LG 38GL950G - 37.5" 3840x1600/G-Sync/175Hz

shadow2761

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Problem is, this is probably the end game monitor, even considering the CX48 OLED. 💞
I would consider the LG an end game monitor if it had FALD, and atleast HDR1000 but kept all its current response and speed!

That would make it near impossible to beat!
 

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I would consider the LG an end game monitor if it had FALD, and atleast HDR1000 but kept all its current response and speed!

That would make it near impossible to beat!
If it had FALD, it would be a VA panel which would make it not an end game monitor.

Also, I don't notice the vignetting.

This monitor is great on a 1080Ti, but it will be astonishingly good with the next gen Nvidia cards.

No regrats.
 

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Well. OLED is a mess on an all white screen due to banding.
Near black uniformity is still an issue on OLED as well, though they've improved a lot from the C6 I have I've still seen many pictures of uniformity issues on the newer panels. So yeah, no perfect panel exists, but as with the vignetting here I find it is a very minor fault.
 

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I must be the only person that hates the very idea of FALD... I'd rather have lower global contrast than halos everywhere, at least until FALD 'zones' are equal to at least 1/4 panel resolution.
 

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We're seriously at least 10 years off from standards and near universal properly implemented HDR in PC games. It's really a moot point currently.
 

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Well, I just tried the BestBuy site and, sure enough, they will honor the price match with the LG site sale of $200 off despite it not being "in stock" at the dealers with the low price. I was mostly checking for the price match and was helpless to the power of (perceived) savings and ordered one for delivery Wed. the 18th. Now I will need to sell my Dell Alienware 34" but will likely keep my MSI 32" (not to mention a few other older monitors scattered around). Way too much money spent but I am weak and the weakness is very strong.
 

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Well, I just tried the BestBuy site and, sure enough, they will honor the price match with the LG site sale of $200 off despite it not being "in stock" at the dealers with the low price. I was mostly checking for the price match and was helpless to the power of (perceived) savings and ordered one for delivery Wed. the 18th. Now I will need to sell my Dell Alienware 34" but will likely keep my MSI 32" (not to mention a few other older monitors scattered around). Way too much money spent but I am weak and the weakness is very strong.
It's worth it.
 

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Played DCS again today, goddamn it looks good.
Had the screen well over a month now, still love it. The money, which made me wince even with a lifetime of PC’s paid for with Nvidia shares, is a distant memory.

Still don’t have my stand though :cry:
 
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I'm in the camp that I want one of these but probably want to wait for the hdr600 version. I'm not positive I want to stick to that since the price drop makes it more interesting.
  • Not a fan of "the fan". Fans can die. They do make some noise. And it adds bulk to the panel.
  • Thunderbolt is useful to me as one device that will come on and off the monitor would be a surface book 2 which handily runs with no other connection than TB3 off my Dell 3818
    • and TB is only coming in the panel that comes later
  • While I won't hold my breath, it might have been useful if at least LG has managed to put HDMI 2.1 in this - something they could do if they weren't using the Nvidia control board
  • HDR 600 vs HDR 400 is pretty much the difference between "ok" and "barely worthy". Neither is going to move you like OLED, but 600 is definitely better and at this price point I feel like 600 makes the price a bit more palatable
  • As with the fan comment above, if you look at the 38WN95 page here you'll see that the top down view shows a MUCH slimmer profile with no Nvidia gsync control module https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38wn95c-w-ultrawide-monitor#

All that said, I have been tempted. But TB3 is something I use very regularly on the 38 I have now. That 38 just got taken over by the family who also like it (doh!) So I need another and this new model is much better.

I think the upcoming panel will be better for me, but yes, I will get one of these versions.
 

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Not even close. For pure gaming the 48CX will probably destroy this thing. Black blacks, no vignetting bullshit, higher resolution. I really see no downsides for gaming.
Higher res does not really matter, I came from 4K @ 43" to this LG 38", and the higher ppi on the LG can put the 4K 43" to shame. The LG feels like a 5K monitor compared to the lower ppi 4K 43" I came from.
 

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Well, I was just sitting here, doing my job, connected to the HDMI input and with my office so quiet, I did hear the fan spin up. The weird thing is, there is only text based stuff up on both the DP (home) and HDMI (work) inputs. My room is maybe 76F - so I'm not sure why the fan would kick in, but there it is.

If it never gets any louder, I think I can live with it, but is there even a way to blow the dust out or anything?

This is the first non positive emotion I've had about the monitor.
 

