LG 38GL950G - 37.5" 3840x1600/G-Sync/175Hz

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Interesting, ya I am thinking this OEM cable may be picking up some EMI from something.
I had to replace the OEM cable on an Acer Predator monitor for something similar.

Stupid, but it was cheaper than RMA shipping or otherwise, and it worked.
 

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Is there a good extended warranty to get on something like this? On 3 $600 monitors, I feel like I can let it ride because if one dies, I still have 2 and I can buy a replacement if warranty doesn't cover it.

With this screen, all my monitor eggs are in one basket (so to speak) and if it goes down, I have a screen problem and if it's not covered, I have a $2000 money problem as well.

Square Trade? Asurion?

Anything note worthy as a good deal or to stay away from?
 

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Is there a good extended warranty to get on something like this? On 3 $600 monitors, I feel like I can let it ride because if one dies, I still have 2 and I can buy a replacement if warranty doesn't cover it.

With this screen, all my monitor eggs are in one basket (so to speak) and if it goes down, I have a screen problem and if it's not covered, I have a $2000 money problem as well.

Square Trade? Asurion?

Anything note worthy as a good deal or to stay away from?
you can get extended warranty from lg, for me the cost is like $300 for extra 2 years, will get it before first year expires.
 

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"So who is this monitor for? I'd say someone who has a really beefy PC, who doesn't play or care too much about HDR games and who likes wide-screen/curved immersion."


Well that would be me but I'm holding off upgrading my 2560x1080p until the 3080Ti (or whatever they name it) comes out. Of course the new 43" could be out by then. I'm thinking that won't happen though until Novemberish. I'm skeptical about new monitor release times.
 

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Is there a good extended warranty to get on something like this? On 3 $600 monitors, I feel like I can let it ride because if one dies, I still have 2 and I can buy a replacement if warranty doesn't cover it.

With this screen, all my monitor eggs are in one basket (so to speak) and if it goes down, I have a screen problem and if it's not covered, I have a $2000 money problem as well.

Square Trade? Asurion?

Anything note worthy as a good deal or to stay away from?
I just just registered mine on LGs website. At the conclusion it let me buy two more years extended warranty for $74.
 

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I think the chief problem with this monitor is LG's competition: itself. For $1000 less you can get the 34GK950F/G (F is better btw) which is basically the same with less pixels.

3840x1600 is nice but jesus more than double the price of 3440x1440 and it came out over a year later? Goddamn monitor market! Someone come in and shit all over it please...
 

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I think the chief problem with this monitor is LG's competition: itself. For $1000 less you can get the 34GK950F/G (F is better btw) which is basically the same with less pixels.

3840x1600 is nice but jesus more than double the price of 3440x1440 and it came out over a year later? Goddamn monitor market! Someone come in and shit all over it please...
You can buy 3440x1440 UW monitors all day - 144Hz w/o Gsync, 120Hz w/Gsync

I've used one - it's nice, but they only offer 1/3rd more screen space vs a 27" and they cost twice the price so it's not like these disproportional price increases don't exist already, we're just used to them.

A 34" UW doesn't offer me enough to replace 3x 27" monitors in terms of work space. The 38" class does - more vertical and the width of two 1080P monitors.

The cost of incremental monitor improvements isn't linear - it's more logarithmic or geometric or whatever - but once you realize that, it makes more sense.
 

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You can buy 3440x1440 UW monitors all day - 144Hz w/o Gsync, 120Hz w/Gsync

I've used one - it's nice, but they only offer 1/3rd more screen space vs a 27" and they cost twice the price so it's not like these disproportional price increases don't exist already, we're just used to them.

A 34" UW doesn't offer me enough to replace 3x 27" monitors in terms of work space. The 38" class does - more vertical and the width of two 1080P monitors.

The cost of incremental monitor improvements isn't linear - it's more logarithmic or geometric or whatever - but once you realize that, it makes more sense.
But up to twice the cost of the 60 Hz 38" model? At least here in Europe. That's a bit much IMO especially when it doesn't come with even all of the features of the 60 Hz model like PbP mode and wide variety of inputs. Or even with things like ULMB that used to be extra features that made the G-Sync tax more acceptable. They can't get the Freesync models out soon enough as I feel those will be far better value for money.
 

