7 4TB HD's, 4 WD Enterprise drives, 1 Hitachi and 2 Seagates plue a 240gig Crucial M500 for Windows 7.

    28TB is overkill I know but at least I have room to grow. :D
     
  6. cZm

    cZm n00b

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    Hi
    I am just biuling my new new gaming pc but i need some help on PSU and CPU cooler.

    Please could you tell me which cooler and which psu I should look at.

    GPU is AMD R9 280 and CPU is i5-4670K

    All on ASUS IMPACT Mobo
     
  7. Deadjasper

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    Any standard ATX PSU will work. As for the CPU cooler, if the OEM won't fit, look for a low profile. Just make sure it's rated to handle the 4670k.
     
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    Looks awersome dude

    Can I just ask how you installed the 120cm fans on the rad/case for the cooler. As far as I can see the case spec says 140cm front fan?
     
  10. RideTheNun

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    Yeah, I find this build awesome too, I'd like to know if it's hard to remove the HDD bracket, and if he had to mod anything to put this aio cooler up there. Someone?
     
  11. NakedRunner96

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    Also.. any idea what ram is in this build?
     
  12. the337

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    how do you go about removing the hdd rack?
     
  13. cZm

    cZm n00b

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    Anyone know how to get to the screws in the front to remove the front fan
     
  14. raymondo

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    You mean how to get the fan out of the front? Just slide it to the side and you're good to go. See manual for reference:
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    Source: http://www.lian-li.com/en/dt_portfolio/pc-q25/
     
  15. anobody

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    Hi,

    I've just got a PC-Q25 case, there are two fans in the case both with 3 pin for power and speed, will the motherboard control the fan speed based on temperature sense? It will be great if it can as I don't want the fans are running all the time even in cooler temperature condition unnecessary.

    Another issue is my motherboard SRock FM2A88X-ITX+ has only got one 4 pins fan connector, can I use Y cable (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812718001) to connect both fans?

    Thank you.

    jupiter
     
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  16. 1o57

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    I just did a side by side of my Q25 and my newly arrived M1. I found that my hacks to the internals of the Q25 basically allowed for my layout similar to the M1.

    I love both cases, but I won't have to mod my M1 like I did my Q25.
     
  17. -devious-

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    [​IMG]

    Once I removed the HDD cage this case is so roomy compared to my previous PC-Q11 build! Lots of room for the water cooler, which was insanely tight to cram into the Q11.
    The only downside to this build is that there are only 2 fan headers on my motherboard (both need to be used for the cpu cooler), so I can't plug in the top case fan.
    As you can see in the pic, I completely removed it for better ventilation.
    Temps are manageable but not amazing.

    Specs:

    CASE: PC-Q25a
    MB: Gigabyte GA-H67N-USB3-B3
    CPU: Intel i7-2600K
    GPU: EVGA GTX 780 SC w/ ACX cooler
    RAM: 2 x 8GB (16GB) Corsair XMS3
    PSU: Corsair RM650
    COOLING: Corsair H50
    HDD: WD 500GB 7200 RPM
    SDD: OCZ Vertex 128GB

    If you have any questions about it please let me know.
     
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  18. cmge

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    i just got this case and planning this server build with some spare parts:

    i3-3240
    ASUS P8H77-I
    Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1333
    Corsair CX430M

    im planning on putting the max 10hdds in.

    will my CX430M be enough to power up my system or should i go for the CX500M?
     
  19. okigan

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    Hi All, I really like this case, BUT I need Micro ATX.

    Has anybody found one similar to Lian-Li PC-Q25 but for Micro ATX?


    So far options are: PC-v354 and pc-v358
     
  20. -devious-

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    How many hdd or ssd? There is a website where you can put components in and it tells you what the ideal PSU wattage should be. Don't know the link offhand but should be easy to google.
     
  21. raymondo

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    @cmge: an i3 3240 consumes only 55w max., RAM and mainboard let's say 10-50w combined. A typical HDD only needs 6-9W, so you'd have 60-90w. So you should be good with your CX430M even if you put in an entry level videocard.
     
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    I like the Scythe Shuriken or Noctua NH-L9i. They are both quite quiet for my taste and fit.
    The NH-L12 with 66mm height will be a really tight fit but the Scythe Shurken Rev B (64mm height) fits the PC-Q11 just fine. As both cases are the same width, the NH-L12 should fit the Q25.
     
  24. SRTie4k

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    I went through a couple with my PC-Q03B, and have found that the Scythe Shuriken Rev B is definitely the best one you can find for its size. The problem is trying to find one right now is nearly impossible in the states. I wasn't very happy with the Noctua NH-L9a, it was only slightly better than the stock cooler but still got pretty hot.

    An alternative might be the Thermalright AXP-100, although it's pretty expensive and not easy to find.
     
