elvn
Supreme [H]ardness
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yeah sounds like they phoned the HDR in instead of making it a shining example of PC HDR gaming.
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Nothing listed in the patch notesThere was a Cyberpunk patch today and I think HDR might be fixed....it's tough to tell with the Nvidia driver raising black globally with HDR on but I THINK it might look better...
I know, but they also never acknowledged that it was broken. I think of most patch notes like motherboard BIOS release notes that will say "Improved performance" and nothing else. Who knows what might be in there.
scRGB, although I don't notice a ton of difference between the two.You guys using HDR PQ or scRGB?
It isn't just raised blacks. The colorspace is crushed to the point that similar colors are rendered as the same color and make harsh gradients. It makes the game look like a low bandwidth Netflix stream in dark areas.
I have not noticed that at all. I’ll keep a sharp eye out for it tonight, but if it’s like you describe I can’t imagine I wouldn’t have noticed it already.
Ditto. The most striking difference between the two is my MSI AB overlay isn’t scorching bright with scRGB.scRGB, although I don't notice a ton of difference between the two.
The place I could see it the best was in the VR tutorial....it's cycled out of my autosave at this point. I'll keep an eye out for it and try to get pictures (unless it actually is fixed in the 1.04 patch today).i 100% am not seeing this in dark areas. I even tested with GSYNC on/off to see if that had an effect, but no difference. I see the black levels raise when switching to HDR but that’s the only change. I can’t get ‘inky’ blacks in this game regardless of settings. Perhaps it’s an ‘ignorance is bliss’ sort of thing![]()
Yeah I pointed this out the other day after noticing I could see the difference between screen and bezel on my black background desktop when HDR was on.Hopefully this isn't old news in this thread but the latest Nvidia driver breaks HDR somehow. I saw the raised black thing that some of you mentioned, although it was nowhere near as bad as an IPS. My desktop background is black and I noticed I could see the border when I normally can't, and it disappeared again in SDR mode. Rolled back to last week's driver and it's fixed, and CP2077 runs fine framerate wise. Haven't actually played it yet to see if I notice a difference in dark areas but working HDR on the desktop is a decent first step.
So after some combination of disabling/reenabling Gsync, turning some displays on/off, installing Windows updates, and rebooting....My blacks are back to black with HDR on. No idea...Hopefully this isn't old news in this thread but the latest Nvidia driver breaks HDR somehow. I saw the raised black thing that some of you mentioned, although it was nowhere near as bad as an IPS. My desktop background is black and I noticed I could see the border when I normally can't, and it disappeared again in SDR mode. Rolled back to last week's driver and it's fixed, and CP2077 runs fine framerate wise. Haven't actually played it yet to see if I notice a difference in dark areas but working HDR on the desktop is a decent first step.
For the record I have had this happen a few times in previous drivers as well, even in SDR content. The fix seems to be to go to 4K 60 Hz and back. There are still some bugs with the LG C9/CX because even my PS5 will sometimes output a washed out picture requiring me to turn HDR off and back on to fix. It might be a PS5 problem too of course but it certainly happens.Hopefully this isn't old news in this thread but the latest Nvidia driver breaks HDR somehow. I saw the raised black thing that some of you mentioned, although it was nowhere near as bad as an IPS. My desktop background is black and I noticed I could see the border when I normally can't, and it disappeared again in SDR mode. Rolled back to last week's driver and it's fixed, and CP2077 runs fine framerate wise. Haven't actually played it yet to see if I notice a difference in dark areas but working HDR on the desktop is a decent first step.
Yes you can. Displaycal even has a calibration profile for LG OLEDs you can use. Calman can be used (but it's really expensive) to store a hardware calibration. Personally I'd just use displaycal to adjust RGB and be done with it. I also have an i1display pro but I've been too lazy to do it yet. Screen looks great already with some minor tweaks.A little while back I bought a X-Rite i1 calibration tool for a previous monitor. Can this also be used for the LG CX48? Wasn’t sure after all the initial non calibration tool tweaks if it was still worth it.
Great, good to know! I may break it out just to see. And totally agree, screen is perfect with minor adjustments to OLED light, ck trady, brightness etc.Yes you can. Displaycal even has a calibration profile for LG OLEDs you can use. Calman can be used (but it's really expensive) to store a hardware calibration. Personally I'd just use displaycal to adjust RGB and be done with it. I also have an i1display pro but I've been too lazy to do it yet. Screen looks great already with some minor tweaks.
I can try it if you want.Has anyone gotten an RX 6000 series GPU for the LG CX? Curious if VRR and HDMI 2.1 features work well on it.
Key ones would be that it works at 4K 120 Hz 10-bit color with HDR and that VRR works either using the Freesync option in the TV menu or without it. If you can, try running a game at settings (e.g high raytracing or render res) that put it around the framerate of the lower range of VRR, 40 fps and see if you can see any flicker if it transitions from under 40 to above 40 and back.So I played COD BOCW on the RX6800XT with the CX48. Seems fine. What data would you guys want me to use?