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I think the chief problem with this monitor is LG's competition: itself. For $1000 less you can get the 34GK950F/G (F is better btw) which is basically the same with less pixels.

3840x1600 is nice but jesus more than double the price of 3440x1440 and it came out over a year later? Goddamn monitor market! Someone come in and shit all over it please...
The 38GL950G is in a completely different league than the 34GK950 series, or any UW 34" display. You'd be surprised how much of a difference that extra 3.5 inches makes (that's what she said), along with 1.2 million more pixels. And on top of it add higher refresh and much faster pixels. Those 34" 3440x1440 monitors feel just like a 27" 1440p monitor with wings tacked on (which it is) and I was never impressed with them.

Back when I tested the original 3840x1600 37.5" LG years ago that ran at 75 Hz I knew there was something special about this size/aspect/resolution.

I think once all of us bleeding-edgers blow our $1,800 load, it will settle around $1,500 and be a much better value.
 
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The 38GL950G is in a completely different league than the 34GK950 series, or any UW 34" display. You'd be surprised how much of a difference that extra 3.5 inches makes (that's what she said), along with 1.2 million more pixels. And on top of it add higher refresh and much faster pixels. Those 34" 3440x1440 monitors feel just like a 27" 1440p monitor with wings tacked on (which it is) and I was never impressed with them.

Back when I tested the original 3840x1600 37.5" LG years ago that ran at 75 Hz I knew there was something special about this size/aspect/resolution.

I think once all of us bleeding-edgers blow our $1,800 load, it will settle around $1,500 and be a much better value.
You used to run a triple headed rig, when did you give it up and do you ever regret it? I've been running it for 8 years and, well, it's hard to let it go :D
 

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You used to run a triple headed rig, when did you give it up and do you ever regret it? I've been running it for 8 years and, well, it's hard to let it go :D
For me the hardcore days of 3-5 display Eyefinity/Surround setups with 4-Way SLI/Crossfire are over. Multiple displays IMO were more of a priority in years past when there was no such thing as high resolution fast refresh display. You were basically forced to use multiple individual displays to create it and needed serious horsepower to do so.

Now with Multi-GPU becoming a fading memory and bezel'less beautiful curved relatively high resolution displays on the market that can be run with a single high-end GPU, for me as I get older it's a no-brainer. On my crazy setups I'd spend more time building them as a hobby and trying to get everything to work than actually plying games. ;)
 

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For me the hardcore days of 3-5 display Eyefinity/Surround setups with 4-Way SLI/Crossfire are over. Multiple displays IMO were more of a priority in years past when there was no such thing as high resolution fast refresh display. You were basically forced to use multiple individual displays to create it and needed serious horsepower to do so.

Now with Multi-GPU becoming a fading memory and bezel'less beautiful curved relatively high resolution displays on the market that can be run with a single high-end GPU, for me as I get older it's a no-brainer. On my crazy setups I'd spend more time building them as a hobby and trying to get everything to work than actually plying games. ;)
That's what I've been thinking, but there are some games where the extremely wide FOV really adds to the immersion.

Can you easily run this at custom resolution 3840x1440 or even x1200 for a wider FOV and maybe more fill rate - and without vertical stretching?
 

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38 inches is a big difference over 34. I use a 34 at the office (34WK95U) and I’m always happy to be home to my screen again even with lower res. You can see various comparisons and it’s quite marked.

What I’d really like is something the height of a 32” but with the extra width of 21:9 (god it bugs me calling it that, as it’s nothing close). Let’s be more accurate, an anomorphic, UW 6K (6880x2880), 43” with rec 2020 and 1600+ nit, thats perfect for me. I suspect I’ll be waiting a while but it’s on the edge of what they can do now, graphics cards are nowhere near though.

y’all freaked me out with the warranty, one good thing we get here in return for our insane pricing is a 3 year warranty at least. I’ll have moved on by then
 

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I just tested both, works perfect 1:1.
Thanks - that's really helpful, at least I can run reasonable wider modes for racing games - I think I'd be fine with the loss of a little vertical - in any case, it's nice to know it's an option.