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I'm in the camp that I want one of these but probably want to wait for the hdr600 version. I'm not positive I want to stick to that since the price drop makes it more interesting.
  • Not a fan of "the fan". Fans can die. They do make some noise. And it adds bulk to the panel.
  • Thunderbolt is useful to me as one device that will come on and off the monitor would be a surface book 2 which handily runs with no other connection than TB3 off my Dell 3818
    • and TB is only coming in the panel that comes later
  • While I won't hold my breath, it might have been useful if at least LG has managed to put HDMI 2.1 in this - something they could do if they weren't using the Nvidia control board
  • HDR 600 vs HDR 400 is pretty much the difference between "ok" and "barely worthy". Neither is going to move you like OLED, but 600 is definitely better and at this price point I feel like 600 makes the price a bit more palatable
  • As with the fan comment above, if you look at the 38WN95 page here you'll see that the top down view shows a MUCH slimmer profile with no Nvidia gsync control module https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38wn95c-w-ultrawide-monitor#

All that said, I have been tempted. But TB3 is something I use very regularly on the 38 I have now. That 38 just got taken over by the family who also like it (doh!) So I need another and this new model is much better.

I think the upcoming panel will be better for me, but yes, I will get one of these versions.
Thunderbolt would be useful for me too, being able to easily hook up my work Macbook Pro without adapters and also charge it.

Another feature on the Freesync models I like is the picture by picture mode. It's useful for working with two computers. It is actually one of the things that I am sad that the LG CX OLED won't have as it would have the display size and desktop space to do it well. Would probably have to do some sort of remote desktop setup to get anything like that.

HDMI 2.1 seems to be pushed to 2021 across the board with LG OLEDs being some of the few TVs to implement it.

HDR600 won't be any better without a local dimming solution. It will be interesting to see if the Freesync model has one and how barebones it is. Anything would be an improvement over HDR400 with no local dimming tho.
 

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Can’t get G-Sync on any thunderbolts screens sadly. I had the same frustration.

I wish everyone would stop being savages and move all monitors to thunderbolt tbh. It’s annoying having to keep caldigits around depending on people’s monitor and machine choices.

I’d be very happy if the next gen of cards started coming with displayport 2 over thunderbolt connectors, even if we just do it like we did when started moving from DVI and just have a single ‘new’ port. It’s relevant to this because it still makes me a bit spazzy that I can’t use the colour depth and refresh rate because of shitty bandwidth.

I’ll file it under my idle dreams. It’ll happen, not least because usb4 kinda merges it all anyway, but it’s taking too long and I’m impatient damn it.
 
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Thundertbolt is actually a terrible cable for high bandwidth uses due to severe cable length restrictions. Only way to get past that is with expensive fiber optic cables.
 

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Thundertbolt is actually a terrible cable for high bandwidth uses due to severe cable length restrictions. Only way to get past that is with expensive fiber optic cables.
Yeah I hit that one pretty much every day. Took me ages (well 20 minutes) to work that out on the docking stations the first time round. If it wasn't both thunderbolt 3 and active, then the speed downgrade dropped it below what the resolution the monitor needed. Cue "thunderbolt 3" labels all round the office. I also believe you still can't get more than 2m with them.

It'll be the same frustration with Displayport 2 being twice the bandwidth of Thunderbolt and USB4, but those should at least mean mean that you can get 40gbit cables a lot cheaper. Virtuallink is in the same pile of frustrations. Currently though, the active tb3 cables are worth the price just for the whole single cable and charge thang. Whole situation is ridiculous really, but I suspect higher bandwidth is probably going to require these type of 'hacks' for a while. Attenuation being the bitch that it is. Not quite the same R&D budget as there is in phone companies and telco's for this stuff.

At home I have both a caldigit TS3+ for my laptop and a 2 Port KVM that connects that and my PC. All so it can be workable for a high bandwidth G-Sync monitor. Hate it. Plus, per original point, still not enough bandwidth to drive it at 175ghz 444.
 

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Ya DP 2.0 is going to be sweet but any real usage I think will require a optic cable.
 

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Ya DP 2.0 is going to be sweet but any real usage I think will require a optic cable.
That sounds right to me. I no longer get the static/EMI dropouts since I got the fibre optics cable. I've asked other people if they get this and it sounds like humidity may be a factor as well.
 

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I'm in agreement that HDR600 would be better than HDR400 but its really only going from crap to barely okay IMO. I'm not really up on DP 2.0. We're still waiting for GPUs with HDMI 2.1 so I can only imagine how long before we see DP 2.0 ports and cables to arrive in products.
 
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I don't think B&H ever got any stock in. Their page has literally said "coming soon" since August. You may be waiting a while...
B&H have had them in stock several times, they just sold out fast. I originally had it preordered, then cancelled my preorder because I wasn't sure I wanted to spend the $1970 estimate on the preorder. Then later decided to buy it when B&H had them in stock end of December for $1800, was free 1 day shipping to northern Virginia area too. Many folks on the Ulrawidemasterrace reddit got theirs from B&H as well.

Been loving mine for almost 2 months now. Never hear the fan at all either above my rooms ambient noise level. Runs great on my EVGA RTX 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra Hybrid card though can't wait to get a 3080Ti so the higher end graphics games can run 100+ FPS at max graphics. It's a same DLSS isn't supported in anything so you can't really use ray tracing without a huge performance hit on this monitor.