Ya I also have mail spotify etc at the top, but I dont want that stuff wearing on the panel so if I am not actively using it I just minimize it. And so I end up not using the top 20-30% of the panel a lot of the time because I will neck pain. So solution is to lower it or get further away from it (or it getting further away from me).I own both too and the CRG9 is now my gf's monitor while I use the CX. The way I use it is to put secondary windows up top - things I don't look at all the time like say email or time tracking apps etc. The apps.I use constantly live in the lower portion of the display which makes it more comfortable.
Your situation is a bit tough because to get enough viewing distance you do want to wall mount. For a sit/stand desk setup you would want a floor stand that is motorized so the display can be raised as you raise your desk. Those are pretty expensive. I just use a floor stand with mine and it is much better than the previous monitor arm setup I had. Less wobble, more distance.
I really liked the CRG9 a lot for work but as a gaming display it was a bit too wide. I liked running many games better at 3840x1440 custom resolution. 3840x1600 is great on the OLED.
You should see the HDR logo pop up in the top right when you switch to an HDR application. Also you can click the scroll wheel on the remote, point to the input (“PC HDMI 1” on mine) on the bottom left, click it, and a pop up will come up showing your resolution and it’ll say HDR if you’re in HDR.So how do i know a game has HDR on?
On my living room tv it says HDR when a console game switches into it.
I have my 3080 hooked up now to my LG CX 48, put i don't see HDR pop up as I load a game.
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Most games require you to turn on HDR in the Windows display settings, and then the TV will always be receiving an HDR signal. It's up to your eyes to tell the difference toggling HDR on/off inside games after that.So how do i know a game has HDR on?
On my living room tv it says HDR when a console game switches into it.
I have my 3080 hooked up now to my LG CX 48, put i don't see HDR pop up as I load a game.
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Ya that is what i was looking for did not realize you had to turn it on in Windows.Most games require you to turn on HDR in the Windows display settings, and then the TV will always be receiving an HDR signal. It's up to your eyes to tell the difference toggling HDR on/off inside games after that.
Can confirm vrr works for me. I forgot to take a picture last night though.Key ones would be that it works at 4K 120 Hz 10-bit color with HDR and that VRR works either using the Freesync option in the TV menu or without it. If you can, try running a game at settings (e.g high raytracing or render res) that put it around the framerate of the lower range of VRR, 40 fps and see if you can see any flicker if it transitions from under 40 to above 40 and back.
You can also use the diagnostics behind hitting the green button on the remote many times until a screen pops up in a corner to see what it sees as output and whether VRR works or not.
I haven't seen a single ounce of burn-in using my CX 48 normally 8h a day. I run what I can in dark mode but occasionally may have something like a bright Excel open and bright websites are pretty normal. It's been fine. Ask me again in 2-3 years.
I'm up to 1793 hours power on time on mine for work and play. 0 burn-in.
My CX55 is currently at 3363 hours, and no burn-in so far.
Of note:
I keep my display at around 0-50 OLED light (except for HDR movies, which I watch at 100).
Lots of static content from work laptop (no screensaver)
For my desktop, I have a 5 minute screensaver (Mystify) with 1 hour off-time.
I vary my content between mostly youtube videos, youtube tv, games, and online forums.
I turn off the display if I'm walking away for a long time.
I run the screen refresher every couple of weeks as long as I can remember.
I have a 2 year Best Buy warranty, so if any permanent burn-in (burn-out) shows up, the panel will be repaired ASAP.
Remember if you are running Nvidia 460.89 or 460.79 HDR is broken. When it activates black levels are massively elevated and black becomes grey.
If you use the a proper setting of say RGB / Full in the Nvidia CP and set the TV to Black Level High as it should be... you will see washed out greys for black and this will lead you to think your TV setting is incorrect and set it to Black Level Low instead. This will "look" proper on a black desktop... but you're actually massively crushing the blacks in HDR because it was never the correct setting in the first place.
I'm mentioning this because there is already a HUGE amount of confusion on setting these options to begin with and the broken drivers make it FAR MORE CONFUSING than it should be.
Earlier drivers are working correctly. So before you wonder why your CX settings aren't working the way people say they should, make sure you aren't using either of these drivers. I'm currently using 457.51 and HDR works. (as well as fixing several other issues such as power on flickering and corruption)
I am. At 4K. Performance is brutal out of the box. Think I started out with something like 10 FPS. Turned off Film Grain and Chromatic Aberration immediately and got to around 20 FPS. I'm reading some tweak guides on other settings that affect performance and can get to just shy of 30 FPS by lowering a bunch of them from Ultra or High to Medium. I'll continue to read up and maybe find some guides or videos from other people using a 1080Ti but I might have to shelf this game for now. I'm not going to play it at 26 FPS along with severely compromised visuals. I want to experience the game as it was intended and trying to run a visually stunning game like this at 4K on a two-gen old card isn't going to be that, I'm fairly sure of it.Anyone using a 1080Ti?
Do you play at 4k? or 1440p? How is performance?
Looking to build a new PC within the next 6 months once I can snag a 3090 or maybe a 3080Ti (if annoucned) but for now I'm stuck with a 1080Ti.