It's in my Amazon cart - as soon as my Tax return drops (literally any day), I'm pulling the trigger. My main game is Apex Legends and if I can get 70-80fps in 7680x1440 on a 1080Ti, I'm sure I can manage playable fps on this beast until the 3080Ti drops.
 

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Yeah people really underestimate how much of a difference a few inches make.

There's an enormous difference between a 27" monitor and a 31.5" monitor even though it's "only" 4". It's because people don't really factor in that monitors are the diagonal distance of the two opposite sides/corners. 27" 16:9 monitors are tiny. They're the height of like 22" 4:3 monitors. They're nothing.

http://www.displaywars.com/27-inch-16x9-vs-22-inch-4x3
 

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I wonder if Simon would mention the vignetting problem.
Mentions the reports, doesn't have it on his sample, just one corner that has drop off.

I will say though,obviously they always calibrate to pro settings so is probably fair bit dimmer than most people have their screen at, which would stop it being so obvious. For me, at the same brightness I do have it but as I covered elsewhere, it doesn't bother me for reasons covered elsewhere in the thread.

I won't share too much else to respect the need to monetise, but this jumped out, "The fastest IPS panel we've measured to date " - 3.8ms GTG at 160hz. Gets to 2.7 with the fastest mode but as has been covered, that's unusable.

Also, adaptive sync on displayport is supported (I didn't know that), so Freesync works. Not that I can imagine many would pay the G-Sync tax and use AMD cards.

Overall they say it's excellent and the best IPS Gaming panel they've tested.

If you're on the fence maybe sign up to patreon and throw 'em a few bucks to read it in advance. $5 against $1800 is pretty good and as always they're a lot more detailed, and informed than the "I GOT THIS FREE AND ITS AMAZING!!!11111oneoneone" crowd
 

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Pretty sure he'd cover that under the uniformity section of the review.
Pretty sure that a lot of people won't even notice it because they don't look for such things because no one expects horrific problems that fundamental with 2 grand monitors.
 

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Pretty sure that a lot of people won't even notice it because they don't look for such things because no one expects horrific problems that fundamental with 2 grand monitors.
or alternatively, it’s not that bad / noticeable
 

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Pretty sure that a lot of people won't even notice it because they don't look for such things because no one expects horrific problems that fundamental with 2 grand monitors.
The perfect is the enemy of the good.

I'm 100% sold and plan to order one in the next week.
 

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the thing i'd like to know is how much worse would my FPS be in for example COD:MW with this res on a 1080ti, when i get around 100-120 on a 3440x1440 (not maxed out details ofc), how much worse would it get with +1.2mil pixels? down by 10? 20? 50? anyone with the screen and 1080ti here? :)

waiting for the next gen from nvidia..... :(
 

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Well damn - tax return just dropped, but Amazon is saying a week to deliver this thing :(

Best Buy is saying 2/14 and B&H seems to be OOS.
For this kind of coin, I was hoping for near instant gratification....

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Ok I am in a bit of a deilemma.

My local stores have this monitor in-stock and ready for shipping and I can purchase it now. But they also listed the PG43UQ and it will be arriving soon, I don't know if I should wait 3 weeks for that monitor or get this LG rite now?

The thing is, I want fast response because I do alot of PUBG gaming. The fact that the LG is HDR400 vs the PG43UQ HDR1000 might not matter because the latter has only 8 dimming zones anyway, no fald and not alot of dimming zones, so I am unsure how good HDR1000 is on a monitor without local dimming. I know it is pretty good on my LG E6 Oled.

And for that aspect I was going to play SP HDR games on the LG CX when it comes out and PUBG on this LG 38GL950 if I get it now.

Just wondering if anyone has any opinions on weather I should get the LG 38gl950g for its blistering fast response so I can enjoy PUBG with a bit more speed, or wait for the PG43UQ for better contrast and HDR1000?

