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Isn't that like 30fps even on a 3090 lol (Maxed RT)
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Isn't that like 30fps even on a 3090 lol (Maxed RT)
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We shall see lol
I hope there will be no HUD option otherwise RIP our OLEDs
nvm, just found: "The most fun one I think will be the Hardcore setting where we turn off the UI ... And that will be a real challenge for a lot of players," Cyberpunk 2077 UI coordinator Alvin Liu told
If you have an RGB strip install into the TV's USB port, it can sorta tells you. If the lights stay on after you turn off the TV, that means it's running the pixel refresher.
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I hope there will be no HUD option otherwise RIP our OLEDs
nvm, just found: "The most fun one I think will be the Hardcore setting where we turn off the UI ... And that will be a real challenge for a lot of players," Cyberpunk 2077 UI coordinator Alvin Liu told
I found out how to remove the life bar from Jedi: fallen order by editing the cfg file. Looked it up on a few forums. Another reason PC > console.
I won't be getting cyberpunk until after I get the 3090 model I want, which isn't even released yet let alone post scalper timeframes. So at this rate I hope within Q1 of 2021.
Ya i was looking into a 3080 EVGA 4TW but probably will hold off for a 3090, sucks really just trying to upgrade from my 2080ti for the 2.1.
Anyone running a Sonos soundbar or something similar? Going to wall mount the TV this weekend so want to make space under for it.
Can you just run the optical in to the TV and it will work from there?
Anyone running a Sonos soundbar or something similar? Going to wall mount the TV this weekend so want to make space under for it.
Can you just run the optical in to the TV and it will work from there?
I’ve had some issues, but not as commonly as that YouTuber. Here’s the worst example I’ve seen. In the first episode of “For All Mankind” on Apple TV+, at 35:19, there is this scene where it clips the black level. It’s some kind of Dolby Vision decoding issue, because even if I set brightness to 100 (which raises the black value to a gray), the contour of the dark shape is identical. In the previous scene, at 34:12, there is bad flickering. It happens in both the LG AppleTV+ app and with the AppleTV 4K device. (I believe this episode is free if anyone want to try it). There are no issues when viewing the scenes on an iPhone 12.
In one animated show I was watching, in SDR, in one scene there was a dark gray patch that flickered even when the show was paused. I believe adjusting the OLED light level to be brighter fixed that.
He mentions a grid on white. I had something like that once, but it went away when I restarted the TV and I’ve never seen it since.
All Dolby Vision content has raised blacks, so I have to set the OLED light level to 49 to get perfectly black blacks.
What reso and settings are you using?
I heard HDR is disappointing, pseudo-HDR, with settings leading to either brightened blacks or poor color treatment
Have you tried HDR with CP and the CX?
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Seems to be pretty close to 60 FPS average. Runs decent and looks amazing.
CDPR did such a good job on Cyberpunk 2077 graphics that it really doesn't "need" RT. Honestly, on a 3080, setting RT off, DLSS to "balanced", and everything else to Max @ 4K makes this game a treat, both visually and in terms of performance.
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I notice raised blacks in both HDR and SDR in it. I also have no idea what that "tone map midpoint" setting should be... I also don't know which of the HDR modes is "correct". I'm doing scRGB.
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Not with maxed RT on unless you use DLSS performance mode and IMO that mode doesn't look good at all. I'm playing on a 2080 Ti with no RT and DLSS in quality mode and game looks amazing while delivering mostly 60fps.
There are 40+ 3090s in stock at various Central Computer stores right now in the SF Bay Area. The bad news is you have to go to the store to get one. They also have more than 40 Dark Hero motherboards in stock.
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whats everyone running Cyberpunk at settings and resolution wise?
3090 here on a CX - was playing at 4k maxed settings (No Psycho Settings) with DLSS on quality - 40-60fps. G-Sync and DLSS saving the day. Been debating dropping down to 1440P with DLSS, though I kinda feel I shouldn't have to with a 3090.