On a side note is anyone having issues with the LG Ultragear software that controls the lighting saying you don't have the USB connected even though you do? I have the USB cable that came with the monitor hooked up and I can even stick a thumb drive in the back of the monitor and use it, but this software constantly says I'm not hooked up to USB and won't check firmware or let me adjust the lighting. The Onscreen software lets me adjust brightness/contrast and use the screen split stuff also but doesn't have a firmware checking option like he manual states.
 
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It's a shame DLSS isn't supported in anything so you can't really use ray tracing without a huge performance hit on this monitor.
This should be fixed in future games that use DLSS 2.0. Currently the only game using it is Wolfenstein Youngblood but it should work with arbitrary resolutions (rather than a fixed set like in previous DLSS iterations) and give results that look as good as the native resolution.
 

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Stand arrived, couple of pictures for before and after.

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after

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All up, pretty happy aside from having to put it in off centre for it to be right distance (it’s the heavier duty stand andhas one less articulation point. Before anyone asks, it’s not quite high enough for portrait sadly :D

The main purpose was to lift it a couple of inches as I have a long torso, but I’ve set it at the right distance now too. Great ergonomics now and stand by my view of this size being just about the best in market at the momentS


(As an aside the desk is a bit cramped and speakers relegated to living room as my house is storm damaged and so I need to have my pc on my desk for a bit)
 

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The only reason I was "ok" with HDR600 is that for the amount of support HDR has so far, I didn't feel chasing a higher standard was really going to be of use for a few years yet. And by then monitors will have improved.

USB C cable length ability is longer if your underlying DP connection is lower. I have longer cables but the SB2 only does DP 1.2 so it does no visible harm to the signal. Just something to note when I see that some people have longer cables and no problem. Often the person with problems is driving 1.4 and no problem person is on 1.2. So really the issue is that DP 1.4 has limits until you go optical. While we all may want DP 2.0, I suspect that we will have even more "forum problems" as people will find that signal is even more sensitive to attenuation than 1.4. But 2.0 will allow us to have 40" 5120x2160 (essentially the widescreen equivalent of a 31.5 aka 32" 4K monitor). While it will be harder to drive, 2 generations of GPU ought to help and since 32's are so popular I'd bet you see alot of takeup.

Anyway as far as this 38 (and future) is concerned I have a curiosity question. The HDR600 panel model is going to get USB C (with the limits of length associated with the underlying DP 1.4 channel) as well as local dimming by way of edge driven sections (the weakest of the local methods but also perhaps the least susceptible to halos and other FALD driving issues). Do people think it's better to go with Gsync+HDR400 and take the more limited connections and that "fan" or do you think the HDR600, no fan, more connections is the better choice? I know opinions will vary but I'm curious anyway.
 

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Anyway as far as this 38 (and future) is concerned I have a curiosity question. The HDR600 panel model is going to get USB C (with the limits of length associated with the underlying DP 1.4 channel) as well as local dimming by way of edge driven sections (the weakest of the local methods but also perhaps the least susceptible to halos and other FALD driving issues). Do people think it's better to go with Gsync+HDR400 and take the more limited connections and that "fan" or do you think the HDR600, no fan, more connections is the better choice? I know opinions will vary but I'm curious anyway.

If you want the absolute best GAMING performance, between the two, the existing model will have the edge. It may not be noticeable for everyone, but the G-Sync module will be superior in terms of the sync range it covers and will likely do better at eliminating overshoot. For casual gamers though, the cheaper 38WN95C-W will likely be the better choice... but keep in mind that there is no release date on this yet, and I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't available until late Q4 or even Q1 2021.
 

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Anyway as far as this 38 (and future) is concerned I have a curiosity question. The HDR600 panel model is going to get USB C (with the limits of length associated with the underlying DP 1.4 channel) as well as local dimming by way of edge driven sections (the weakest of the local methods but also perhaps the least susceptible to halos and other FALD driving issues). Do people think it's better to go with Gsync+HDR400 and take the more limited connections and that "fan" or do you think the HDR600, no fan, more connections is the better choice? I know opinions will vary but I'm curious anyway.
For me at least the extra connections for easily hooking up my work Macbook Pro and running PbP mode for my working from home rig would be nice. HDR600 with reasonable amount of local dimming zones (most likely has just 8-10 vertical columns, 16 zone grid would be nice) would take the HDR support from rubbish to usable. No, it would not be OLED level or anything but at least something you can use on a game by game basis if you want.

I've got G-Sync and Freesync 2 monitors here and to be honest the difference isn't massive. While G-Sync is certainly better, Freesync 2 is going to be fine for most. By the time the cheaper monitors are released, the 38GL950G might have come down in price enough that it's a similar situation to the LG 34GL950 Freesync vs G-Sync models where the price difference is totally negligible.
 
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