  25. moadip

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    http://vimeo.com/43560652 i found this for the previous generation, since the size is the same, i ordered one for my Z87,
    Ill keep you posted on how it goes.
     
  26. moadip

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    Guys,

    i can confirm that everything is working fine, and fits perfectly with the Asus Z87i-pro an the scythe shuriken. There is around 3mm free space between the heatpipies and the extra VRM Board, so more then enough.
     
  27. -devious-

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    made a few modest improvements to the build. mainly just set up the radiator in push pull with some SP120s and finally slotted the case fan exhaust at the top in. Temps are looking much better now, especially for the video card at load.

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  28. -devious-

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    More pics:

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    You can see the front push/pull radiator set up is held together by zip-ties and supported by rubber vibration grommets. Not the cleanest, but I worked with what I had and it's very silent. I need to get an air filter in front of that otherwise the radiator will likely get clogged with dust over the months.

    Temps on idle are pretty good. ran Furmark for the 15 minute burn-in test at 1080p and got the gpu up to 88 degrees C with the case closed. Unfortunately my mobo doesn't work with speedfan to control any of the fans. Will probably upgrade mobo and CPU next year as they are 3 years old now!
     
  29. raymondo

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    Wow the silver Q25 surely looks nice and like the NCASE's slightly bigger brother. Never noticed that with my dust gathering black Q25b.

    What CPU do you have and which mobo? Hope you're you happy with the ACX cooler as most people seem to prefer the reference cooler.
     
  30. reb00tin

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    The 2 builds on this page got it all backwards. You're sucking heat from the CPU and putting it back into the case, heating up the mobo and everything else. You want to blow the heat OUT of the case not IN.
     
  31. raymondo

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    Well yes, the PSU and the fan in the top exhale the hot air.
     
  32. -devious-

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    I never understood the popularity of black metal cases. They are just all around less attractive to me - more noticeable finger prints, dust, not to mention that the metal is not naturally black. But to each their own.

    Mobo is Gigabyte GA-H67N-USB3-B3 and cpu is i7-2600K.

    As far as the ACX cooler goes, I'm pretty happy with it. I left as much space below the GPU so that it can get enough air flow at the bottom vents. I used to have a GTX 570 with reference cooler and it ran very hot in this case. Because I have a water cooled CPU, the heat spill into the case from the ACX doesn't really impact much else, and with the top case fan, it does a good job exhausting the heat. But I can see if you are working with an M1 you might prefer the ref cooler since things are a bit tighter.
     
  33. reb00tin

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    You're just heating up the PSU, VRMs and everything else. The top fan is just creating a lot of noise and turbulence, the hot air is gonna come out anyways (due to positive pressure from the intake fans). Just reverse the fans.
     
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    Yes, I know it isn't ideal, but the front grills on the side of the case are not designed to exhaust and it's the only location where you can intake on the case, and where you can put a radiator if you want one. I still think my CPU and setup runs cooler with this config than it would without water cooling because a decent non water CPU cooler takes up a huge chunk of interior space and blocks airflow to the top fan exhaust.
     
  35. -devious-

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    But my CPU isn't producing most of the heat, it's my GPU. I think the last thing I want is to blow hot GPU air at my radiator. My top fan is actually quite effective as an exhaust. I think this is a more effective configuration given the case design. There is simply no other logical way I can think of to intake and exhaust as effectively.
     
  36. reb00tin

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    I'm exhausting out the back in both Q11 and Q03. See my builds here: http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=66864
     
  37. factorial

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    It looks like the PC-Q25 has enough room for the ASRock E3C224D4I-14S, but I'm not sure.

    The full dimensions of the E3C224D4I-14S are 8.4" x 6.7'' (21.3 cm x 17 cm), so if there's an extra 4.3cm of clearance from the bottom of a normal Mini ITX mobo to the bottom of the case, then it should fit.

    Would someone who has this case measure this? Because having a Xeon E3, 32GB ECC RAM, SAS and a 10GbE NIC in the PCIe slot would just be awesome.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  38. raymondo

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    There should be plenty of space. I took some pictures and there are about 5,5cm of space.
    I used a normal ITX mainboard (AsRock E-350M1) for these pics.
     
  39. -devious-

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    minor and probably last update for a while:

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    added a 140mm to 120mm fan converter so that the Corsair H50 radiator and 120mm fans are properly mounted without massive air gaps. Also sandwiched in a really slim fan filter (Silverstone FF143). The fan size converter definitely increased airflow by sealing up all the gaps but the filter reduced it to the point where it is about as good as it was before I made the changes. Except now I don't have to worry about dust clogging up the rad and having to take the whole thing apart every few months.
     
  40. TheSandman2236

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    I know this is a long shot guys, (reviving an old thread) --

    The backplane has standard molex + sata power -- which ones do I need to use to make sure the drives are power properly? Do I need to use both? I've got 1 SSD and 2 3.5 inch 3TB drives.