3090 here on a CX - was playing at 4k maxed settings (No Psycho Settings) with DLSS on quality - 40-60fps. G-Sync and DLSS saving the day. Been debating dropping down to 1440P with DLSS, though I kinda feel I shouldn't have to with a 3090.
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Also a 3090, 4k everything maxed but motion blur off, film grain off (this seems to make DLSS work better too), RT ultra, still kicking around which DLSS mode to use but will probably settle on balanced.
Many sugestions that you should also disable chromatic aberration.
Anyone had idea how we should set that HDR calibration in game ? or we need wwait for HDTV test video again
Also you can disable all hud elements, except a figure in bottom right corner which indicate if you are standing or crouching, and also speed bar while driving any idea how to hide this one also ?
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Hmm. So I have been running the CX 48" now for about 2 weeks. And this is simply the best picture I have ever seen from a computer. Period! However. I am switching betwen my 49" Ultra wide samsung C49CR90 and if I could combine those two I would. The curve helps a lot with the edges and corners. And to be honest. The "lack" of height is so nice for the neck and overall window placement/memory. On the OLED I felt I had to move the the windows around all the time and adjust the height of them. I am using PowerToys FancyZones. But still. I know I can adjust the height to be the same as the much lower super ultra wide and just not use the full height of the OLED, but I feel that is waisting something. So if LG made a 3840x1600 curved OLED, that would be the ultimate for me. So to keep the OLED and start to use it on a real basis (I have to return one of the monitors in about a week) I have to find a solution to somehow lower the OLED or angle it differently. What are you guys strategies to help best use it. I would really enjoy it more if I could get it further away from me. And I know the Ergotron HX can help with that, but it only seem to take away about 5cm (2"), and that is not a lot. Are there other options. I am using a height adjustable desk, so wall mounting would be my last resort as it would take away my possiblity to use the table.
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I was measuring some wallpapers centered on screen and saw that if you were able to play a demanding game letterboxed all around at 2560x1600 resolution, you'd still have around a 32.5" diagonal viewable, something like 17.5" tall by 27.5" wide. Stil a very considerably sized screen at near distances and with a lot more frame per second. 3840x1600 would be a huge ultrawide too, and could still save you 10fps.
I agree. I'd have to keep DLSS on quality (non quality is like dymanic downscaling rez which = MUD) .. so playing leterboxed on what would still be a very large screen would probably be the only way I'd consider using raytracing due to the frame rate hit. I'm used to playing witcher 3 and gta V and other games at 100fps average with sli (at 1440p), and I'm aiming to do the same at 4k wherever possible once I get a 3090 in Q1. Personally I wouldn't want to play 60fps on a 120hz monitor where I could avoid it. Even with a letterboxed rez this is a big monitor (and the letterboxing is "off" on oled).
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I’ve only played with the HDR settings a bit, but I can tell you the images they show on the HDR settings screen do not represent what the actual game looks like. The images are much brighter compared to the game. I suppose you already know this if you’ve played the game at all, but figured this is useful info for anyone starting fresh today.Many sugestions that you should also disable chromatic aberration.
Anyone had idea how we should set that HDR calibration in game ? or we need wwait for HDTV test video again
Also you can disable all hud elements, except a figure in bottom right corner which indicate if you are standing or crouching, and also speed bar while driving any idea how to hide this one also ?
From what I read this game is best played in good old SDR, since HDR implementation is dogshit and devs won't explain how it should be calibrated. I'm busy with other games for now anyway so will play it months from now, should be a much more enjoyable experience with a few patches.
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I am pretty sure Windows HDR needs to be on to use it in Cyberpunk, is that accurate? Also, does that mean the display is set to HDR all the time?
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Correct, and it's that way for most other games as well.
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Sighhh THIS is exactly why I didn't give a rat's ass about HDR for a very long time. AAA game like CP2077 has a half ass HDR implementation, something that was very common among many HDR games over the years. What a shame as the PS5's HDR games literally got me to change my stance on HDR.