I already have the XG438Q and althought it has slow black transitions and the black blur is noticable, I did not mind it and overall thought it is an excellent monitor, especially the contrast. Having said that, the LG has a low contrast ratio in comparison, which is the only weakness I really see compared to my current XG438Q.
 

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Ok I am in a bit of a deilemma.

My local stores have this monitor in-stock and ready for shipping and I can purchase it now.
Which store?

Also, the Asus is basically a TV, doesn't look like a desktop class device to me...

I guess I have to order this beast - my wife is going to flip, but I promised to sell my PG279s if I keep it. Still - y'all know what I'm talking about...

It looks like I can get it faster from Beachcamera or Walmart(Beachcamera) - anyone recommend them or recommend avoiding them? I've bought some monitor arms from them before - they seemed fine...

Edit: Read a few Reddit accounts of people buying high dollar TVs from BC and having issues. Didn't sound fun. Amazon it is.
 
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Which store?

Also, the Asus is basically a TV, doesn't look like a desktop class device to me...
I am in Australia, so local Australian store have them online. Plenty available.

I have the XG438Q and did not think of it as a TV, I really like this monitor but just want something with a bit more speed n smoothness for PUBG like the 38GL950G.

But I also want to keep as much IQ as possible with the speed, hence why I don't go for 240Hz TN panels.
 

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What I found interesting about the TFTCentral review is that they measured approximately half the amount of overshoot of the TechPowerUp video review linked earlier. Makes this monitor look even better!

Good review overall, awesome g2G response times... still want ULMB though. Wonder if they'll add strobing to the Freesync version.
 

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Wonder if they'll add strobing to the Freesync version.
I doubt it. Seems to be largely the same feature set and then there is the "business" version with different looks and probably a different OSD with PbP mode etc.

It's a real shame that so little effort is put into strobing when even TVs start to have actually decent BFI systems. I feel like the desktop display industry does the bare minimum all the time and somehow can't even reuse what they built in previous iterations.
 

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What I found interesting about the TFTCentral review is that they measured approximately half the amount of overshoot of the TechPowerUp video review linked earlier. Makes this monitor look even better!

Good review overall, awesome g2G response times... still want ULMB though. Wonder if they'll add strobing to the Freesync version.
I used Lightboost on my VG248QEs back in the day and it was interesting, but I didn't love it - it seems to be tied in to some features of NV-3D but I'm not sure.

I would like to know if this beast can do 3D?

I have the 2nd Gen Nvidia 3D kit - have not used it in years, but it's fun to play with. The Original Burnout Paradise was light weight enough to run at 7680x1440 in 3D and maintain the frame rate.

Seems like any Gsync display that can do 120Hz should do 3D, but I don't know....
 

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I doubt it. Seems to be largely the same feature set and then there is the "business" version with different looks and probably a different OSD with PbP mode etc.

It's a real shame that so little effort is put into strobing when even TVs start to have actually decent BFI systems. I feel like the desktop display industry does the bare minimum all the time and somehow can't even reuse what they built in previous iterations.
I am hoping it turns into the 34GK950F vs 34GK950G situation where the freesync version has strobing but g-sync does not. It happens sometimes but I'm not holding my breath either :)
 

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Anyways, I was holding out for the PG43UQ but couldn't resist much longer and pulled the trigger on the LG today. Should be here sometime next week.

I may still get the PG43UQ and sell the LG if that is better.
 

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Seems like they dropped the price a bit, B&H now showing $1599 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1488942-REG/lg_38gl950g_b_38_ultragear_nano_ips.html/

It's showing on LG's site now as well so likely other retailers will update soon https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38GL950G-B-gaming-monitor
Oh damn, I have the worst timing in the world. Mine is to be delivered from Amazon tomorrow (Monday 2/10) for $1799

Does anyone have any idea what I can do? Amazon hasn't lowered the price and I hear they no longer have a 7 day price guarantee but that sometimes people can get it on big items like TVs...
 
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