The one thing I like is the Paper White option, so you can set the brightness of the UI separately from the game graphics. I'd like to see that in more places, such as the freakin TV OSD and subtitle settings (the apps I've seen have very crude control over subtitle color and brightness). I play a racing game that has a bright white timer, so I have to disable the UI. It burned in the plasma I replaced with the CX.
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Exacerbating this is the latest Nvidia drivers have a bug that is causing raised black levels globally when HDR is enabled. You can see it real clearly with a black background. HDR in Windows disabled, you can't differentiate between screen and bezel. HDR in Windows enabled....well you'll see what I mean.
I own both too and the CRG9 is now my gf's monitor while I use the CX. The way I use it is to put secondary windows up top - things I don't look at all the time like say email or time tracking apps etc. The apps.I use constantly live in the lower portion of the display which makes it more comfortable.
Your situation is a bit tough because to get enough viewing distance you do want to wall mount. For a sit/stand desk setup you would want a floor stand that is motorized so the display can be raised as you raise your desk. Those are pretty expensive. I just use a floor stand with mine and it is much better than the previous monitor arm setup I had. Less wobble, more distance.
I really liked the CRG9 a lot for work but as a gaming display it was a bit too wide. I liked running many games better at 3840x1440 custom resolution. 3840x1600 is great on the OLED.
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Jedi: fallen order HDR looks great. I found out how to remove the hud with a cfg edit too. I'll be prioritizing HDR and/or DLSS 2.0 titles with my purchases.
Also, there are alot of great uhd HDR movies I watch while doing other stuff on my other monitors. Some great releases.
Coming from sli I've developed a patient gamer attitude. Everything is early adopter at release (including gpus/drivers and displays/firmware). I get way better performance and quality by playing games later. Also in some cases, availability of quality of life mods and DLCs.
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I'm saying that throughout the years of HDR, even major AAA games had really bad implementations to the point where you were better off playing in SDR which is why I have always brushed off HDR as something that's not a must have for me. I have had an HDR capable OLED since 2016 with the B6 and the HDR experience for me has always been more miss than hit. I was hoping by now in 2020 that every AAA game developer would nail down HDR in their games after seeing how good Sony's 1st party PS5 games are, but I guess not.
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CP2077 makes it very easy to test different settings since they apply instantly and do not require restarting the game. Have you tried just flipping back and forth between HDR and SDR in any given scene/place in the city? Vincent Teoh is awesome and he’s a smart guy, and I know he’s technically correct on this one - SDR is more ‘accurate’ (for lack of a better word) than HDR. But damn if I don’t prefer HDR in all instances. I’ll personally deal with the raised black levels for the sake of enjoying a subjectively better image (to my eyes).
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It isn't just raised blacks. The colorspace is crushed to the point that similar colors are rendered as the same color and make harsh gradients. It makes the game look like a low bandwidth Netflix stream in dark areas.
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I have not noticed that at all. I’ll keep a sharp eye out for it tonight, but if it’s like you describe I can’t imagine I wouldn’t have noticed it already.
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Vincent already explained it in his video. Go to 4:55 if you want to see why raising the black floor also ruins the colors.
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Yep understood. Again, if you haven’t already, flip back and forth in several areas of the game. I haven’t found an instance yet where I preferred the SDR image. Just my personal preference. Of course I’d ultimately prefer they just fixed the HDR implementation in the game so it’s correct.
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I did. The game looks ok during day time, probably even better than SDR I would say. But during night time or just dark areas in general, the game kinda has this "milky" layer over it almost like I'm playing on some low contrast IPS panel and not an OLED.
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A friend of mine has this complaint as well on his CX, says he can’t get true blacks in HDR. I will play with it more but I have not had this issue or at least not noticed it. Even flipping back and forth in dark areas. Will try again this evening.
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HDR should always look better than SDR hands down. It shouldn't look better to some people and then have SDR be more preferred to others, especially not when coming from what is now the biggest game company in Europe.